Jimmy McD Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 IF we know that we have a problem with an area of the pitch would it not be an idea to try and protect it from the elements i.e. cover over it ..The money the club has lost over postponed games recently must be staggering even going back to the selic new year game last season.I dont hold out much hope that Tuesdays game will go ahead.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I thought that pitch covers were to prevent against freezing? If using covers to protect against heavy rain, the water still needs to go somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The problem isn't the water landing on the pitch, it's how it drains. The near-side wing of the city-end is essentially an under-cover sink beneath the ground. It's the accumulation of water, not a sudden onslaught of rain, that water-logs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabbath Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 seen it on another comment but its still the best solution.......Summer Football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Simply covering the pitch in tarpaulin won't really solve the problem. The water would merely sit on top and would spill on to the pitch anyway when the covers were removed. There's also the additional danger of the water freezing, resulting in the pitch covers being impossible to move. Now that really would be embarrassing. You would need a tent-like marquee structure covering the whole playing surface. Similar to what they have at Wimbledon for the tennis. Only ours would need to be a hell of a lot bigger. Then there's the issue of how to erect something like this, it would probably take a team of guys to come in every week to put it up and take it down. Additionally, there's every chance that it could simply blow away in high winds, which we've definitely had recently. Then there's the issue of water running underneath that and on to the pitch anyway. We would need to put additional measures in to stop this and to stop water running down the bing on to the pitch as well. All in all, you are talking about a 6 figure sum to get this up and running and to maintain it year on year. I don't see a way around it to be honest. I used to be dead against, but I am now firmly in favour of summer football as the way forward. The only problem I see with that is, how would the transition be managed? You would have to stop a season half way through to make the transition from summer to winter football. Edited February 1, 2016 by ian_mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 "The only problem I see with that is, how would the transition be managed? You would have to stop a season half way through to make the transition from summer to winter football. " Not a huge problem, play each other twice in a shortened season and don't play the cups. Biggest issue would whether it would be fair to have promotion or relegation in a "half" season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Don't play the cups? How do you think the Sponsors of said cups would feel about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 1, 2016 Members Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Schedule a winter break for the whole month of January and extend the season. Any games postponed pre January, can be played, weather permitting, during the break. Clubs to have the option of playing any scheduled forthcoming midweek games on a Saturday during this period also. Also as this is during the transfer window, it could cut down the unsettling of players at their present Clubs during this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Don't play the cups? How do you think the Sponsors of said cups would feel about that? It was only a thought for the "half" season as I doubt they could squeeze in 3 cup competitions. Cups would resume effectively 6 months later. The only thing about the traditional end of season Scottish Cup final is would they want to play in late November? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 It was only a thought for the "half" season as I doubt they could squeeze in 3 cup competitions. Cups would resume effectively 6 months later. The only thing about the traditional end of season Scottish Cup final is would they want to play in late November? Ps I'm not pro or anti summer football, just made a suggestion about how they could make the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I don't see a way around it to be honest. I used to be dead against, but I am now firmly in favour of summer football as the way forward. I'm having similar resignation to the above, albeit replace 'summer football' with 'an artificial pitch' Indeed it could be good timing for this with the Warriors seemingly having outgrown Scotstoun - a pitch like at Killie would allow us to groundshare with them again, helping the cost of install and giving us ongoing revenue, while giving them increased capacity for big games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 seen it on another comment but its still the best solution.......Summer Football Short memory of our last summer when it's possible games could still have got called off. More to the point playing football during a wet summer would knacker the pitch at a time when it's traditionally been reseeded and being allowed to get into good condition. I fully realise the state the pitch is in just now but unless you guarantee benign conditions throughout the period of the summer the ground is in use you would be little if no better off. I agree with Will to a point. Well nearly entirely. I just feel that a 16 team league would take the pressure of getting re-scheduled matches done and dusted before this split thingy. To that extent the season wouldn't need to be extended to any great degree. The league cup sections would be completed by late summer with no real likelihood of postponements. btw I don't care one iota for any argument from the clubs with plastic pitches when they inevitably argue they can play their fixtures during the shut down period. In fact any incentive short of full summer football that negates the benefit of such pitches would be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Can we not just have a bigger league, one game home & away and play the cups midweek like Spain? Easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Meant to say this tho' I did mention it some time back. Went to an U20s match at Firhill a couple of months ago. It had rained incessantly that day and I was really surprised the game took place. In fact the pitch was near perfect, even the "naughty corner". That indicates to this layman at least the major cause of flooding is a saturation problem. In other words the pitch can take so much and that's it. If there's a sustained dry spell the surface could probably deal with a torrential downpour. The other side of the coin would mean if there's been sustained heavy rainfall even a moderate downpour a few days later could present a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Wimbledon was mentioned earlier, so why not have a retractable roof over the entire stadium ? OK, so we would have to develop the bing, create structures in each corner and maybe do something about the main stand. It would certainly stop any problems of matches being postponed due to the weather and as a bonus, teams could no longer come to play the long high punt up the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 at end of season, club needs to dig a big hole where the flooding occurs, and from there dig and lay fishbone drainage system that runs length of the front of the bing, and connect it to the main drains on firhill road. that way runoff from the bing as well as pitch will be carried away and should avoid future seasons of this embarrassing issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 1, 2016 Members Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Years ago, the ground used to flood in front of the Main Stand. it took them years to discover there was an old drain that ran down from the canal and it had collapsed, hence the flooding. Wonder if there is something similar at this end of the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Can we not dig up the section, pack it with sand then finish it off with a bit of green paint? I'm sure Dundee did something similar recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 What's wrong with using sand these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Wimbledon was mentioned earlier, so why not have a retractable roof over the entire stadium ? OK, so we would have to develop the bing, create structures in each corner and maybe do something about the main stand. It would certainly stop any problems of matches being postponed due to the weather and as a bonus, teams could no longer come to play the long high punt up the park. How many millions do you think the club or the Weirs should put into that? The Centre Court retractable roof at Wimbledon is estimated to have cost between 80 and 100 million quid. I'd love it, but you and I and everybody knows that it ain't ever gonna happen. Edited February 2, 2016 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Besides it's not Wombles we want. It's gnomes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcapmilkdrinker Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 There was a letter in this month's WSC saying that clubs shouldn't be allowed to sign players until they'd invested in infrastructure (covers etc) that would allow their games to go ahead more often than not. Made sense when I read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Besides it's not Wombles we want. It's gnomes! Stevie Fulton would have made a good womble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Years ago, the ground used to flood in front of the Main Stand. it took them years to discover there was an old drain that ran down from the canal and it had collapsed, hence the flooding. Wonder if there is something similar at this end of the ground? I remember that well and the problem once diagnosed was cured. As you suggest, I think it's a fair bet that the current cause is similar. The whole of the pitch doesn't appear to flood, just the same area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I remember that well and the problem once diagnosed was cured. As you suggest, I think it's a fair bet that the current cause is similar. The whole of the pitch doesn't appear to flood, just the same area. On this flood prevention topic, maybe you should post as sandbag boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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