thebiglemon Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Just seen the decision- sickening Azeez might not be great but to compare him to Pogba is harsh+++ Azeez has a lot of attributes and gives defences a hard time and he won us the game at Dens. Pogba did nothing and had zero to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Put simply, we were robbed of a 2nd goal which could have given us victory. Azeez's lack of composure in front of goal is quite staggering. Doolan severely unlucky not to score with his header, how he even got to it was quite unbelievable. Still think Liam might have been fouled in the run up to their goal but no doubt he was sluggish in dealing with the ball. Welsh took his goal very well, he could teach Azeez a thing or 2 about composure, but yet again I thought he wanted too much time on the ball far too often. All in all, disappointed not to get 3 points given the run of games we have coming up now. But still not panicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Ender Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I don't think I'm going over the top here when I say that the offside decision was analogous to the conviction of the Birmingham Six 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Isn't there supposed to be a refereeing supervisor at each match? What the hell do they do? That flag-happy linesman could well end up seeing Thistle relegated because of his actions, but will he be held to account? Of course not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Lets get one thing straight. If we get relegated this season weve only got ourselves to blame. We cant be looking at the officials here. In almost every game Ive seen, not just our games, Ive seen some horrendous decisions by the officials which are embarrassing. I honestly don't think there is a decent referee in Scotland. The fact Willie Collum is regarded as one of the best says it all. The motherwell game the other week, I don't think ive seen so many basic calls given wrong but it wasnt the reason we lost the game. As for comparing Pogba and Azeez, Pogba edges it. If Azeez won us the game at Dens then Pogba won us the game at Hamilton. I reckon Pogba had a few assists and his touch was far better. Archie needs to cut his losses in January and bring in a replacement as he clearly hasn't got what is the fundamental attributes for footballer never mind a striker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Lets get one thing straight. If we get relegated this season weve only got ourselves to blame. We cant be looking at the officials here. In almost every game Ive seen, not just our games, Ive seen some horrendous decisions by the officials which are embarrassing. I honestly don't think there is a decent referee in Scotland. The fact Willie Collum is regarded as one of the best says it all. The motherwell game the other week, I don't think ive seen so many basic calls given wrong but it wasnt the reason we lost the game. As for comparing Pogba and Azeez, Pogba edges it. If Azeez won us the game at Dens then Pogba won us the game at Hamilton. I reckon Pogba had a few assists and his touch was far better. Archie needs to cut his losses in January and bring in a replacement as he clearly hasn't got what is the fundamental attributes for footballer never mind a striker. You can definitely argue a case against "we've only got ourselves to blame" We had terrible "luck" on the injury front, particularly with Cerny and then Scully,just when he seemed to be improving. We also had Dumbuya injuring himself just before pre season and meaning we had to spend money on Gordon. Also, don't forget the debacle around only getting 2 games at Firhill vs our Glasgow neighbours, costing us probably over £100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It was indicated at the time that Archie's playing budget would not be affected by the old firm debacle. Are we the only club blighted by injuries? We brought in Gordon to do a job which me included believed he was more than competent at doing. I don't see where your point about Gordon fits in. What was wrong with Crawford? He was adequate backup to scully and cerny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemei Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Can only concur with those saying we should have won. They've been doing this all season though, incredibly lucky to only have lost once at home after Saturday. Azeez is one of the most frustrating strikers I think i've ever watched, strength and pace in abundance, but can't finish his dinner. We definitely lacked creativity in the first half, think Erskine is due a starting place now, made a huge difference when he came on. Can only assume the linesman is an Accies fan or wanted the game to end 1-1 as that was simply not offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Agree with Monehjags - on this occasion. You can argue that a refereeing decision cost us 2 points on Saturday, but over the course of a season you can't blame officials for a relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Agree with Monehjags - on this occasion. You can argue that a refereeing decision cost us 2 points on Saturday, but over the course of a season you can't blame officials for a relegation. Until the day I die, and then beyond that, I will blame the referee at Tannadice for relegating us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Then you are very misguided and have an extremely selective memory - even for that one game. Edited December 5, 2016 by ian_mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Until the day I die, and then beyond that, I will blame the referee at Tannadice for relegating us. That's not opinion, that's fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 If we do end up going down this season, then like many others I believe it will be totally due to our own failings. The amount of games we ''should' have won or drawn and didn't is embarrassing frankly. This is however far from a new development for anybody watching their football at Firhill. What is really son earning me though is the amount of points we are dropping to those round about us. I don't expect anything from Friday's match, but equally I don't expect us to get hammered either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 You can argue that a refereeing decision cost us 2 points on Saturday, but over the course of a season you can't blame officials for a relegation. That's true perhaps tho' only to a degree. Given the standard of refereeing in Scotland it's also very likely that the teams at the bottom of the league will get the higher percentage of bad decisions against them. It would of course still be our fault for being in the lowly position to receive these poor decisions. Jaggernaut could come back and point out it was bad decisions like Saturday that got us in such a poor position in the first place. Could go round in circles with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 We haven't taken big chances at crucial points in some of these games and that is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 We haven't taken big chances at crucial points in some of these games and that is the difference. Correct. Everyone minds the defensive slip ups from Lindsay and Devine in particular but it's been at the other end of the pitch that's really cost us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It was indicated at the time that Archie's playing budget would not be affected by the old firm debacle. Are we the only club blighted by injuries? We brought in Gordon to do a job which me included believed he was more than competent at doing. I don't see where your point about Gordon fits in. What was wrong with Crawford? He was adequate backup to scully and cerny. Ok - I wasn't aware that the playing budget wouldn't be affected re the old firm fixtures. However, Gordon was brought in because of Dumbuya's injury and for no other reason. Crawford was only temporary to cover Cerny's injury. Then Scully gets injured and we need to bring in Stuckman. All of these must have affected how much was available for a Central Defender. Other clubs have injuries - but we have had 2 keepers out at the same time and had no cover at right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I knew part of the reason Gordon was signed was because of Muzzy's unfortunate injury. I also thought he was signed for his versatility across the back line. I don't think it affected his budget to bring in another CB as was seen by us forking out a transfer fee for Adam Barton. Regardless, for me the defence should have been the first thing that was addressed during the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I knew part of the reason Gordon was signed was because of Muzzy's unfortunate injury. I also thought he was signed for his versatility across the back line. I don't think it affected his budget to bring in another CB as was seen by us forking out a transfer fee for Adam Barton. Regardless, for me the defence should have been the first thing that was addressed during the summer Do you think it was ignored, or do you think it was addressed and we were unable to get those we targeted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrybriscoe Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Gave in and had a look at the match 'highlights'. Azeez is an absolute wage thief! There must be guys playing junior football who have more of a strikers instinct in front of goal than him. His one on one's with the keeper are just embarrassing, and in this game he was slower that a week in jail reacting to Kris Doolan's header rebounding off the post. He really should be anticipating the ball coming off keeper or post, but would be as well sitting in the stand with us given the way he just stands there ball watching. Just not good enough for this level. And if I hear another comment on the radio or elsewhere about Liam Lindsay being an accomplished defender I'll greet. He's got potential but really needs to start learning from his frequent and costly mistakes, up his energy levels, and switch on to the pace of the game a whole lot sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 No PT i dont think it was ignored but i dont believe it was addressed. If the reason was because he failed to get his targets, it wasnt the january transfer window, he had 6-8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 And if I hear another comment on the radio or elsewhere about Liam Lindsay being an accomplished defender I'll greet. He's got potential but really needs to start learning from his frequent and costly mistakes, up his energy levels, and switch on to the pace of the game a whole lot sooner. No argument from me but as an aside I think Saturday exonerated Archie from any criticism re not going out of his way to re-sign Seaborne. Even if anyone thinks Lindsay's no better than Dan was (not an unreasonable opinion at this moment in time) I think it's fair to assume Liam is not on the wage Seaborne was on. Also it's fair to assume Lindsay has the potential to improve even if the learning curve has been rather costly. The Seaborne thingy is probably academic (npi) as I believe he wanted to try pastures new and only ended up back in Scotland as things didn't work out (similar to Conrad). I reckon Accies fans are counting the days till Tena returns to full fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 For a while the combination of Booth ,Sebo,Frans, Muzzy was the best we have had for decades and Sebo was part of that. This season's defence has been consistantly rank rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTFC1942 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why are teams not signing Highland League goal scorers or other players from there? Buckle 84 goals for 25 against, Brora 72 goals for and 21 against. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why are teams not signing Highland League goal scorers or other players from there? Buckle 84 goals for 25 against, Brora 72 goals for and 21 against. Just a thought. Maybe Highland names don't sound exotic enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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