Lenziejag Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, exiledjag said: If things stay as they are with no further signings or departures I think we can assess this window as successful. IMO transfer activity represents a good balance between short term and long term needs with perhaps a bit more emphasis on the short term needed. I expect my sanity will be questioned on this next point but I have no problems with Williamson, Saunders and Mansell still being at Firhill. I feel there is something in each of these players that IMC (and coaches) can develop. On the other hand would not be unhappy if Robson, Cardle and Zanetta were released. The latter two strike me as players who will contribute to a team which is flying, like Dundee Utd, but are not suited to one which is struggling like PTFC! They don't appear to have the attitude, work ethic or commitment to the cause! Austin, haven't seen him but defer to fellow posters who have. Let him go! Not sure I agree with you regards Zanatta on two counts. Last season he was with Alloa who struggled pretty much all season - like us. And I think most Thistle fans thought his signing was good business. We won’t know if the window has been successful until the end of the season or we are safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 What's with the love in for Doolan? Romanticism blinding people from the obvious fact that Doolan has done her haw for nigh on 3 seasons. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, Gary Peebles Tackle said: I'm not saying he'd be a starter every week or play 90 mins - but if we need a goal with 15-20 mins to go, I'd back Doolan at this level. Agree regarding Morton. Regardless of where he ends up, wish him all the very best. 36 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Got to disagree DD , the chances we’ve created this year with no forward even in the vicinity of the penalty box , I reckon with the way we are playing just now Doolan would get goals , we’ve just given Brian Graham a 2 and 1/2 year deal who has scored a total of 10 goals in the last 2 seasons . Doolan is only a year older than Brian Graham , I wouldn’t write him off just yet . I guess you're entitled to your opinion, even if you are both wrong I wouldn't have taken Graham for exactly your reasons, but we had to do something and I don't know who was available. Wighton would have been a great signing as he knows where the back of the net is at Firhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, exiledjag said: If things stay as they are with no further signings or departures I think we can assess this window as successful. You can only make that claim if results improve. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Duke Gekantawa said: I know where you're coming from with Zanatta, but he did impress last season at struggling Alloa OK accept your point about his time at Alloa but he has not impressed this season at struggling Thistle! Who stays/who leaves is just my opinion. If Zanetta stays and shows the right attitude and in his own way gets stuck in I'll be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linlithgow Jag Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Does anyone know the latest on Alan Forrest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Linlithgow Jag said: Does anyone know the latest on Alan Forrest? I think he is going to Livi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Linlithgow Jag said: Does anyone know the latest on Alan Forrest? Signed a PCA with Livi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'm not getting why people are thinking that this has been a great transfer window Graham for Miller and McKinnon for Harkins appear to be like for like and I'd be surprised if Graham scores as many as Miller did. Likewise Bajonas for Palmer doesn't look to be a huge game changer. Brownlie for McGinty doesn't look to be that different. QotS fans were not exactly weeping on the steps of Palmerston at the thought of him leaving. And Lyon we wont see in action until next season which is hardly going to get us out of the current predicament. That leaves Rudden and O'Connor for Slater and Wilson. Hard to make like for like comparison and I will admit that an attacker and defender for 2 midfielders does help the balance of the squad and addresspositions where we were lacking. However Rudden hardly set the heather alight down in Plymouth and O'Connor is largely unproven. Maybe the new guys have a much better mental attitude and we'll find out over the next few games if that is the case, but I don't get why this is being touted as such a great transfer window. It will certainly have had a negative impact on the clubs finances which were rumoured to be in something of a mess. Is it just that the new players were signed by golden bollocks McCall ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'm not getting why people are thinking that this has been a great transfer window Graham for Miller and McKinnon for Harkins appear to be like for like and I'd be surprised if Graham scores as many as Miller did. Likewise Bajonas for Palmer doesn't look to be a huge game changer. Brownlie for McGinty doesn't look to be that different. QotS fans were not exactly weeping on the steps of Palmerston at the thought of him leaving. And Lyon we wont see in action until next season which is hardly going to get us out of the current predicament. That leaves Rudden and O'Connor for Slater and Wilson. Hard to make like for like comparison and I will admit that an attacker and defender for 2 midfielders does help the balance of the squad and addresspositions where we were lacking. However Rudden hardly set the heather alight down in Plymouth and O'Connor is largely unproven. Maybe the new guys have a much better mental attitude and we'll find out over the next few games if that is the case, but I don't get why this is being touted as such a great transfer window. It will certainly have had a negative impact on the clubs finances which were rumoured to be in something of a mess. Is it just that the new players were signed by golden bollocks McCall ? Some good points there, but if there is "just" one reason I think it's that the dross that has gone was just that: proven dross. Relief, even if temporary. At least we can hope for something better from the dross talent that has just arrived. Edited January 31, 2020 by Jaggernaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'm not getting why people are thinking that this has been a great transfer window Graham for Miller and McKinnon for Harkins appear to be like for like and I'd be surprised if Graham scores as many as Miller did. Likewise Bajonas for Palmer doesn't look to be a huge game changer. Brownlie for McGinty doesn't look to be that different. QotS fans were not exactly weeping on the steps of Palmerston at the thought of him leaving. And Lyon we wont see in action until next season which is hardly going to get us out of the current predicament. That leaves Rudden and O'Connor for Slater and Wilson. Hard to make like for like comparison and I will admit that an attacker and defender for 2 midfielders does help the balance of the squad and addresspositions where we were lacking. However Rudden hardly set the heather alight down in Plymouth and O'Connor is largely unproven. Maybe the new guys have a much better mental attitude and we'll find out over the next few games if that is the case, but I don't get why this is being touted as such a great transfer window. It will certainly have had a negative impact on the clubs finances which were rumoured to be in something of a mess. Is it just that the new players were signed by golden bollocks McCall ? We will have to wait and see. I'm not sure what signings would have impressed you ? McCall has a balancing act to reinvigorate a largely poor team and for me it's mainly a gut feeling that we will improve. And.....we wouldn't be getting these players if they were brilliant or proven. It's where we are..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'm not getting why people are thinking that this has been a great transfer window Graham for Miller and McKinnon for Harkins appear to be like for like and I'd be surprised if Graham scores as many as Miller did. Likewise Bajonas for Palmer doesn't look to be a huge game changer. Brownlie for McGinty doesn't look to be that different. QotS fans were not exactly weeping on the steps of Palmerston at the thought of him leaving. And Lyon we wont see in action until next season which is hardly going to get us out of the current predicament. That leaves Rudden and O'Connor for Slater and Wilson. Hard to make like for like comparison and I will admit that an attacker and defender for 2 midfielders does help the balance of the squad and addresspositions where we were lacking. However Rudden hardly set the heather alight down in Plymouth and O'Connor is largely unproven. Maybe the new guys have a much better mental attitude and we'll find out over the next few games if that is the case, but I don't get why this is being touted as such a great transfer window. It will certainly have had a negative impact on the clubs finances which were rumoured to be in something of a mess. Is it just that the new players were signed by golden bollocks McCall ? Leaving aside his mistake last Saturday and every defender makes them let’s face it. But Queen of the south fans are generally very sorry to be losing brownlie - looking through pie and bovril and their own forum most seemed to consider him their best player this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'm not getting why people are thinking that this has been a great transfer window Graham for Miller and McKinnon for Harkins appear to be like for like and I'd be surprised if Graham scores as many as Miller did. Likewise Bajonas for Palmer doesn't look to be a huge game changer. Brownlie for McGinty doesn't look to be that different. QotS fans were not exactly weeping on the steps of Palmerston at the thought of him leaving. And Lyon we wont see in action until next season which is hardly going to get us out of the current predicament. That leaves Rudden and O'Connor for Slater and Wilson. Hard to make like for like comparison and I will admit that an attacker and defender for 2 midfielders does help the balance of the squad and addresspositions where we were lacking. However Rudden hardly set the heather alight down in Plymouth and O'Connor is largely unproven. Maybe the new guys have a much better mental attitude and we'll find out over the next few games if that is the case, but I don't get why this is being touted as such a great transfer window. It will certainly have had a negative impact on the clubs finances which were rumoured to be in something of a mess. Is it just that the new players were signed by golden bollocks McCall ? I expect Brownlie to be a big upgrade on McGinty (though that's not exactly difficult). Rudden looks a decent signing. Miller stopped scoring after a decent start (and his goals per minutes on the pitch ratio this season is behind Doolan's last season). More importantly, it feels that there is a plan behind the signings, which I simply didn't get with Caldwell. Graham is a very different type of striker to Miller, and has been signed to be a target man (which we've not had in a while). Rudden is different again and should complement Graham (hopefully). And as you say, the squad now has better balance. There's always a limit to what you can realistically achieve in a January window, particularly when you're at the bottom of the Championship. In that regard, this window has (or at least feels) been better than expected. I know that doesn't mean it won't all go tits up, though- only time will tell. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Scotland Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 The utter MISERY of people on here who don't want Doolan back. Oh, wait ... it's the same people who are miserable about the signings in this transfer window, who are miserable about Archibald being back even as an assistant, who are miserable about McCall but were miserable about the manager before that, and the one before that, and so on. The last three years have been an absolute boon for you all. I'm sure you'll all be as happy as pigs in shite sitting in Firhill being wet and cold and miserable tonight. And if we lose, even better! You can be even more miserable. We should change the club colours to grey and grey and black: The Maryhill Magyars Moaners. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, West of Scotland said: The utter MISERY of people on here who don't want Doolan back. Oh, wait ... it's the same people who are miserable about the signings in this transfer window, who are miserable about Archibald being back even as an assistant, who are miserable about McCall but were miserable about the manager before that, and the one before that, and so on. The last three years have been an absolute boon for you all. I'm sure you'll all be as happy as pigs in shite sitting in Firhill being wet and cold and miserable tonight. And if we lose, even better! You can be even more miserable. We should change the club colours to grey and grey and black: The Maryhill Magyars Moaners. In the words of the Fab Four (the other four, not Coulston, Bone, Rae, Lawrie): The world is treating me baaad........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruchillnomore Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 So expressing an opinion contrary to yours makes everyone Who does a miserable sod ???? Doolan is finished at this level pretty much in the same way he was just before he left. Decent striker In his time but this club have to sign better to move upwards and onwards. To be fair reading your post has made me miserable I’m away to take the dog out at least he listens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ruchillnomore said: So expressing an opinion contrary to yours makes everyone Who does a miserable sod ???? Doolan is finished at this level pretty much in the same way he was just before he left. Decent striker In his time but this club have to sign better to move upwards and onwards. To be fair reading your post has made me miserable I’m away to take the dog out at least he listens I would say more than decent in his time. I doubt that I'll ever see another striker score as many in the red n yellow (although I'd be delighted if I did). However that was in the past. One of the reasons that he had a better goals per minute ratio to Miller is because his legs were shot after an hour and forced us into a substitution (worse when playing with Squiddy which forced 2 after an hour). I think (my opinion and others may differ) this in turn cost us the chance to make tactical changes later in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, West of Scotland said: The utter MISERY of people on here who don't want Doolan back. Oh, wait ... it's the same people who are miserable about the signings in this transfer window, who are miserable about Archibald being back even as an assistant, who are miserable about McCall but were miserable about the manager before that, and the one before that, and so on. The last three years have been an absolute boon for you all. I'm sure you'll all be as happy as pigs in shite sitting in Firhill being wet and cold and miserable tonight. And if we lose, even better! You can be even more miserable. We should change the club colours to grey and grey and black: The Maryhill Magyars Moaners. I don't think I'm guilty. Normally I'm cheerleader for the happy clappers (although I've never hidden that I don't like McCall). I think if Archie learns from the mistakes he made then he could well be our next manager and I'd have no issue with that. I'd be over the moon if we won tonight. This season my knickers are so wet I need incontinence pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 19 hours ago, Jag said: I don't think you can include Joe Cardle as someone who doesn't work hard or isn't committed. OK perhaps been harsh with my comments on Cardle re commitment etc. Living where I do I don't get to see as many games as the majority of Jags fans. However I have seen Cardle a number of times now and IMO he hasn't contributed anything to the team being mainly ineffective and anonymous. That's how I formed my opinion. If you see him every week or so then you are in a better position than I am to assess him, however on what I've seen he has not impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: In the words of the Fab Four (the other four, not Coulston, Bone, Rae, Lawrie): The world is treating me baaad........ I was thinking Heavens Knows I'm Miserable Now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Re LenzieJag & DarkPassenger My comment "consider this window successful" I agree with your responses. You are both correct that we won't know if this is the case until results improve. I think the problem is my use of the word 'successful'. When typing the post I was thinking that the signings (and departures) in this transfer window looked 'better' when compared to recent (last 3 years) windows. In this window it looks like someone, presumably IMC, knows what they are doing and are working to a plan for the immediate and longer terms. This gives me some hope for the future. Re Zanetta. (LenzieJag) He has a lot of supporters on this forum and more importantly (for the player) IMC has publicly endorsed him. For me though he has a lot to do before I become one of them. A big step forward (for me) would be for him to lose the 'Amoo attitude' (ethargic, not interested) which he seems to project when playing. Similar to my comments about Cardle - if Zanetta rolls up his sleeves and gets stuck in, in his own way, then I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, West of Scotland said: The utter MISERY of people on here who don't want Doolan back. Oh, wait ... it's the same people who are miserable about the signings in this transfer window, who are miserable about Archibald being back even as an assistant, who are miserable about McCall but were miserable about the manager before that, and the one before that, and so on. The last three years have been an absolute boon for you all. I'm sure you'll all be as happy as pigs in shite sitting in Firhill being wet and cold and miserable tonight. And if we lose, even better! You can be even more miserable. We should change the club colours to grey and grey and black: The Maryhill Magyars Moaners. You missed an important bit: you forgot to mention that these people 'aren't real fans'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, West of Scotland said: The utter MISERY of people on here who don't want Doolan back. Oh, wait ... it's the same people who are miserable about the signings in this transfer window, who are miserable about Archibald being back even as an assistant, who are miserable about McCall but were miserable about the manager before that, and the one before that, and so on. The last three years have been an absolute boon for you all. I'm sure you'll all be as happy as pigs in shite sitting in Firhill being wet and cold and miserable tonight. And if we lose, even better! You can be even more miserable. We should change the club colours to grey and grey and black: The Maryhill Magyars Moaners. Quite a miserable post tbh.... doolan has gone get over it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Anyway, doesn't look like Doolan is coming back. Had hoped to get one / two more in, but seems we will need to make do with what we have. Need to start winning games - they'll soon run out. 3 points tonight please. Hope Rudden fit & can start alongside Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Amazed that Hibs have signed Paul McGinn. He was hardly outstanding for us and in no way a game-breaker, though perhaps more composed and consistent than some. Has he suddenly improved? Would you have been excited if he had signed for Thistle instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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