lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, AirdrieJag said: The more I read about the management of the pandemic, the less sure I become that we will see any football next season. We certainly saw very little football last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Neil Doncaster on sportsound for 1/2hour. The only guest i have heard on this show over the past 7 weeks who has been questioned by only 1 person and this is second week this has happened with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Neil Doncaster on sportsound for 1/2hour. The only guest i have heard on this show over the past 7 weeks who has been questioned by only 1 person and this is second week this has happened with him. Hi Robert, I trust that all is well. I have no idea how these things work, but maybe part of the stipulation by Doncaster and/or his team, is that he will have only one questioner (and perhaps pre-known questions). They know how badly he would flounder if he had to face up to spontaneous interrogation from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, scotty said: If Anne Budge's motives were reform of the SPFL and reconstruction in the interests of Scottish football I would hope we would stand behind her and encourage other clubs to do likewise. But, I'm not so sure! I think we now have no option but to stand behind her. The publication of the private letter to McLennan and the content of the Club's Statement, which I think can only be interpreted as a direct criticism of McLennan and his Board, suggests we have chosen sides. I think we need, to qoute Nelms (Dundee), "a big hitter " to join our dissident group. Like it or not that would be Rangers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Neil Doncaster on sportsound for 1/2hour. The only guest i have heard on this show over the past 7 weeks who has been questioned by only 1 person and this is second week this has happened with him. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, exiledjag said: What did he say? A lot, but nothing new. To summarize we are wasting time talking about investigating the SPFL board when we should be planning for the future of Scottish football. He was the first guest on, so the first 1/2 hour or so of the show. If you manage to listen to it keep listening after him to hear Tom English in particular disagree with a number of his comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 So the clubs below were the ones against reconstruction, I am surprised at St.Mirren and Dundee Utd well they have a bloody cheek! Aberdeen, St Mirren, Ross County, St Johnstone, Hibs and Dundee United put the kibosh on any Scottish football revolution with the the ongoing battle with COVID-19 looming large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, partickthedog said: Hi Robert, I trust that all is well. I have no idea how these things work, but maybe part of the stipulation by Doncaster and/or his team, is that he will have only one questioner (and perhaps pre-known questions). They know how badly he would flounder if he had to face up to spontaneous interrogation from others. Yes thanks ptd we are well. Doncaster was also on last Saturday and they said before the interview he requested to be interviewed by only 1 person. Not mentioned this time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pinhead said: So the clubs below were the ones against reconstruction, I am surprised at St.Mirren and Dundee Utd well they have a bloody cheek! Aberdeen, St Mirren, Ross County, St Johnstone, Hibs and Dundee United put the kibosh on any Scottish football revolution with the the ongoing battle with COVID-19 looming large. Looking forward to one or two of them getting relegated before too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirdrieJag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: I think our club and others will run with "lights on". Keep as much staff as possible and prep for a return. Honour the player contracts and unfortunately not renew those who expire. Fans will need to contribute to keep it solvent. There are things the club can do if they have the cash. Stadium improvements, plans for greater fan interaction and promotion etc. I don't know how much it would take to keep the club ticking over for a year without football, but 14 players' wages alone would be at least 500k, plus ground staff, plus Chief Exec, Manager etc and we wouldn't see much change out of £1 million. Add in business rates, staff on costs, stadium maintenance etc. etc and I'm guessing you have to be looking in the region of £2million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Out Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Looking forward to one or two of them getting relegated before too long. That won't happen next season if there is no Championship to promote anyone from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Out Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, AirdrieJag said: I don't know how much it would take to keep the club ticking over for a year without football, but 14 players' wages alone would be at least 500k, plus ground staff, plus Chief Exec, Manager etc and we wouldn't see much change out of £1 million. Add in business rates, staff on costs, stadium maintenance etc. etc and I'm guessing you have to be looking in the region of £2million. Sack the manager and it would save a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 Wow. ICT statement sounds like the most significant so far. While I admit that I was quick to ridicule Rangers, there seems to now be some momentum to back up their claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirdrieJag Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, allyo said: Wow. ICT statement sounds like the most significant so far. While I admit that I was quick to ridicule Rangers, there seems to now be some momentum to back up their claims. They certainly haven't missed and hit the wall! The cracks are beginning to show in the SPFL edifice, but whether it'll make any difference isn't certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, allyo said: Wow. ICT statement sounds like the most significant so far. While I admit that I was quick to ridicule Rangers, there seems to now be some momentum to back up their claims. Is Scott Gardiner not all over the Rangers dossier though, so is it really any surprise? I still think he wants Doncasters job and a few are being used as pawns in Gardiners game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, McCall Out said: Sack the manager and it would save a bit We would still need a new manager and have to pay off the old one. Do the sums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 I have found the ICT statement and read it, and I would recommend everyone to do likewise. From a club with something to lose, a promotion play-off, it is a remarkably comprehensive expression of their disgust at the way the SPFL have created and handled this whole mess. Hats off to them for their excellent contribution. Let's hope other clubs stick their heads above the parapet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Out Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, dl1971 said: We would still need a new manager and have to pay off the old one. Do the sums. Why do we need a manager when there is no prospect of football in the immediate future ? We would immediately save on the National Insurance and other add-ons to the basic salary We could negotiate a compensation package that would be less than the total wages owed I would suggest that you do the sums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, McCall Out said: Why do we need a manager when there is no prospect of football in the immediate future ? We would immediately save on the National Insurance and other add-ons to the basic salary We could negotiate a compensation package that would be less than the total wages owed I would suggest that you do the sums. I dont see other teams doing what you suggest. Are you the wetherspoons owner by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Out Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, dl1971 said: I dont see other teams doing what you suggest. Are you the wetherspoons owner by any chance? Other teams don't have a manager who has failed as miserably as McCall has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, McCall Out said: Other teams don't have a manager who has failed as miserably as McCall has Troll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, AirdrieJag said: I don't know how much it would take to keep the club ticking over for a year without football, but 14 players' wages alone would be at least 500k, plus ground staff, plus Chief Exec, Manager etc and we wouldn't see much change out of £1 million. Add in business rates, staff on costs, stadium maintenance etc. etc and I'm guessing you have to be looking in the region of £2million. Even if there was football, this is going to be a tough gig with turnover down to approximately 1.2 million, the reason why the Raith Rovers chairman was so keen for the Leagues to be finalised was more likely to be because they were 1.5 million in debt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Apparently Doncaster says that it will be the clubs that suffer if legal action is taken against the SPFL. Does that make the SPFL untouchable..?! Seems pretty threatening language. Reckon this is close to reaching a tipping point Edited May 10, 2020 by Jag36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jag36 said: Apparently Doncaster says that it will be the clubs that suffer if legal action is taken against the SPFL. Does that make the SPFL untouchable..?! Seems pretty threatening language. Reckon this is close to reaching a tipping point Have Rangers not offered to pay for it? I know it then doesn’t make it look like an independent review but Dongcaster won’t say how much the initial (very narrow remit) Deloittes review cost, yet he knows an independent review will cost the clubs. So he could basically get away with anything and then just threaten the clubs it’ll come out of their coffers if they want him investigated. He’s untouchable! I’d take relegation to league 2 just now if it meant this numpty was outed in public and shown to be a corrupt snake! Can’t wait for SSB tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 20 hours ago, topcat said: I think it has to be more than Legal Action. It has to be an all out effort to get rid of Doncaster and the SPFL crowd and run with something totally new. That is the bold direction that should be taken. Call it a breakaway if you wish but there can be no better time for this to happen. Absolutely , this reform from within nonsense just does not work when there are dishonest people involved with self interest and cronyism rife. Would be delighted if we were at the forefront of something new and innovative , ideally that does not include the Ugly sisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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