Norgethistle Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 hours ago, javeajag said: The military are already involved They are involved as a resource, they should be given full control as a national emergency (as it is), remove politics, helping friends companies out, or lining own pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Far easier for the Scottish Government to pay a private firm £2m to oversee it than trust their own civil servants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Norgethistle said: They are involved as a resource, they should be given full control as a national emergency (as it is), remove politics, helping friends companies out, or lining own pockets. they are heavily involved ......and any evidence of your last two points in Scotland ? https://news.stv.tv/scotland/army-to-set-up-80-coronavirus-vaccine-sites-in-scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Col said: Far easier for the Scottish Government to pay a private firm £2m to oversee it than trust their own civil servants. that will be the army then ..... https://news.stv.tv/scotland/army-to-set-up-80-coronavirus-vaccine-sites-in-scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 hours ago, javeajag said: that will be the army then ..... https://news.stv.tv/scotland/army-to-set-up-80-coronavirus-vaccine-sites-in-scotland KPMG have been handed a £2m contract by the SG to provide consultancy services on the vaccination programme. No tendering - handed the contract directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 After today's further covid restrictions I can't see us playing again untill mid March beginning of April ..If ever this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: After today's further covid restrictions I can't see us playing again untill mid March beginning of April ..If ever this season. ditto ... the baw’s up the slates Edited January 19, 2021 by gianlucatoni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: After today's further covid restrictions I can't see us playing again untill mid March beginning of April ..If ever this season. I never thought there was any chance even before this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 21 hours ago, Jimmy McD said: After today's further covid restrictions I can't see us playing again untill mid March beginning of April ..If ever this season. I’m struggling to see us back playing in 2021 and if we do I can’t see fans back this calendar year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Imo Scottish football has not done itself any favours with the public outbursts aimed at the Scottish Government. Lennon's arrogant rant being the latest example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Surprised to hear that the rugger chappies are still thinking the 6 Nations thingy is likely to go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) The way the virus is behaving is entirely predictable. We have large waves on infection in winter, lower in summer. Its the same with seasonal flu and every other virus. The new variants that increase the R number will still follow the same pattern. The vacinnation program will reduce the hospital admission rate and mortality rate in time but we have to assume there will be a 3rd wave of size unknown in winter of 21/22 and probably a 4th wave in 22/23. With that in mind the real question for the football authorities is why are we not switching to summer football? We are unlikely to complete seasons that run over winter in either the current season or the new season. A season that started in April/May and finished in August/ September would allow the best opportunity for games to be played and possibly with some sort of fan attendance. Its also an opportunity to test summer football for the next 2 years before looking at a more pemanent switch. The fact that there is no plan from the SFA or SPFL or even a discussion shows how desperately they are clinging to the hope that someone or something will make the decision go away. On another note. The reporter on the news when discussing Rugby suggested the Scottish Government was reviewing essential travel for elite sport and may decide it needs to be curtailed. The French Rugby authorities have so far only sanctioned their team playing in Italy. That would suggest that Sevco may run into problems playing their europa league games in February . It also makes you wonder if Celtic are goading the Scottish Government into stopping all football so they can declare the league void and get another go at 10 in a row. Edited January 20, 2021 by laukat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) The decision is whether we play summer football and straight from there into next season or we call the league( null and void whatever,) now. Can't see lower league football being allowed to resume until april/May IMO summer football makes total sense- the possibility of fans being allowed in- the subsequent financial benefit of that. Edited January 20, 2021 by Jag36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, laukat said: The way the virus is behaving is entirely predictable. We have large waves on infection in winter, lower in summer. Its the same with seasonal flu and every other virus. The new variants that increase the R number will still follow the same pattern. The vacinnation program will reduce the hospital admission rate and mortality rate in time but we have to assume there will be a 3rd wave of size unknown in winter of 21/22 and probably a 4th wave in 22/23. With that in mind the real question for the football authorities is why are we not switching to summer football? We are unlikely to complete seasons that run over winter in either the current season or the new season. A season that started in April/May and finished in August/ September would allow the best opportunity for games to be played and possibly with some sort of fan attendance. Its also an opportunity to test summer football for the next 2 years before looking at a more pemanent switch. The fact that there is no plan from the SFA or SPFL or even a discussion shows how desperately they are clinging to the hope that someone or something will make the decision go away. On another note. The reporter on the news when discussing Rugby suggested the Scottish Government was reviewing essential travel for elite sport and may decide it needs to be curtailed. The French Rugby authorities have so far only sanctioned their team playing in Italy. That would suggest that Sevco may run into problems playing their europa league games in February . It also makes you wonder if Celtic are goading the Scottish Government into stopping all football so they can declare the league void and get another go at 10 in a row. On the last point. The premiership have played over 1/2 their games and are only 2 or 3 away from when the lower leagues were called last season. I am not sure if all clubs would have to vote on this or just the premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Norgethistle said: I’m struggling to see us back playing in 2021 and if we do I can’t see fans back this calendar year Jeezo Norge you’re a right ray of Norwegian sunshine ! Had a dream about the old firhill last night ... the shed was heaving red and yellow everywhere. Woke up and my missus was snoring and farting beside me what a fekin ball buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 13 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Surprised to hear that the rugger chappies are still thinking the 6 Nations thingy is likely to go ahead. The rugby teams will go into a bubble, with little contact to the outside world. With regular testing, they should be safe from picking up the virus. The travel to and from Italy and France could be the issue, but in most cases elite sport with chartered flights should be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Surprised to hear that the rugger chappies are still thinking the 6 Nations thingy is likely to go ahead. No different than the Premier leagues in Scotland or England. All driven by the desire not to lose millions of pounds of TV money. First thought is 'we must play these games otherwise we lose TV money' 2nd thought 'what do we need to do to to get the games on?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 It was the starting of a fresh tournament that involves constant border crossing that surprised me a little. Anyways with footballers getting criticised for hugging each other, is it fair to presume that the rugby will be played without scrums, mauls and tackles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Imo Scottish football has not done itself any favours with the public outbursts aimed at the Scottish Government. Lennon's arrogant rant being the latest example. Agreed. Except I would rephrase it to say 'Scottish football has been done no favours by the public outbursts from the small clique of arrogant, entitled self-interested w**ks who run the sport for their own benefit'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Lenziejag said: On the last point. The premiership have played over 1/2 their games and are only 2 or 3 away from when the lower leagues were called last season. I am not sure if all clubs would have to vote on this or just the premiership. I would expect that they would have to vote. However if a proposal is tabled to try to finalise league positions all Celtic need is enough to defeat that proposal. Last time it needed 9 votes from Premier league clubs to vote for the final placings to be awarded. If we assume whoever is at the bottom of the league will vote with Celtic they only need to 'encourage' a couple more clubs to defeat the proposal. I'm sure whatever the SFA and SPFL do will be in the best interests of the game and all the clubs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, laukat said: I would expect that they would have to vote. However if a proposal is tabled to try to finalise league positions all Celtic need is enough to defeat that proposal. Last time it needed 9 votes from Premier league clubs to vote for the final placings to be awarded. If we assume whoever is at the bottom of the league will vote with Celtic they only need to 'encourage' a couple more clubs to defeat the proposal. I'm sure whatever the SFA and SPFL do will be in the best interests of the game and all the clubs... After what Rangers said when this happened 12 months ago, it would by hypocricy if they were now to vote for final placings before the end of the season. Or am I naive ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Interesting https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55730534 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Interesting https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55730534 Fine, I suppose, till you read this https://www.nottheoldfirm.com/news/kilmarnock-owner-billy-bowie-details-positive-transfer-talks-with-alex-dyer/ I'm assuming a government loan is more attractive than a commercial loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, gianlucatoni said: Jeezo Norge you’re a right ray of Norwegian sunshine ! Had a dream about the old firhill last night ... the shed was heaving red and yellow everywhere. Woke up and my missus was snoring and farting beside me what a fekin ball buster Hope your missus doesn't read this forum, or you will be in the spare room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 11 hours ago, gianlucatoni said: Jeezo Norge you’re a right ray of Norwegian sunshine ! Had a dream about the old firhill last night ... the shed was heaving red and yellow everywhere. Woke up and my missus was snoring and farting beside me what a fekin ball buster For probably the first time, I’m not seeing the light at end of the tunnel. Im now 26 weeks out last year on home office, bars, restaurants etc closed here, travel corridor between Norway and UK closed, no idea when I can get back to see my parents never mind get to Firhill, plus it’s January (always a down month), weather is atrocious (wind, rain, snow) so can’t even get out in my fishing boat (technically I’m not allowed to go out with my fishing mate as no cross house contact, not going in North Sea alone into 150 meters depth), due to weather. Hopefully things improve soon, as another year of this would truly grip my shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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