exiledjag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: I think Legal action is only worthwhile if we are joining a group of teams looking to take action (Hearts, Falkirk, Stranraer & Sevco). To go it alone what be wasting money and if anyone remembers our last legal challenge we were painted as the baddie denying poor little Inverness their promotion even though their stadium didn't comply and ground sharing wasn't allowed. It would be worst PR given what is actually happening across the world. I also hope we are being proactive. Its fine saying we dont accept this but Hopefully we have been reaching out to other clubs and coming up with alternative solutions. I do believe I can see a number of teams voting against this especially those in a playoff position. I know money is the big issue but surely something could be reached in paying all clubs in each respective division an equal sum of money. This then could be taken into account in next seasons prize money and giving teams only the prize money minus any additional money paid out in the previous based on the respective league positions once the season is finished. Big question still remains when the season could be restarted, If at all but i think if you are giving one league the chance to finish then you have to give all leagues a chance to finish even if these games have to be played behind closed doors. I think a more practical solution is to compress the season, there are only 8(9) games left. This could be played within 5 weeks and reduce each playoff game to 1 leg. So assuming a mid August start season could be over be end of September. Cancel League and Challenge cups and front and end load games leaving the winter fixture schedule similar to normal. Only other option is the league reconstruction. Even in a simple form of no relegation and all league winners promoted, including that of Lowland and Highland Leagues. Then producing an end result of a 12-12 10-10 league set up. Not the major reconstruction everyone apart from the elite want but would help resolve the situation. Reading the football threads on the various BBC news articles there are lots of expressions in support of the Jags from non-Jags fans. These supporting views express no support for Hearts (4points behind) but with regard to Jags use words like 'stitched-up and shafted'. Why? Well 2 points behind and the game in hand seem to be the factors swinging views in our favour. So not sure about legal action being a PR disaster on this occasion. I will be buying a season ticket and like many others on this thread I will not ever be going to places like Ayr, Livingston, St Mirren, Clyde or in fact anyone who votes for this plan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 This is where we find out how costly the ref changing his mind about the penalty v QoS will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Not sure I agree. There needs to be more than 5 in league 1 and 2 voting against and SPFL have cleverly ensured that Brechin won’t vote against. Whether any playoff contenders in league 2 do is another question. Ah yes, needs to be more than 5 No votes in L1 and L2 combined, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, exiledjag said: I meant yes or no in the majority sense not in the individual. So clubs who vote no - let's say Rangers, Hearts and us will still receive their share if the overall vote is yes! Apologies for lack of precision in my writing! No problem , apologies for my lack of understanding ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, CotterJag said: Regarding the vote, is it: a - 75% required in each division b - a combined 75% from all divisions Thanks Cotter 75% in Prem (9) 75% in Champ (8) 75% in L1 and L2 combined (15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, Vinnyjag said: Combined No it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, Vinnyjag said: Combined Harvester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 We are well past the 17.00 hrs deadline, and no news as far as I can see. Can't decide if that is good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, eljaggo said: We are well past the 17.00 hrs deadline, and no news as far as I can see. Can't decide if that is good or bad. That's when votes have to be in by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 It takes the SPFL a long time to count the votes and make sure they get the result they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 On Twitter us Dundee Inverness voted against pros all falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 It’s a NO , Partick Thistle , Dundee and Inverness voted against it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Statement due out shortly from @spfl . As I understand it, at least 3 Championship clubs have voted against the SPFL board resolution. That’s enough to defeat it, as 10 from that division needed to be in favour. @BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 According to statement from SPFL they’re still waiting for one more Championship club to vote and with it at 7-2 in favour their vote will be crucial. Vote no and the motion fails. Vote yes and we’re away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Col said: According to statement from SPFL they’re still waiting for one more Championship club to vote and with it at 7-2 in favour their vote will be crucial. Vote no and the motion fails. Vote yes and we’re away. Surely, if the deadline has passed then the vote will not count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Col said: According to statement from SPFL they’re still waiting for one more Championship club to vote and with it at 7-2 in favour their vote will be crucial. Vote no and the motion fails. Vote yes and we’re away. What about league 1 and 2 and the SPFL votes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BowenBoys said: This is where we find out how costly the ref changing his mind about the penalty v QoS will be. That wasn't in our hands. Bannigan's telegraphed penalty v Dunfermline though................... Edited April 10, 2020 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: What about league 1 and 2 and the SPFL votes? The required majority was received from Leagues1 and 2 clubs, as was the Premier League with only 1 club voting against and 10 for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 What a clusterf**k this whole process is. Scottish football doing what it does best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Surely, if the deadline has passed then the vote will not count. According to the Daily Record (so take this with a huge pinch of salt) the clubs have 28 days to respond but the SPFL wanted it done in 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Wait g for the voting slip from one championship club apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 For the vote to carry was it 75% of clubs in the championship or 75% of votes cast by championship clubs. That could be crucial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellowallover Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Why have they released the votes without everyone voting? Absolute madness! That's a lot of pressure on the last team in the championship to submit a vote. Basically all rests on them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve61 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hopefully our vote isn't in yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big Col said: According to the Daily Record (so take this with a huge pinch of salt) the clubs have 28 days to respond but the SPFL wanted it done in 2 days. They have published the number of votes for yes and no before all the clubs have voted!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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