exiledjag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, gianlucatoni said: been a bit quiet on here... I'm missing WJ. anyway onto business... my mate heard from their distant cousin who he's never met - apparently he's in the know and has it on some authority that he's heard that the panel are still sitting but may have finished, that a decision is imminent but might have been delayed and we may if may not be reinstated/relegated or given some cash or not. Really precise information. Always good to know someone in the 'know'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Auld Jag said: The person who deals with the fixtures was on sportsound a few weeks ago explaining the different things they need to take into consideration when doing the fixtures. Like not having the two erse cheeks playing in Glasgow same weekend, Edinburgh teams and rugby internationals not clashing, also having to leave weekends free for cup competitions and international games, having free midweeks for postponed games. There was a few other things mentioned which i now forget. But it was quite a list. I accept its not as easy as pulling names from a hat, but how difficult can it really be? I cannot believe there is nobody in Scotland capable of undertaking this role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Emsca said: I accept its not as easy as pulling names from a hat, but how difficult can it really be? I cannot believe there is nobody in Scotland capable of undertaking this role. Peter Lawell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Emsca said: I accept its not as easy as pulling names from a hat, but how difficult can it really be? I cannot believe there is nobody in Scotland capable of undertaking this role. Agree with above but as this work has been sub-contracted to an external provider outwith Scotland it will come down to price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 The person on sportsound was from the SPFL board. He said the company that did the fixture list also did the fixture lists for other leagues around the world, and also other sporting events like the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, exiledjag said: Agree with above but as this work has been sub-contracted to an external provider outwith Scotland it will come down to price! It'll undoubtedly be a financially prudent venture. I'm sure we can all trust Neil Doncaster (salary £380K+ pa) to ensure the SPFL don't squander money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, gianlucatoni said: been a bit quiet on here... I'm missing WJ. anyway onto business... my mate heard from their distant cousin who he's never met - apparently he's in the know and has it on some authority that he's heard that the panel are still sitting but may have finished, that a decision is imminent but might have been delayed and we may if may not be reinstated/relegated or given some cash or not. You may be right; on the other hand, maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, exiledjag said: Agree with above but as this work has been sub-contracted to an external provider outwith Scotland it will come down to price! Sub contracted by whom? It is the SPFL's responsibility to do this - it is one of the few things they are asked to do along with distributing prize money. Please tell me they have not appointed someone to do this who has then sub-contracted the work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Is Neil Doncaater's salary basically just danger money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Emsca said: I accept its not as easy as pulling names from a hat, but how difficult can it really be? I cannot believe there is nobody in Scotland capable of undertaking this role. Quite possibly. It requires some very specialised software to set the fixtures for a sporting season. There are not many companies in the world who can provide this service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Auld Jag said: The person on sportsound was from the SPFL board. He said the company that did the fixture list also did the fixture lists for other leagues around the world, and also other sporting events like the NFL. There's the answer. It will cost a company in this position next to nothing to set up its software to produce our and other fixture schedules so will benefit from 'economy of scale'! It should be able to reflect this in the tender proposal and be able to undercut competitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Emsca said: Sub contracted by whom? It is the SPFL's responsibility to do this - it is one of the few things they are asked to do along with distributing prize money. Please tell me they have not appointed someone to do this who has then sub-contracted the work ? As far as i can make out the SPFL get the American company to do the fixtures. So no, they haven't sub contracted it to somebody who has then sub contracted to some other company to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 According to the Scottish Sun, counsel for DU/RR/CR (Borland) told the clubs that there is unlikely to be a result till Friday at the earliest. I wonder if he started to pass on this information last night, but has just finished..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Information here about how the EPL sort out their fixtures. https://www.premierleague.com/news/419044https://www.premierleague.com/news/419020 And here is how the SPFL do it. Not much detail. https://spfl.co.uk/news/fixtures-qa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaty FC Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Quite possibly. It requires some very specialised software to set the fixtures for a sporting season. There are not many companies in the world who can provide this service. We already know the spfl have specialised software. Especially specific for incoming spam emails! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivad Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Dramatic final evening in the English Championship. All of the five sides that occupied the bottom five places in the table on the night of 2 July have stayed up - Luton, Barnsley, Stoke, Middlesbrough and Huddersfield. Particularly miraculous in the case of Luton, who took sixteen points from the final nine games to survive. Illustrates just how poor a guide to the final positions a snapshot of an uncompleted season can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sivad said: Dramatic final evening in the English Championship. All of the five sides that occupied the bottom five places in the table on the night of 2 July have stayed up - Luton, Barnsley, Stoke, Middlesbrough and Huddersfield. Particularly miraculous in the case of Luton, who took sixteen points from the final nine games to survive. Illustrates just how poor a guide to the final positions a snapshot of an uncompleted season can be. Who'd have thought that this could happen when leagues are played to a conclusion ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sivad said: Dramatic final evening in the English Championship. All of the five sides that occupied the bottom five places in the table on the night of 2 July have stayed up - Luton, Barnsley, Stoke, Middlesbrough and Huddersfield. Particularly miraculous in the case of Luton, who took sixteen points from the final nine games to survive. Illustrates just how poor a guide to the final positions a snapshot of an uncompleted season can be. 34 minutes ago, gianlucatoni said: Who'd have thought that this could happen when leagues are played to a conclusion ... Exactly. They had the same problems we would have had with contracts etc, but they had the desire to play the season to a finish, our authorities couldn't wait to end it. As Barry Hearn said on Sunday sportsound if you don't finish a competition, the integrity of that competition has to be questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Auld Jag said: As far as i can make out the SPFL get the American company to do the fixtures. So no, they haven't sub contracted it to somebody who has then sub contracted to some other company to do it. Perhaps the use of the word 'sub-contracted' was wrong. I meant rather than do the work in-house the SPFL have put the work out to tender and have contracted this American company to do it! We are on the same wavelength! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Exactly. They had the same problems we would have had with contracts etc, but they had the desire to play the season to a finish, our authorities couldn't wait to end it. As Barry Hearn said on Sunday sportsound if you don't finish a competition, the integrity of that competition has to be questioned. I would like Batty Hearn to be the SPFL Commissioner. Although I suspect some might see him as a chancer, an opinion I wouldn't argue with, he has an excellent business pedigree in sport. He also has the strength of character to recognise the importance of Rangers and Celtic to Scottish Football (can't believe I said that) but not be intimidated by them! I also believe he would make decisions that would be good for the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, exiledjag said: I would like Batty Hearn to be the SPFL Commissioner. Although I suspect some might see him as a chancer, an opinion I wouldn't argue with, he has an excellent business pedigree in sport. He also has the strength of character to recognise the importance of Rangers and Celtic to Scottish Football (can't believe I said that) but not be intimidated by them! I also believe he would make decisions that would be good for the game! I am sure i read Hearn had done a talk with the Scottish football authorities a few years back and he told them they were not very good at their job and if he was in charge he would sack them all. Remember we still don't have a sponsor for our leagues or the Scottish cup. All we ever hear about is the brilliant new Sky deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: I am sure i read Hearn had done a talk with the Scottish football authorities a few years back and he told them they were not very good at their job and if he was in charge he would sack them all. Remember we still don't have a sponsor for our leagues or the Scottish cup. All we ever hear about is the brilliant new Sky deal. Yes, Hearn did a 'lecture' to an audience of Scottish Football Directors and Chief Executives. It was posted by one of members. Apologies I can't recall the poster. I think Hearn started his talk by saying something like "he doesnt know much about football but having looked at the figures and having no sponsor it seems neither do you" Would have liked to have been listening it to that 'talk'. Perhaps the original poster can add to/correct the above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Quite possibly. It requires some very specialised software to set the fixtures for a sporting season. There are not many companies in the world who can provide this service. Sorry, i just do not buy this. Very specialised software is what you need to land a spacecraft on the moon or do a brain operation robotically . It is not what you need to arrange a fixture list. I am sure that a first year compting science student could write a programme for this in less than a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emsca said: Sorry, i just do not buy this. Very specialised software is what you need to land a spacecraft on the moon or do a brain operation robotically . It is not what you need to arrange a fixture list. I am sure that a first year compting science student could write a programme for this in less than a day. On this one I can say that I am in the know. I help to support the cloud platform that they run on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: On this one I can say that I am in the know. I help to support the cloud platform that they run on. Is that the one the SPFLand SFA highheid yins have their heads in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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