javeajag Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Warning ....caveats .....no evidence .... rumours going round on twitter that we are on the verge of making a deal with the spfl ....the second part is that the spfl have been keen to do a deal but we have not make of that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGJags Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, javeajag said: Warning ....caveats .....no evidence .... rumours going round on twitter that we are on the verge of making a deal with the spfl ....the second part is that the spfl have been keen to do a deal but we have not make of that what you will Not surprised if true, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, javeajag said: Warning ....caveats .....no evidence .... rumours going round on twitter that we are on the verge of making a deal with the spfl ....the second part is that the spfl have been keen to do a deal but we have not make of that what you will For the benefit of those who don’t use Twitter, here are the relevant Tweets: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: Warning ....caveats .....no evidence .... rumours going round on twitter that we are on the verge of making a deal with the spfl ....the second part is that the spfl have been keen to do a deal but we have not make of that what you will Does it involve Bitcoin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Does it involve Bitcoin? What’s bitcoin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, javeajag said: What’s bitcoin ? Send Joe Biden some and he'll tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 I'm none the wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/15/twitter-elon-musk-joe-biden-hacked-bitcoin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/15/twitter-elon-musk-joe-biden-hacked-bitcoin Thanks. I actually meant I was none the wiser about the arbitration but I suppose you could argue that this is more important in the big scheme of things. But regarding these 4th official tweets. Has he just made up a rumour that there is a rumour so that people will pay for his pattereoni? Looks a wee bit that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, allyo said: Thanks. I actually meant I was none the wiser about the arbitration but I suppose you could argue that this is more important in the big scheme of things. But regarding these 4th official tweets. Has he just made up a rumour that there is a rumour so that people will pay for his pattereoni? Looks a wee bit that way. Bonus points for probably being right and for making me laugh with pattereoni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Re this rumour about a deal! I can only guess that if there is any truth in this then it means we (Hearts & Thistle) have accepted demotion and are looking at a financial settlement. I would have thought the primary objective and condition for a settlement would for both clubs be: 1. The reinstatement of both clubs to their respective divisions, and 2. The immediate withdrawal of the SFA's breach of Articles of Association charge (going to Court without the SFA's permission) Would acceptence of demotion and a financial settlement not means both clubs facing a backlash from fans? I don't see any of the above happening so think this is just what it is - a rumour! Anyway why would the SPFL want to settle when we know from reliable opinion on this thread that we have no chance of winning! If SPFL do want to settle then it can only be because their 'dirty laundry' must really be a 'health and safety hazard'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 hours ago, admin said: Any excuse to post some classic Harrison. Best post on the thread by far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 hours ago, javeajag said: on the other hand who knew librarians could be so arrogant Oh dear @javeajag, your standards are slipping even further. Just remember we are all Jags fans eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, exiledjag said: Re this rumour about a deal! I can only guess that if there is any truth in this then it means we (Hearts & Thistle) have accepted demotion and are looking at a financial settlement. I would have thought the primary objective and condition for a settlement would for both clubs be: 1. The reinstatement of both clubs to their respective divisions, and 2. The immediate withdrawal of the SFA's breach of Articles of Association charge (going to Court without the SFA's permission) Would acceptence of demotion and a financial settlement not means both clubs facing a backlash from fans? I don't see any of the above happening so think this is just what it is - a rumour! Anyway why would the SPFL want to settle when we know from reliable opinion on this thread that we have no chance of winning! If SPFL do want to settle then it can only be because their 'dirty laundry' must really be a 'health and safety hazard'! There may have been an offer of financial recompense but It won't even be in the jurisdiction of the SPFL to offer number 2. The money may be of sufficient amount to make the two chairs think it would be the best they can get. That would mean they'd need to find some pragmatism. Probably a rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, scotty said: There may have been an offer of financial recompense but It won't even be in the jurisdiction of the SPFL to offer number 2. The money may be of sufficient amount to make the two chairs think it would be the best they can get. That would mean they'd need to find some pragmatism. Probably a rumour. A deal like this allows everyone to claim victory especially if the amount is “undisclosed” and the terms of settlement confidential . That’s where I expected this to end weeks ago. However, although I do think it’s where we might land I see a few problems with a deal 1. The amounts sought by the clubs in court papers is so high it possibly makes a deal more tricky. 2. The spfl balance sheet is technically insolvent. Ie it has more liabilities than assets so where does the money come from? 3 The answer to 2 is presumably out of future payments to the other clubs, thereby reducing their future payments In which case it would be brave if the executive to agree to this without formal consultation with all the member clubs if this is any substantial amount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, scotty said: There may have been an offer of financial recompense but It won't even be in the jurisdiction of the SPFL to offer number 2. The money may be of sufficient amount to make the two chairs think it would be the best they can get. That would mean they'd need to find some pragmatism. Probably a rumour. Yes you are quite correct about the withdrawal of the SFA Charge not being within the SPFL's influence. Equally neither is the ability to settle given they don't have any money! Which is why I think this news/twitter item is just a rumour. However there is absolutely no point is agreeing to settle and still facing the SFA Charge! Therefore as such a scenario, the opportunity to settle, represents a negotiation we could encourage the SPFL to 'talk: to the SFA saying''there is a chance to settle this dispute but the clubs are insisting you withdraw your Charge"! The SPFL could do this in one of the perfectly normal conversations between two 'related' footballing organisations! Alternatively the SPFL could ask that 'ace' negotiator John Nelms to help them with this tricky and sensitive situation! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 13 hours ago, javeajag said: on the other hand who knew librarians could be so arrogant Oops, misread that. For a brief moment I thought you were branching out into astrology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Oops, misread that. For a brief moment I thought you were branching out into astrology. I think some of his predictions about our Club come from the school of Mystic Meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, jaf said: A deal like this allows everyone to claim victory especially if the amount is “undisclosed” and the terms of settlement confidential . That’s where I expected this to end weeks ago. However, although I do think it’s where we might land I see a few problems with a deal 1. The amounts sought by the clubs in court papers is so high it possibly makes a deal more tricky. 2. The spfl balance sheet is technically insolvent. Ie it has more liabilities than assets so where does the money come from? 3 The answer to 2 is presumably out of future payments to the other clubs, thereby reducing their future payments In which case it would be brave if the executive to agree to this without formal consultation with all the member clubs if this is any substantial amount I agree especially with point 1. It seems to have misjudged the mood of the other clubs and the SPFL if a settlement was what was hoped for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 From the 4th official ....who also says rumours of a deal are incorrect Arbitration starting Monday. Procedural meeting yesterday was of 90 mins. MSM report it will take 2 days to finish wrong. Hearts definitely calling witnesses. Not too hard to deduce who it will be. Also Hearts not worried about SFA notice of complaint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Well it seems the Arbitration actually started on Friday........ and nobody knew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Lawwell back on the spfl board this Monday. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/peter-lawwell-set-join-spfl-22376646.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, elevenone said: Lawwell back on the spfl board this Monday. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/peter-lawwell-set-join-spfl-22376646.amp Was he ever really off it !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, elevenone said: Lawwell back on the spfl board this Monday. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/peter-lawwell-set-join-spfl-22376646.amp blue and green filth toggle members on spfl board every year... it supports the speculative notion that the SPFL is in orbit around the arse cheeks Edited July 18, 2020 by gianlucatoni typo - motion to notion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 8:35 AM, jaf said: A deal like this allows everyone to claim victory especially if the amount is “undisclosed” and the terms of settlement confidential . That’s where I expected this to end weeks ago. However, although I do think it’s where we might land I see a few problems with a deal 1. The amounts sought by the clubs in court papers is so high it possibly makes a deal more tricky. 2. The spfl balance sheet is technically insolvent. Ie it has more liabilities than assets so where does the money come from? 3 The answer to 2 is presumably out of future payments to the other clubs, thereby reducing their future payments In which case it would be brave if the executive to agree to this without formal consultation with all the member clubs if this is any substantial amount Yer man Jimmy Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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