javeajag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: I’ll have lunch in their house thanks The reason we have these restrictions right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: PLZ Soccer @PLZSoccer · 2h NEWS PLZ Soccer understands Scottish League One and League Two sides have 7 days to respond to the SPFL board on whether they are able to start the season and fulfill their fixtures. I honestly can’t see it going ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, javeajag said: The reason we have these restrictions right there No the risk is less me seeing my parents in their house than a crowded supermarket. And no dentist or WorldEconomicForum board member is going to tell me otherwise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: No the risk is less me seeing my parents in their house than a crowded supermarket. And no dentist or WorldEconomicForum board member is going to tell me otherwise Case rested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: I honestly can’t see it going ahead Got to agree with you , the SG haven’t got the financial clout to help Football Clubs , best solution is to probably mothball football clubs for a year or so , try and sort out a package for the players if they can . Same as any business if there is no revenue coming in , at least doing it that way there might be a chance Clubs survive. Trying to carry on will lead to Clubs going Bankrupt or going into Administration . Could maybe use Maxie and Doncaster’s salaries to help them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, dpj said: Ok - I can’t read all of it, but the bit I did see was about targeting the policy towards “protecting” the most vulnerable eg those in Care homes. How does it say they can protect them any better than currently ?People in care homes have been virtual prisoners for the last 6 months. They might get great care where they are but their freedom to choose anything has been taken away from them. If the rest of the article is in the same vain that’s not an acceptable different direction, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Pensioners sitting in a park or garden in October, November December?? Cafe or restaurant then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Closest cafe to my parents is 2 miles away in Asda, you honestly saying a family meeting in Asda is safer than meeting in their own home Now you are tying yourself up. Pubs should be kept open as they are better regulated than homes - but Asda cafes aren’t ? Your on shaky ground here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: No the risk is less me seeing my parents in their house than a crowded supermarket. And no dentist or WorldEconomicForum board member is going to tell me otherwise Before you go make sure you aren’t asymptomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Wonder how many fans we will lose through no attendance for a year, how many people will find other things to do on a saturday....Then again could say that for all clubs. Think a lot will be lost to the game sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Jamie Borthwick @jamiekborthwick · 3h Following crisis talks, the 30 lower league SPFL clubs say they're ready to start the 2020/21 season - but they have serious concerns over whether they can finish it; unless fans return, or there is a fresh cash injection to keep clubs afloat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Wonder how many fans we will lose through no attendance for a year, how many people will find other things to do on a saturday....Then again could say that for all clubs. Think a lot will be lost to the game sadly. I think there will be a lot of fans lost. The farce that ended last season and we are 3 weeks away from the new league season supposedly starting or it might not, doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: Now you are tying yourself up. Pubs should be kept open as they are better regulated than homes - but Asda cafes aren’t ? Your on shaky ground here. I never said pubs should be kept open, I stated closing at 10 or 12 makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: Before you go make sure you aren’t asymptomatic I get tested twice prior to travel, straight on return to Norway and 5 days later then I’m free to go back in the office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: I think there will be a lot of fans lost. The farce that ended last season and we are 3 weeks away from the new league season supposedly starting or it might not, doesn't help. The longer term impact to the club could be devastating. The longer fans are away the less likely they are to return, kids aren’t being introduced and older fans may not return till they believe it’s safe. Even with the “trials” done at county and Aberdeen doesn’t really make it an enjoyable experience, sit on your own, with a mask, no singing, no standing up, no banter with your mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: I never said pubs should be kept open, I stated closing at 10 or 12 makes no difference. This. It's running rampant in the community again - school kids are off in droves (about 10% off in our secondary this week & a mate teaching in a primary on the southside has 3 whole year groups off isolating) & just have a gander at the Murano student village up the road just a stone's throw from Firhill with nearly 200 positive cases. Doesn't suit the SG or Tory narrative to close down schools/unis though - keep the bug factories open at all costs & lay the blame elsewhere with people spreading it at home and shutting pubs down at 10pm is just laughable - it's a total crock of PR sh*t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 So two items on the news tonight .... 1 the virus is mutating to be more virulent 2 the virus and winter flu a more deadly combination both in sky news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, gianlucatoni said: This. It's running rampant in the community again - school kids are off in droves (about 10% off in our secondary this week & a mate teaching in a primary on the southside has 3 whole year groups off isolating) & just have a gander at the Murano student village up the road just a stone's throw from Firhill with nearly 200 positive cases. Doesn't suit the SG or Tory narrative to close down schools/unis though - keep the bug factories open at all costs & lay the blame elsewhere with people spreading it at home and shutting pubs down at 10pm is just laughable - it's a total crock of PR sh*t. Total drivel So let’s move to what you would do ..... Edited September 25, 2020 by javeajag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Norgethistle said: I get tested twice prior to travel, straight on return to Norway and 5 days later then I’m free to go back in the office Is a test a guarantee that you don’t have it by the time you get to your parents ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 hours ago, javeajag said: Total drivel So let’s move to what you would do ..... I think he is saying shut the schools/Unis and keep the pubs open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Lenziejag said: Is a test a guarantee that you don’t have it by the time you get to your parents ? As I am in quarantine from test 1 to 2 prior to travel, have to wear a mask when traveling, need to drive alone, under Norwegian rules it is. We have 2 levels of distancing quarantine and self isolation, on return and prior to travel Quarantine when you are waiting for 2nd test where you can go for a walk, stay in your family unit (they do not need to quarantine or self isolate), can only enter a grocery or pharmacy with a mask (no other shops, bars or restaurants), and work from home. The other is self isolation which is on positive test (awaiting a second proof test for false positive, or after second proof test where still positive), where you isolate in your house and garden from rest of society and are not allowed out except to get your weekly test, family unit then goes quarantine unless testing positive. Normal Norwegian protocol on return is test at airport then quarantine for 10 days, if no symptoms return to work on day 11, if you’ve been traveling for work then you do as I am, with 2nd test on day 5 and back to work on day 6. Getting a test here takes 1 hour from calling, with results back within 12 usually, unlike UK they put the swab up your nose and on your throat, where in UK they hand you the swab to do it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: As I am in quarantine from test 1 to 2 prior to travel, have to wear a mask when traveling, need to drive alone, under Norwegian rules it is. We have 2 levels of distancing quarantine and self isolation, on return and prior to travel Quarantine when you are waiting for 2nd test where you can go for a walk, stay in your family unit (they do not need to quarantine or self isolate), can only enter a grocery or pharmacy with a mask (no other shops, bars or restaurants), and work from home. The other is self isolation which is on positive test (awaiting a second proof test for false positive, or after second proof test where still positive), where you isolate in your house and garden from rest of society and are not allowed out except to get your weekly test, family unit then goes quarantine unless testing positive. Normal Norwegian protocol on return is test at airport then quarantine for 10 days, if no symptoms return to work on day 11, if you’ve been traveling for work then you do as I am, with 2nd test on day 5 and back to work on day 6. Getting a test here takes 1 hour from calling, with results back within 12 usually, unlike UK they put the swab up your nose and on your throat, where in UK they hand you the swab to do it yourself. Doesn't look like that from every clip of folk getting tested that I've seen, including Thistle players getting tested at Firhill. But don't let facts get in your way. I probably speak for others when I say "we understand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Doesn't look like that from every clip of folk getting tested that I've seen, including Thistle players getting tested at Firhill. But don't let facts get in your way. I probably speak for others when I say "we understand." Well they do at the Dunbarton test centre, my mum had to go and get one 2 weeks ago due to having a cold. That’s after they advised her to drive to Dundee for a test which she stated was outside her comfortable driving range. NHS Scotland website states you perform your own test (or your kids if under 11) unless you feel uncomfortable doing it in which case you can ask for someone to help They pass the bag through the cracked window with the kit inside, you open the bag test yourself (they do explain pretty well) you put the swabs in the tube, back in back and seal, they scan QR code on back through window then take the bag. She got negative result through a text just over a day later which was pretty good Thistle are being tested by their own medical staff, which is a requirement under SPFL protocols Edited September 26, 2020 by Norgethistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Well they do at the Dunbarton test centre, my mum had to go and get one 2 weeks ago due to having a cold. That’s after they advised her to drive to Dundee for a test which she stated was outside her comfortable driving range. NHS Scotland website states you perform your own test (or your kids if under 11) unless you feel uncomfortable doing it in which case you can ask for someone to help They pass the bag through the cracked window with the kit inside, you open the bag test yourself (they do explain pretty well) you put the swabs in the tube, back in back and seal, they scan QR code on back through window then take the bag. She got negative result through a text just over a day later which was pretty good Thistle are being tested by their own medical staff, which is a requirement under SPFL protocols I was told that the test was carried out by NHS staff unless patient is 11 or under. My 11 year old was tested twice. His mother had to perform both operations. First at Glasgow Airport and subsequently at Prestwick Airport. Neither had cracked windows so I don't think that's an essential part of the process. The first test was unclear. Results, in both cases, arrived within 12 hours. I would imagine that tests performed by untrained parents are quite likely to fail. Probably a lot of testing, processing and admin time is being wasted along with the precious test equipment. He was at the dentist two days after and I wasn't expected to prod about with the torture implements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 It looks like Championship and League 1 clubs want to proceed with league games. SPFL want to fine teams that subsequently pull out of their commitments. League 2 and below want to mothball. 7 days to decide. I had the concern that League clubs would not want to go ahead, but they now have another 6 days to change their minds. (Dailly Mail linked article from Today's Gossip column in BBC Scottish football section.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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