ClydebankJag Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Interesting that QOS are signing up youth players, including this freed Jag, on amateur contracts. Exploiting youngsters keen to stay in the game, or a practical move to see if players have it in them to earn a professional contract? http://www.qosfc.com/news-5174 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Looking at transfer market.co.uk the squad values are listed. (By no means a perfect comparison, but still useful.) Thistle 20 players £2.45 million squad value. Falkirk 18 players £1.58 million squad value. Queens Park 15 players £1.76 million squad value. QOS 10 players £1.37 million squad value. This for a team that recently received a significant sell on sum for Lyndon Dykes transfer, a team a league aboveThistle and Falkirk, and two above QP. This to me is a club in desperate straits. Signing amateur players ,to me, smacks of desperation. I think I'm right in that senior amateur players can sign professional at any stage, despite transfer windows. I do stand to be corrected on that. Our Betfred Cup game against QOS could be an indication (for both teams) of the season to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 hours ago, East Kent Jag II said: Looking at transfer market.co.uk the squad values are listed. (By no means a perfect comparison, but still useful.) Thistle 20 players £2.45 million squad value. Falkirk 18 players £1.58 million squad value. Queens Park 15 players £1.76 million squad value. QOS 10 players £1.37 million squad value. This for a team that recently received a significant sell on sum for Lyndon Dykes transfer, a team a league aboveThistle and Falkirk, and two above QP. This to me is a club in desperate straits. Signing amateur players ,to me, smacks of desperation. I think I'm right in that senior amateur players can sign professional at any stage, despite transfer windows. I do stand to be corrected on that. Our Betfred Cup game against QOS could be an indication (for both teams) of the season to come. What is the criteria for comparing good or bad value ? Is it the total value of the squad; the total number in the squad or the value per squad member ? And is high good or bad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I did say squad values are not perfect. However I was trying to look at the preparedness of teams with the limited info available. No friendlies yet, with competitive football just over 4 weeks away. The complete unpreparedness of QOS is what struck my eye. They haven't even got a full team, and (perhaps deliberately) are leaving it rather late. Maybe they are looking for bargains, but also they may be skint. I wouldn't read any more into it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, East Kent Jag II said: I did say squad values are not perfect. However I was trying to look at the preparedness of teams with the limited info available. No friendlies yet, with competitive football just over 4 weeks away. The complete unpreparedness of QOS is what struck my eye. They haven't even got a full team, and (perhaps deliberately) are leaving it rather late. Maybe they are looking for bargains, but also they may be skint. I wouldn't read any more into it than that. I wasn’t trying to question the use of those examples. I really was asking how to assess the numbers. I think QOS basically put the club in mothballs over the last 6 months - so they are starting from scratch pretty much. I agree it doesn’t seem like a good strategy they are adopting this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Reading back on my posts, my writing style may come across wrong. I come in peace - I'll leave the sparring to the Covid debate!! Squad value divided by the squad number will give a more realistic value. But in our squad, the site has Sena as zero value! Now there's a bargain for somebody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 I guess the higher average value over the squad would suggest a better overall squad. QOS average is the highest of the 4, but that would probably be down to high values for Dobbie and maybe Fitzpatrick? Only guessing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: I guess the higher average value over the squad would suggest a better overall squad. QOS average is the highest of the 4, but that would probably be down to high values for Dobbie and maybe Fitzpatrick? Only guessing here. My mistake, it's transfermarket.com Left back Kevin Holt at £300,000; Dobbie at £250,000 then Fitzpatrick Pybus &Shields all at £200,000. So you're right that Dobbie & Fitzpatrick are in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 9:31 PM, East Kent Jag II said: Looking at transfer market.co.uk the squad values are listed. (By no means a perfect comparison, but still useful.) Thistle 20 players £2.45 million squad value. Falkirk 18 players £1.58 million squad value. Queens Park 15 players £1.76 million squad value. QOS 10 players £1.37 million squad value. This for a team that recently received a significant sell on sum for Lyndon Dykes transfer, a team a league aboveThistle and Falkirk, and two above QP. This to me is a club in desperate straits. Signing amateur players ,to me, smacks of desperation. I think I'm right in that senior amateur players can sign professional at any stage, despite transfer windows. I do stand to be corrected on that. Our Betfred Cup game against QOS could be an indication (for both teams) of the season to come. Or a club that doesn’t want to waste money on a season that either won’t start at is delayed date, won’t start at all, or won’t go the distance and may not have paying fans in. They may be acting sensibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Or a club that doesn’t want to waste money on a season that either won’t start at is delayed date, won’t start at all, or won’t go the distance and may not have paying fans in. They may be acting sensibly Or it could be that targets they wanted signed elsewhere. They signed Ayo Obilaye on Wednesday, so despite the recent covid setback in the UK (no doubt to be discussed on another thread), it seems they are still putting a squad together! Edited September 11, 2020 by East Kent Jag II spelling correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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