Thistle88 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Wonder if Mcdaid will be someone we are looking at, dont see him making the step up with Dundee and McCalls always liked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thistle88 said: Wonder if Mcdaid will be someone we are looking at, dont see him making the step up with Dundee and McCalls always liked him. If we get Tiffoney we won't need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: If we get Tiffoney we won't need him. Both McDaid and Tiffoney were signed in the January window before the season was suspended then Dundee decided to recall him. erskine was signed then as McDaids replacement. It’s not impossible that he will be here certainly. We have also lost cardle. So I do think McCall will be looking at other attackers/wingers Edited May 24, 2021 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: Both McDaid and Tiffoney were signed in the January window before the season was suspended then Dundee decided to recall him erskine was signed then as McDaids replacement. It’s not impossible that he will be here certainly Personally I wouldn't take him, but this is McCall we are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Was reported in yesterday’s daily record was it not? Wonder if his dad will tell him how great a club Thistle is from his time at Firhill. Edited May 24, 2021 by Garscube Road End 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Personally I wouldn't take him, but this is McCall we are talking about. I think he would be a decent option but I’m sure McCall will be looking at various options would be delighted if we got Kyle Turner but if hearts are genuinely linked then can’t see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, Garscube Road End 2 said: Wonder if his dad will tell him how great a club Thistle is from his time at Firhill. You mind read my future post lol hope Tommy sells it to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle88 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: If we get Tiffoney we won't need him. We need more than one winger/attacking midfielder in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thistle88 said: We need more than one winger/attacking midfielder in. I have absolutely no idea if we are but I hope we are looking at Luke Mccowan who is highly rated at Ay and worked with McCall there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) My problem with McDaid is his lack of goalscoring. He's often played left and you'd expect a goal or two from him cutting in. Also I think his decision making can be a bit wonky. Maybe with more intense coaching he could improve. No doubt if we sign him he'd be a decent enough squad player but you really want a bit more from your wide players. An impact sub at least. Edited May 24, 2021 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 I can't think why we would want to sign McDaid. He wasn't a success in his earlier spell with us and he doesn't appear to have improved significantly since leaving Firhill. On the wider front and with tonight's result next season's Championship participants are now decided! Not in any order: Kilmarnock, Hamilton, Raith, Dunfermline, Inverness CT, Queen of the South, Morton, Ayr, Arbroath, Partick. It looks very competitive Can we win this league or at least finish in the top 4? The SPL also looks very competitive below the expected top 2. Assuming Ross County strengthen their squad there is no obvious candidate for relegation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Not McDaid! He’s no Kevin Nisbet. No pace. Unable to beat a man. Poor delivery. Tiffoney is way, way better. McCowan yes. But is he under contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 I would assume we are not going to get much more news on the signing front until 31st May. I think thats when most player contracts expire. I would have thought someone like Steven Bell is a done deal but unable to sign until his contract with East Kilbride expires? Also do we have to wait for the summer transfer window to open on June 9th to sign players like Tiffoney who would command a development fee? I think the transfer market this summer is going to be really strange. There are so many managerial vacancies in the championship and lower end of the premier league that players must be wondering if its better to go with an early offer or hold off for bigger money. Not really a big fan of McDaid. Assuming we sign Tiffoney we need a winger capable of crossing the ball to Graham to contrast against Tiffoney's direct running and cutbacks. Whilst McDaid may be able to last 90 minutes better than Cardle, Cardle's delivery looked better than McDaids. I struggle to see how McDaid would be a huge upgrade on Cardle. However if McDaid does sign I'll be happy to be proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 McCall looking for 2000 season ticket holders for new season. Link to article. https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/19324154.partick-thistle-manager-ian-mccall-targets-2000-season-tickets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: Not McDaid! He’s no Kevin Nisbet. No pace. Unable to beat a man. Poor delivery. Tiffoney is way, way better. McCowan yes. But is he under contract? Mccowan is out of contract with Ayr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 8 hours ago, exiledjag said: Can we win this league or at least finish in the top 4? If you look at how easily Morton put away Airdrie, there is a big jump in standard between League One and the Championship. Anything 8th or above would be a great success. Without a massive investment, or a lot of luck, back to back promotion is pie in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) On 5/22/2021 at 10:43 AM, exiledjag said: Thanks for making my point re regular stream of Academy youngsters progressing to the first team! If you are referring to the Scotland Squad for the European Championship then you are highlighting O'Donnell, Henry & Nisbet! Firstly, SOD wasn't a product of our Academy. He was signed from Annan Athletic. Secondly, Henry I suppose could be described as a product of the Academy though I am uncertain how long the Academy had been running and at which point he actually joined the Academy. It makes no difference because as far as I recall he never played for the first team or if he did it must only have been a rare appearance. Finally, I will give you Nisbet! He did come through the Academy but was never convincing as a first team player. The question with this player given what was going on inside his head at the time is " did he fail us or did we fail him" as he certainly had the potential to be a first team regular. Surprised you haven't mentioned Liam Lindsay notwithstanding he is not in the Scotland Squad. Similar to Henry I am not sure of his Academy pedigree but as a young player coming through to being a first team player he was IMO a success! However the above examples could hardly be described as a "stream of young players progressing to the first team" so far! As I said perhaps just a matter of time! My point in mentioning O'Donnell, Nesbit and Hendry is that Thistle had a major part to play in all their early careers. Whether that was called the Thistle Weir Academy, or went under some previous name is irrelevant, their development was through the Thistle ranks. The fact that they some didn't play much for the first team before going onto bigger and better things, is not the fault of the youth structure, who are clearly developing the players. I see it more of a comment on a succession of managers that for whatever reason are not able to exploit that resource, and a board who are desperate to cash in on any young talent that they can. The second point is probably the more important. Any young player that comes through the academy and into the 1st team is immediately going to become a target for the bigger fish, Lindsey, Hendry and Fitzpatrick being prime examples. Don't get me wrong, I fully support the Academy and I'm very proud that there are 3 former Jags in the Scotland squad, but I don't expect it to be generating many players for our own 1st team Edited May 25, 2021 by Dick Dastardly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle88 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, elevenone said: McCall looking for 2000 season ticket holders for new season. Link to article. https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/19324154.partick-thistle-manager-ian-mccall-targets-2000-season-tickets/ The comment someone has made on that article the I don’t have a girlfriend one made me laugh Edited May 25, 2021 by Thistle88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 I believe we are talking to Luke McCowan of Ayr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Reilly away https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/charlie-reilly-leaves-the-club/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, jaggymct said: I believe we are talking to Luke McCowan of Ayr Please don’t base that on what I said mate- I said I hope we would but have no actual information that we were would be a great signing if we could get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Please don’t base that on what I said mate- I said I hope we would but have no actual information that we were would be a great signing if we could get him I have been told we have been looking at him from a reliable source but i am sure he has a few other suitors too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: If you look at how easily Morton put away Airdrie, there is a big jump in standard between League One and the Championship. Anything 8th or above would be a great success. Without a massive investment, or a lot of luck, back to back promotion is pie in the sky. How did raith rovers manage to make the transition to challenge? Certainly wasn't massive investment. To be honest its impossible to second guess how we may do, but I'm not so sure the gap is that great. Nb I suspect airdrie were just goosed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: If you look at how easily Morton put away Airdrie, there is a big jump in standard between League One and the Championship. Anything 8th or above would be a great success. Without a massive investment, or a lot of luck, back to back promotion is pie in the sky. While Airdrie were indeed dispatched with some ease, Montrose were not- that was a close tie that took a late Morton winner after losing the first leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: My point in mentioning O'Donnell, Nesbit and Hendry is that Thistle had a major part to play in all their early careers. Whether that was called the Thistle Weir Academy, or went under some previous name is irrelevant, their development was through the Thistle ranks. The fact that they some didn't play much for the first team before going onto bigger and better things, is not the fault of the youth structure, who are clearly developing the players. I see it more of a comment on a succession of managers that for whatever reason are not able to exploit that resource, and a board who are desperate to cash in on any young talent that they can. The second point is probably the more important. Any young player that comes through the academy and into the 1st team is immediately going to become a target for the bigger fish, Lindsey, Hendry and Fitzpatrick being prime examples. Don't get me wrong, I fully support the Academy and I'm very proud that there are 3 former Jags in the Scotland squad, but I don't expect it to be generating many players for our own 1st team A good coherent appraisal and I am in agreement with nearly all of the points you make. I question your final point about the academy not generating players for the first team squad! I would have thought that was the principal reason for having an Academy in the first place. I do though recognise that the transfer market is changing in so much that at the top end of the game the elite clubs in England and Europe regularly buy young players from other clubs' Academy's! As this is a developing market perhaps this becomes another main reason for having an Academy and as such reinforces your final point. Personally I would like to think that the Jags can improve to the point where we can hold onto our good Academy players for at least a couple of seasons after graduating to the First Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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