Arete Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 Norge, I'll DM you my name too. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deco City Jag Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Add my name to growing list Andy Newey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnock Jag Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Please add my name also : Billy Gow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jag71 Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 And please add myself, Norge Thanks for your and the group's work on this. I'll send you a DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Looking forward to seeing the updated list of names on Monday, it seems that our chairman has managed to unite our fans but not in the way she intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said: Looking forward to seeing the updated list of names on Monday, it seems that our chairman has managed to unite our fans but not in the way she intended. Doesn't matter what we do, she doesn't give a flying **** what we think or want. It's all about her and her patsy Britton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Nearly 600 fans now Get in touch if you are missing but want included. This is incredible numbers from OUR fan base for OUR club 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Nearly 600 fans now Get in touch if you are missing but want included. This is incredible numbers from OUR fan base for OUR club Fantastic effort. Shows the depth of feeling now among Jags fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robphil Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Please add Robert Philip. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 This is great stuff @Norgethistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Jag Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 12:00 AM, Arete said: Norge, I'll DM you my name too. Cheers Please add my name Alistair Gray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Jag Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Please add me name to the letter Alistair Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscat Jag Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Alan Cameron. Please add, thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Sorry, I may a bit slow to comprehend, but what is the point of this (before I add my name), and how is it different to what has been going on until now, other than "I'm not happy (our team's performances are crap), so I'm protesting"? How many of the 600 or so ("Add my name!") signatories would for example deliver 100 quid towards "the cause", and how many of them in fact know what "the cause" is, other than Low/Britton/McCall out -- Delete as appropriate? In other words, is this just the modern-day equivalent of old-time banner protests and heckling at the main entrance to the Firhill, because results are poor? But online gives it a new gravitas? It certainly seems like a popular cause, but for what.... is it simply for, "clarification?" If it's about potential liabilities and hidden costs, then why not make that explicit, and then let's see the real level of support among the signatories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 My take on this @Jaggernaut is that’s about making sure 3BC/Club Board do actually follow through on Colin Weirs wishes. Simple to me. The 3BC media statement recently was appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Sorry, I may a bit slow to comprehend, but what is the point of this (before I add my name), and how is it different to what has been going on until now, other than "I'm not happy (our team's performances are crap), so I'm protesting"? How many of the 600 or so ("Add my name!") signatories would for example deliver 100 quid towards "the cause", and how many of them in fact know what "the cause" is, other than Low/Britton/McCall out -- Delete as appropriate? In other words, is this just the modern-day equivalent of old-time banner protests and heckling at the main entrance to the Firhill, because results are poor? But online gives it a new gravitas? It certainly seems like a popular cause, but for what.... is it simply for, "clarification?" If it's about potential liabilities and hidden costs, then why not make that explicit, and then let's see the real level of support among the signatories. Read the statement again. Its pretty clear on the motivation. It mentions nothing about the team performance so where you have gauged this is mystifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Jaggernaut: We are a group of independent fans. We are not The Jags Foundation, though some of us were previously involved in its work in official and other capacities. The purpose of this letter is to seek clarity and transparency. It’s not the end game: it’s about getting the rules of the game out in the open. It’s our view that the Club and 3BC have failed to explain with any clarity why it is they no longer think The Jags Foundation is a suitable vehicle to transfer the shares to, having previously committed to a timeline of summer 2022 barely six months ago. It is our view that, for all that it has made some tactical errors (for example having initially tried not to rock the boat over due diligence) the Jags Foundation remains the only and the best vehicle through which to deliver fan control and fan ownership. The purpose of this letter is to make clear to 3BC that it is not acceptable to the wider fanbase that this process drags out indefinitely, or that it leads to an outcome which is not fan ownership, or sham fan ownership. That is all we are asking of other fans at the moment. We absolutely encourage people to sign up to The Jags Foundation, and although they’re pausing Direct Debits in time that will bring significant revenue that the Foundation can bring to the Club. But the problem right now is that Three Black Cats won’t even tell us what level of financial commitment is needed from a fan owned body to ensure Thistle runs well at break even. We cannot answer that question without due diligence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: Jaggernaut: We are a group of independent fans. We are not The Jags Foundation, though some of us were previously involved in its work in official and other capacities. The purpose of this letter is to seek clarity and transparency. It’s not the end game: it’s about getting the rules of the game out in the open. It’s our view that the Club and 3BC have failed to explain with any clarity why it is they no longer think The Jags Foundation is a suitable vehicle to transfer the shares to, having previously committed to a timeline of summer 2022 barely six months ago. It is our view that, for all that it has made some tactical errors (for example having initially tried not to rock the boat over due diligence) the Jags Foundation remains the only and the best vehicle through which to deliver fan control and fan ownership. The purpose of this letter is to make clear to 3BC that it is not acceptable to the wider fanbase that this process drags out indefinitely, or that it leads to an outcome which is not fan ownership, or sham fan ownership. That is all we are asking of other fans at the moment. We absolutely encourage people to sign up to The Jags Foundation, and although they’re pausing Direct Debits in time that will bring significant revenue that the Foundation can bring to the Club. But the problem right now is that Three Black Cats won’t even tell us what level of financial commitment is needed from a fan owned body to ensure Thistle runs well at break even. We cannot answer that question without due diligence. I couldn’t have put this any better. Basically 3BC be open with what you want as the model for fan ownership, one has been presented (same as Motherwell, Hearts, Exeter, Wimbledon to name a few), which was rejected. Let us know what you want, and if reasonable we can either present it or work towards it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Sorry, I may a bit slow to comprehend, but what is the point of this (before I add my name), and how is it different to what has been going on until now, other than "I'm not happy (our team's performances are crap), so I'm protesting"? How many of the 600 or so ("Add my name!") signatories would for example deliver 100 quid towards "the cause", and how many of them in fact know what "the cause" is, other than Low/Britton/McCall out -- Delete as appropriate? In other words, is this just the modern-day equivalent of old-time banner protests and heckling at the main entrance to the Firhill, because results are poor? But online gives it a new gravitas? It certainly seems like a popular cause, but for what.... is it simply for, "clarification?" If it's about potential liabilities and hidden costs, then why not make that explicit, and then let's see the real level of support among the signatories. Nowhere on that statement does it mention donations or removal of folk. What we ask is let us know what rules we’re playing too, what “model” is required and why does the model presented not work. We are all engaged, all willing to push on a work with everyone to get this over the goal line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Juggernaut- one of the points made by the 3BC statement was that the Jags Foundation doesn't have the support of the wider fan base, presumably in order to sideline the question of fan ownership. Personally, I added my name to the letter in order to contribute towards debunking that suggestion, so that a proper discussion on the subject can progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryc Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Please add me. Sorry for the delay Garry Connor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Thanks to Woodstock Jag and Norgethistle for their replies to my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 hours ago, garryc said: Please add me. Sorry for the delay Garry Connor Added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick in the basin Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 Sorry @Norgethistle been away and just catching up - please add me to the list @Mark Canning . Great effort by all concerned . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, sick in the basin said: Sorry @Norgethistle been away and just catching up - please add me to the list @Mark Canning . Great effort by all concerned . Added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.