Norgethistle Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 https://thejagsfoundation.co.uk/tjf-match-day-presence/?fbclid=IwAR3yOVsgyg65VRP4nri2cuoSV8xtPuGJwH6bdLBaBzvZebso8_h0xlzswCI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: https://thejagsfoundation.co.uk/tjf-match-day-presence/?fbclid=IwAR3yOVsgyg65VRP4nri2cuoSV8xtPuGJwH6bdLBaBzvZebso8_h0xlzswCI Oh Gerry, oh Gerry. Thats me done for this season, no more games. If you lock your elected fans organisation out, then hell mend you. Edited August 18, 2022 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Are the club actively trying to lose 750+ supporters? This is absolute stupidity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: They've spoken! The Finance Director, The Creative Consultant, The Optometrist, The Chartered Surveyor, The Contract Furnisher. And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind, let us rejoice and let us sing, and dance and ring in the new. Hail Atlantis! Very good. I'm not feeling Mellow Red & Yellow this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, sandy said: Oh Gerry, oh Gerry. Thats me done for this season, no more games. If you lock your elected fans organisation out, then hell mend you. Yep its an adios from me now too Gerry. Will go to the juniors instead for a footie fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Gosh - banning a popular supporters' organisation from your property. What a way to treat your customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 What would be the options for forming an FC Thistle of Patrick ? I know that we are no where near the size of the disgruntled Man Utd fans, but with a starting fan base of maybe 500, that would be decent in the Juniors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Pigs ear has now turned into a horse’s ar&e farce. Well done Thistle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I would say to Gerry and anyone expected to perform roles on matchday who are in TJF to think about this and the phrase "what you allow you encourage". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby Jag Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Think I'm done now until they are all gone. Will continue to pay into TJF and look forward to the EGM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I'm a season ticket holder but really don't feel like going tomorrow now. Feel bad about not getting behind the team but this farce is sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erty13 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 One of the new trustees works for Cushman and Wakefield, does he not advertise space to let for the club. I am sure they have a trackside board facing the JHS. Anybody else know of other connections the trustees have to the club / board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: https://thejagsfoundation.co.uk/tjf-match-day-presence/?fbclid=IwAR3yOVsgyg65VRP4nri2cuoSV8xtPuGJwH6bdLBaBzvZebso8_h0xlzswCI I assume the club will also be removing the advertising board TJF have paid for, have the club indicated if they will return the fee paid for this or do they like TJF's money just not their members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watties wallies Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 been told that one of them runs the pie stall in the main stand "get your macaroon bars here" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 3 Black Cats need to just be open and honest and say - we want to continue running this club, we think Colin Weir was wrong to suggest a Motherwell-style fan owned model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 TJF folks, any updates on opening communication with PTFC Trust? Dare you invite them to the Sept 1 meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Unbeliever Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said: I'm not quoting all of this for the sake of brevity but this is largely completely unfair on TJF individuals. This has always been 3BC ball and they were always going to dictate. It's not about hard nosed business people or otherwise. TJF have released a very reasonable document with a lot of very reasonable questions. The crucial questions which I would hope could be put to some of the individuals tomorrow evening are: 1. Who has the right to appoint/remove Trustees of the PTFC Trust? Clearly there has been some movement in this regard from the previously publicly available information. Previously, there were 3 "Supporters Trustees" and 3 "Director Trustees". We now have (as far as we're aware) 5 trustees of whom none are directors of PTFC Ltd (assuming there are not any as yet unregistered appointments). This to me is the most crucial question and gets to the heart of who controls the Trust. 2. How were the current Trustees appointed to the PTFC Trust? We know that none of the 5 Trustees who signed yesterday's (revised) statement were Trustees as at the last Deed of Variation which is available, dated in December 2019. For clarity, the six Trustees at that point were: Alan Caldwell, Andrew Byron, Gerry Britton (The Director Trustees), Euan Couperwhite, Robert Taylor and Gordon Shaw (The Supporters Trustees). When and how were the changes to the Trustees of the PTFC Trust made? What are the terms for resignation as a Trustee? Previously, there was a requirement for 3 months writing (or termination on ceasing to be a Director in the case of Director Trustees). 3. Are there any restrictions placed on the PTFC Trust's ability to exercise the voting rights attached to the 74.28% of shares that they hold (or will hold) by the Trust Deed or "Memorandum of Understanding?" Ties in closely to question 1 and is probably at least as pertinent if not more so. On this one I'd be interested in a legal opinion on the ability to restrict ownership of shares in such a way. Not sure if we have any corporate lawyers available? It may be that there are reasonable answers to these questions. Initial Trustees who were happy to not 'rock the boat' would be to an extent understandable if 3BC wanted to ensure that the model gets up and running without too much initial disruption. I'm trying to retain an open mind to the whole thing. However, without detailed answers to questions 1 and 3 above we cannot possibly be expected to blindly "Trust the Trust." I can envisage a situation where the Trust Deed now effectively sets up e.g. 2 Trustees to resign every 3 years. That effectively buys the Board 6 years before the Trust would not be controlled by the "Original" Trustees. That's about the most optimistic situation I can envisage along with no restrictions on voting rights. Since this is the first time I've posted on this for a while I'd also like to put on record my thanks to everyone who was involved in TJF at any stage and I truly hope that their commitment to the club manages to endure through this whole episode. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChiThistle said: TJF folks, any updates on opening communication with PTFC Trust? Dare you invite them to the Sept 1 meeting? They don’t have an email address so a tad difficult 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: They don’t have an email address so a tad difficult Do what they do - start sending random Twitter DMs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: They don’t have an email address so a tad difficult Message them on Twitter or Facebook … they won’t accept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Norgethistle said: https://thejagsfoundation.co.uk/tjf-match-day-presence/?fbclid=IwAR3yOVsgyg65VRP4nri2cuoSV8xtPuGJwH6bdLBaBzvZebso8_h0xlzswCI I'm a TJF member so if I attend the game then TJF have a presence. So am I no longer allowed to attend? I'm not a season ticket holder so are the club happy to forfeit the money I would have paid for entry? Mr Britton really needs to produce a statement on what he consent he is withdrawing and its going to require a seriously better PR person to write it than JLow. I had up until now hoped that this mess was only of JLow's making but with recent actions Britton and Rough have firmly tied their colours to her mast. It would appear David Beattie was right about JLow. Would it be possible for TJF to contact Mr Beattie to see if he could assist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 To be fair to him, Gerry Britton is a paid employee. I expect that he has a family to feed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 What did Beattie say about Low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, laukat said: I'm a TJF member so if I attend the game then TJF have a presence. So am I no longer allowed to attend? I'm not a season ticket holder so are the club happy to forfeit the money I would have paid for entry? Mr Britton really needs to produce a statement on what he consent he is withdrawing and its going to require a seriously better PR person to write it than JLow. I had up until now hoped that this mess was only of JLow's making but with recent actions Britton and Rough have firmly tied their colours to her mast. It would appear David Beattie was right about JLow. Would it be possible for TJF to contact Mr Beattie to see if he could assist? Our board will (as always) be in the ground as fans, happy to chat to anyone. We’re not allowed though to set up a table banners or have an official presence on club property Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, eljaggo said: What did Beattie say about Low? Jacqui Low out, David Beattie in as Partick Thistle confirm takeover approach | The Scottish Sun At the time there were various comments similar to the above article all raising concerns on how the club was being run by JLow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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