jaggy Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 I’m not a fan of these awards, but congratulations to my hero and all time Jags legend big Scruffie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, jaggy said: I’m not a fan of these awards, but congratulations to my hero and all time Jags legend big Scruffie For his time at Celtic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Sky Sports in the pub saying it’s an MBE that Roughie got. Not sure which is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: For his time at Celtic? Why would I be a fan of his time at Celtic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, sandy said: Sky Sports in the pub saying it’s an MBE that Roughie got. Not sure which is correct BBC quotes both on different articles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, jaggy said: Why would I be a fan of his time at Celtic? Oh. Never mind. Woosh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Oh. Never mind. Woosh! Talking shite as usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said: I am with you. The Order of the British Empire, should’ve been confined to history long ago, along with MBE, CBE, knighthoods etc. I’d have been more impressed with AR if he’d turned it down, as others have done in the past. Personal view. My feelings too. Except I suppose turning it down can be seen by some to be a political gesture. Putting that aside the questions I'd ask would be why wasn't Roughy given the award 30-40 years ago? And if he wasn't worthy of an award then what's Alan done since that makes him merit one now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 hours ago, jaggy said: Talking shite as usual? Aww! Hit a raw nerve there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: My feelings too. Except I suppose turning it down can be seen by some to be a political gesture. Putting that aside the questions I'd ask would be why wasn't Roughy given the award 30-40 years ago? And if he wasn't worthy of an award then what's Alan done since that makes him merit one now? For services to broadcasting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago1953 Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 15 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: My feelings too. Except I suppose turning it down can be seen by some to be a political gesture. Putting that aside the questions I'd ask would be why wasn't Roughy given the award 30-40 years ago? And if he wasn't worthy of an award then what's Alan done since that makes him merit one now? When will you drop your title Isobel? A little bit hypocritical using a title . Congratulations to Roughie on a richly deserved M.B.E. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 15 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: My feelings too. Except I suppose turning it down can be seen by some to be a political gesture. Putting that aside the questions I'd ask would be why wasn't Roughy given the award 30-40 years ago? And if he wasn't worthy of an award then what's Alan done since that makes him merit one now? Apparently it is for charity work in addition to his football career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Apparently it is for charity work in addition to his football career. Ta for that. No excuse really but I posted my comments last night after 5 hours in the pub. Not in great mood after the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I don't see any issue with this. I have an MBE, but it is self awarded and stands for My Belly Enormous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 Airdrie were awarded an OBE in that 7-0 game at Firhill in 2012 Overwhelmed By Erskine 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) I know one Jags fan who politely... ahem... declined an "Empire"-related gong. The whole shebang reeks of class discrimination, and it's one of the Establishment's ways of reinforcing that. Edited June 3, 2022 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 The vast majority of the Queens birthday honours go to ordinary people. It’s just the celebrities that get in the news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 The whole system like the Monarchy is an utter embarrassing disgrace…..like P Andrew’s award for child services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: The vast majority of the Queens birthday honours go to ordinary people. It’s just the celebrities that get in the news Yeah, and the ordinary people are put in their place, precisely as "ordinary people." No knighthoods, damehoods, or whatever for "ordinary people'. Those are reserved for the superior classes, the rich and famous. The ordinary people might (if they're lucky) get a mention in a wee list somewhere in an insignificant local newspaper, maybe even photographed in the presence (somewhere) of the Queen's Lieutenant (or something) who is busy mosying up to somebody with more potential influence. Check on eBay: you can get some of those "Empire" gongs for peanuts. It's all sh*te. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Yeah, and the ordinary people are put in their place, precisely as "ordinary people." No knighthoods, damehoods, or whatever for "ordinary people'. Those are reserved for the superior classes, the rich and famous. The ordinary people might (if they're lucky) get a mention in a wee list somewhere in an insignificant local newspaper, maybe even photographed in the presence (somewhere) of the Queen's Lieutenant (or something) who is busy mosying up to somebody with more potential influence. Check on eBay: you can get some of those "Empire" gongs for peanuts. It's all sh*te. Fair enough - you don’t like the establishment. However, I am pretty sure the “ordinary people” are delighted to be recognised for what they do out of the “ordinary”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Fair enough - you don’t like the establishment. However, I am pretty sure the “ordinary people” are delighted to be recognised for what they do out of the “ordinary”. I find the whole system an embarrassing, class ridden throwback and handing out awards named after something that doesn't exist except in the minds of Daily Mail readers and Nigel Farage sadly pathetic. It wouldn't be overly complex to modernise the honours and recognise the contribution of individuals to society with a single ctizenship award. It will never happen although I wonder what might happen in an independent Scotland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, fifexile said: I find the whole system an embarrassing, class ridden throwback and handing out awards named after something that doesn't exist except in the minds of Daily Mail readers and Nigel Farage sadly pathetic. It wouldn't be overly complex to modernise the honours and recognise the contribution of individuals to society with a single ctizenship award. It will never happen although I wonder what might happen in an independent Scotland. The honours system as it stands still treats us all as subjects of the current monarch. We definately need one which recognises us as citizens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 16 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Fair enough - you don’t like the establishment. However, I am pretty sure the “ordinary people” are delighted to be recognised for what they do out of the “ordinary”. Some ordinary people, in fact probably most, fall into the trap category you mention. Personally, I'd love the opportunity to be recognized for turning one down, but that ain't gonna happen. In fact, they don't even publish the names of refuseniks, out of embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 I think we would be hard pressed to find a society where some section of it doesn’t hold a privileged position, even in the remotest villages. I guess everybody that is opposed to the Royal family and the honours system politely declined the extra days holiday this year. I am not fussed about the Royal family one way or another. I just don’t get the angst that some are displaying here as that establishment would be replaced by something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: I think we would be hard pressed to find a society where some section of it doesn’t hold a privileged position, even in the remotest villages.I guess everybody that is opposed to the Royal family and the honours system politely declined the extra days holiday this year. I am not fussed about the Royal family one way or another. I just don’t get the angst that some are displaying here as that establishment would be replaced by something else. As legally, public holidays can count as part of annual holiday entitlement, many didn't have that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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