Dick Dastardly Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 9 hours ago, jlsarmy said: Are you really telling me our Academy works well ? Is it perfect ? .... No. But it is no where near as bad as you make out. I could have added Stanway, Lyon and the lad we just sold to Rangers last week to the list of players who have developed. I guess it depends on how you measure the success. If you are expecting a stream of kids developing into 1st team regulars at Thistle then you are always going to be disappointed. We have already seen with Fitzpatrick and the lad sold to Rangers that young players good enough for us are worth far more to the junior teams of bigger clubs and nothing is going to change that. What it is doing well is that (we are told) it is not a financial burden on the club. It gives some of these kids a purpose (god know what they might be getting upto if they were not at our junior games. It is creating a fan base as many of the young players and/or their parents will become season ticket holders (*) and it takes the Partick Thistle brand to a different audience, much like the women's team. (*) Building the fan base is a key factor in most academies. I have 2 nephews, one at Man Utd and one at Everton under 12s. I was talking to one of the coaches and asking him how many he expected to make it and his reply was none, but if 2 parents from George's team became season ticket holders for 5 years, it would have paid for that team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 9 hours ago, BILL.H said: Fraserburgh is at Firhill. Blooming hope so, else I’ve somehow booked into hospitality up north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_adam Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Another reason our academy will never develop a steady flow of first team players is the competition for the academy. Unfortunately we aren't even 4th best in the area that teams pick up players, we already sit behind Rangers, Celtic and Queens Park in that regard, with competition coming from Motherwell and Hamilton... However what I would say is the Colin Weir money allowed us to make great strides in catching our academy up, unfortunately that money has dried up so the academy now needs to become self-sufficient and the slow down of progress will continue because of the high level of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 For what it’s worth, our academy may be giving kids skills and fun, but it’s not delivering for the Club (yet). We should be seeing more end product, ideally breaking into the first team and committing to the Jags. Until then, it seems we are destined (doomed) to keep developing SEVCO ‘talent’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, sandy said: For what it’s worth, our academy may be giving kids skills and fun, but it’s not delivering for the Club (yet). We should be seeing more end product, ideally breaking into the first team and committing to the Jags. Until then, it seems we are destined (doomed) to keep developing SEVCO ‘talent’ We always will. Because wether we like it or not the vast majority of players support one of the two scumbags and if offered a chance at either club will jump at it. Thistle have been, are and always a stepping stone to the likes of those two. And being in Glasgow makes it worse for us. We shall never be a successful club in terms of trophies. Never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dan Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Are we choosing to ignore Scott Tiffoney, Tiffs was on loan before signing and contributed well last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Dan said: Are we choosing to ignore Scott Tiffoney, Tiffs was on loan before signing and contributed well last season. Jack McMillan was on loan too and contributed well too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 looking at this link I don’t think Stanway will be out on loan and neither will McKenziehttps://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/20282578.ian-mccall-reveals-aidan-fitzpatrick-opted-firhill-despite-multiple-offers-elsewhere/?fbclid=IwAR1wjcdN1kfeulkoSfnqWdaiLHKt0XQilO-ounTHtDXAh5VXaoHUuTXHQSk&fs=e&s=cl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcapmilkdrinker Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: looking at this link I don’t think Stanway will be out on loan and neither will McKenziehttps://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/20282578.ian-mccall-reveals-aidan-fitzpatrick-opted-firhill-despite-multiple-offers-elsewhere/?fbclid=IwAR1wjcdN1kfeulkoSfnqWdaiLHKt0XQilO-ounTHtDXAh5VXaoHUuTXHQSk&fs=e&s=cl ‘Tiff has his hands full getting into our team.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, madcapmilkdrinker said: ‘Tiff has his hands full getting into our team.’ Clearly tongue in cheek but there are signs that he won't be subject to routine double marking (on occasions, triple). There's a bit more attacking threat from elsewhere. Still feel we're not exactly over blessed with pace in attack. That alone secures Tiffoney starting berth. 3 hours ago, sandy said: Blooming hope so, else I’ve somehow booked into hospitality up north I wonder what hospitality up in the Broch would entail? Comfy seat, match programme, fast tracking in the methadone queue. The munchies at half time. And to send you merrily on your way a post match talk from a local drugs councillor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Don't forget to add Chris Erskine to the growing list of decent loanees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Taylor wasn't too bad either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 14 hours ago, BILL.H said: Fraserburgh is at Firhill. Now I can see why I dumped geography in school at the first opportunity! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: Taylor wasn't too bad either. Agreed - a key player in keeping us from relegation. Prince Buaben was okay - not great but not too bad either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 3 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I wonder what hospitality up in the Broch would entail? Comfy seat, match programme, fast tracking in the methadone queue. The munchies at half time. And to send you merrily on your way a post match talk from a local drugs councillor. M’lady, I hope you are not confusing Fraserburgh and Peterhead? I know the latter also smells of fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, sandy said: M’lady, I hope you are not confusing Fraserburgh and Peterhead? I know the latter also smells of fish. Most certainly not. The Broch makes Peterhead look like St Tropez these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Fraserburgh cuffed 3-0 by Stenny and likewise Montrose by Killie. 2 home wins this week and group is ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpj Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Did we not originally have Danny Lennon on a 3 month loan before signing him permanently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, elevenone said: Fraserburgh cuffed 3-0 by Stenny and likewise Montrose by Killie. 2 home wins this week and group is ours. Hopefully we give both teams the respect they deserve- and don’t expect a walkover. I think if we get through to the next round we get £40,000 alone - that’s a lot of money for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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