Lambies Lost Doo Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Jaqui Low has always came across to me as a buffoon. Friends with all the right people. A "PR expert" who has handled PR of the club terribly. She'd post on social media about food banks then show off her new sports car, house, stay in Blytheswood Hotel etc. The Gary Caldwell love in looking at him like an adoring Auntie. The sneaky way she has went about the fan ownership scheme. She wasn't even a Thistle fan ffs! I wish I 'd been there when the old board took control, booted her out the premises and hired Ian McCall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: the old board took control, booted her out the premises and hired Ian McCall. As Meatloaf said …. “Two out of three ain’t bad” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) Regime change is required but let’s not make it personal. We could do with freshening up the Club Board; probably time we had a new Chair to steer the fan-owned ship with a careful hand on the tiller Edited August 13, 2022 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, sandy said: Regime change is required but let’s not make it personal. We could do with freshening up the Club Board; probably time we had a new Chair to steer the fan-owned ship with a careful hand on the tiller She won’t step down mate unfortunately. For whatever reason and I still don’t fully understand what she is getting out of it - she seems determined to hang on. Maybe we will find out this week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: She won’t step down mate unfortunately. For whatever reason and I still don’t fully understand what she is getting out of it - she seems determined to hang on. Maybe we will find out this week Maybe TL. The whole saga baffles me. All I know is that it’s not doing the Club any good. We need a swift resolution as to where Colin Weirs legacy shares go. My hopes of them going to a democratic group of fans is fading. The TJF proposals were the best I could see. Who knows who will own our Club later this month? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) Friday night's game against ICT is on BBC and would be a good night for a public show of action against the board. Whether that's banners or non-stop chanting, I'm more than happy to get stuck in and make it happen despite being just 5 days away. We do a lot of talking on this forum. But I think actions speak a lot louder. I remember the younger guys organising something to reverse the decision to give away fans the North Stand. No reason we can't do the same now. So. Ideas... Edited August 14, 2022 by Yellow & Redneck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Banner in John Lambie Stand. Match disruption with something like toilet rolls, streamers that need cleared off pitch. Some chanting. Jaqui Low style wigs for all to wear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 “Show, don’t tell.” If you’re on TV, a visual is a must. I don’t have the same PR experience as Jacqui, but my university degree is in PR and the importance of visuals is paramount. Not saying chants aren’t powerful, but they’re supplemental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted August 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiThistle said: “Show, don’t tell.” If you’re on TV, a visual is a must. I don’t have the same PR experience as Jacqui, but my university degree is in PR and the importance of visuals is paramount. Not saying chants aren’t powerful, but they’re supplemental. 100% this - a picture tells a thousand words and can be re-shown on websites and papers later. Turning our backs en masse at a certain minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Side note - BBC would be looking at any interesting angles for their programming. If a TJF representative had a contact there and wanted to put a bug in their ear about what the banner means and why people are chanting as such, you might get the commentators to give an on-air mention. It might not even take a contact - just getting to the right programming coordinators or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/inverness-tickets-on-sale-now/ Inverness tickets on sale now but still no indication of what we're buying in to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Am working Friday night so gonna miss this one but agree regards visuals. From a live BBC angle any banner would be more noticeable unfurled from JL stand. The toilet roll throw at a specific moment of the game would certainly get the reasons why mentioned if anyone had a word in the ear of the BBC pre match. Personally still think players need full support as this is not their mess so for that I’m not a fan of walkouts, booing or turning backs especially as BBC may misconstrue that as performance based when ICT go 3 up. Would advise bringing own loo roll as never any in the toilets at ground (same usually with handtowels, soap and hot water). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, BowenBoys said: https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/inverness-tickets-on-sale-now/ Inverness tickets on sale now but still no indication of what we're buying in to... A fecking shit show of epic proportions sadly Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, elevenone said: Am working Friday night so gonna miss this one but agree regards visuals. From a live BBC angle any banner would be more noticeable unfurled from JL stand. The toilet roll throw at a specific moment of the game would certainly get the reasons why mentioned if anyone had a word in the ear of the BBC pre match. Personally still think players need full support as this is not their mess so for that I’m not a fan of walkouts, booing or turning backs especially as BBC may misconstrue that as performance based when ICT go 3 up. Would advise bringing own loo roll as never any in the toilets at ground (same usually with handtowels, soap and hot water). Sound subtle but sound advice @elevenone. I won’t be going, but I feel if I had been, I’d have needed a loo roll for each half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, sandy said: Sound subtle but sound advice @elevenone. I won’t be going, but I feel if I had been, I’d have needed a loo roll for each half. Always preferred Sam Cooke to Loo Rolls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, sandy said: Sound subtle but sound advice @elevenone. I won’t be going, but I feel if I had been, I’d have needed a loo roll for each half. Watching Thistle often causes me to wish I'd taken plenty loo rolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, elevenone said: Am working Friday night so gonna miss this one but agree regards visuals. From a live BBC angle any banner would be more noticeable unfurled from JL stand. The toilet roll throw at a specific moment of the game would certainly get the reasons why mentioned if anyone had a word in the ear of the BBC pre match. Personally still think players need full support as this is not their mess so for that I’m not a fan of walkouts, booing or turning backs especially as BBC may misconstrue that as performance based when ICT go 3 up. Would advise bringing own loo roll as never any in the toilets at ground (same usually with handtowels, soap and hot water). Would you get in with a hand towel, bar of soap and container of hot water? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastjag Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I haven't joined TJF. I'm undecided about fan ownership for PTFC. However I'm unhappy with the current attitude from within my club. Not for the first time of course. I'm only here for another two home games before I go home for a month or two. Do I turn up on Friday? Do I boycott? Will there be any action other than on here? (this is a serious question, not a slight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Trivial in the wider scheme of things, but I've been thinking about it for a while, as it relates to what seems like a moribund/stagnating "fund-raising" operation. As soon as I get clearance from the bank (of S), I'm ending my DD to the Centenary Fund. Will be happy to re-assign the same amount or even more to something else good that emerges in the future ( too many "signed ball" wins that never materialized can be seen as one reason for abandonment). Not sure yet about tying this decision into the 3BCs/JLow stramash, but content to keep my powder dry for now. Can anybody put a figure on how the the CF does in fact raise for PTFC each year? I ask that because the prizes on offer seem quite paltry by today's standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said: Well, a campaign has to be led. TJF are the obvious choice to lead it. But, will they? And yes, when actions are uncoordinated they often either fall flat or fizzle out. There has to be coordination by some body or other. If there is a vacuum in terms of leadership regarding protest/disapproval it will likely look feeble. 3BCs/PTFC board may well be banking on this! I actually don't agree. Separating the (TJF-cheerleading) campaig/pressure group from the prospective fan-ownership group (TJF) seems like the smart move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, denismcquadeno.eleven said: But, do you not agree a group of some sort has to coordinate protest, even if it’s not TJF? Or do you think ad hoc individuals/ groups should just get on with it themselves? 100% it needs to be organised and in a group. I just think asking TJF to be the good cop and the bad cop is too tricky, and I think the delicate balancing act they've had to perform this year shows that. (Deep apologies for the mixed metaphor) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, MarciaBlaine said: 100% it needs to be organised and in a group. I just think asking TJF to be the good cop and the bad cop is too tricky, and I think the delicate balancing act they've had to perform this year shows that. (Deep apologies for the mixed metaphor) Marcia, sorry I don’t know your real name. Would you be up for leading such a protest group? You seem clued up and able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, MarciaBlaine said: I actually don't agree. Separating the (TJF-cheerleading) campaig/pressure group from the prospective fan-ownership group (TJF) seems like the smart move. Are they still a prospective fan ownership group ? What about the Group that had the open letter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) On 8/17/2022 at 4:09 PM, sandy said: Marcia, sorry I don’t know your real name. Would you be up for leading such a protest group? You seem clued up and able. Eek! Well I've read a book or two on this stuff... That said, I'm pretty uncomfortable with the idea of anyone 'leading' it as such, but I'd definitely be up for contributing to something that's more of a co-ordinated and organised collective effort. I would also add that a community group (which is essentially what this is imo) needs a community to work well, building on existing bonds between like-minded people. That's what I think TJF got so right recently with face to face interactions at games, barbecue, etc. I think that's key to the success of any such effort. So a pure social media campaign for example won't cut it in my view. I'd suggest we need to see what the TJF board feel is right for the future of TJF before we can know what other group is required. Given everything that's happened, I'd expect them to make further statements this week. Edited August 24, 2022 by MarciaBlaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Are they still a prospective fan ownership group ? What about the Group that had the open letter ? I guess we might find out more this week per my post above. As a member I'd still like them to work towards it and I don't think the fan ownership genie is going to disappear back into the bottle, so they're best placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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