Lenziejag Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 hours ago, JAG1970 said: Good point that the rail strike perhaps had a proportionally bigger impact to us (fewer Morton fans) than Peterhead and Clyde away support.. but generally it remains concerning that we’ve lost so many fans over the years. Although it is still early in the season, the average is higher than last season and the curtailed 2019/20 season by a few hundred and less than 100 down on the season before that. Mind you we have still to hit the depths of winter when sometimes I have to think twice about going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Jaggy, My point is that a club like ours has to maximise income from whatever source it can. I would doggedly fight for your right to view a game from the South Pole, as long as you paid a fee. Ok, or as long as you gave us publicity! Perhaps we could persuade a lot of Penguins to take over the South Stand! A step too far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscat Jag Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Anybody else remember when we last scored 5, with 5 different scorers. Also the oppositions goal was scored by someone with the same surname as one of our scores. One for @The Thistle Archive maybe. Falkirk? When they dominated the corner count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anniesland Jag Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Harrybriscoe said: I think "freakish wonder strike" is a bit harsh. Surely that's one of the best free kick goals you'll see this season. I'd take one like that from a Jags player any day of the week. Perhaps a bit harsh but “freakish” in the context of an overall honking Morton that looked like having heehaw in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 i see we are back on the "crowd aging and dwindling" again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, douglas clark said: My point is that a club like ours has to maximise income from whatever source it can. One major problem (really two) of opening streaming service In Scotland/UK in my mind would be a dramatic drop off in away fans attending. That would affect atmosphere at the games and threaten local businesses. As for revenue, would have been travelling fans will simply share TVs and devices. I'm not taking the thin edge of the wedge approach as I agree in the likes of your case that Club revenue is lost. Find a way to limit Scottish/UK screening to home fans only with genuine reasons they can't attend and it could work. It's a bit tho' like treating unemployed fans as concessionary. Something I'm fairly sure most of us would welcome but would be extremely difficult to police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 I would also question how much it would cost to buy the rights for the live stream. It maybe that there is an exception for small clubs, but as I am not aware of any that have exercised that right, there must be a good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 hours ago, douglas clark said: Perhaps we could persuade a lot of Penguins to take over the South Stand! That might be taking the biscuit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 7:10 PM, Fawlty Towers said: Attendances for the Championship so far this season: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/scottish-championship/attendances Our average home attendances since last 10 years 2013/14 - 5000 (Prem) 2014/15 - 3586 (Prem) 2015/16 - 3797 (Prem) 2016/17 - 4282 (Prem) 2017/18 - 4597 (Prem) 2018/19 - 3042 (Champ) 2019/20 - 2699 (Champ) 2020/21 - COVID (Lg 1) 2021/22 - 2539 (Champ) 2022/23 - 2933 (Champ) What this doesn’t show is the split between home/away or (more importantly financially) Kids/U18/Adults/Pensioners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Our average home attendances since last 10 years 2013/14 - 5000 (Prem) 2014/15 - 3586 (Prem) 2015/16 - 3797 (Prem) 2016/17 - 4282 (Prem) 2017/18 - 4597 (Prem) 2018/19 - 3042 (Champ) 2019/20 - 2699 (Champ) 2020/21 - COVID (Lg 1) 2021/22 - 2539 (Champ) 2022/23 - 2933 (Champ) What this doesn’t show is the split between home/away or (more importantly financially) Kids/U18/Adults/Pensioners For some additional comparison - our average to Sept last season was 2,961. That was for 3 home games which included Kilmarnock. However, I am not sure I believe the QOS figure given as 1,534 for the 1st home league game - a typo surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 13 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Our average home attendances since last 10 years 2013/14 - 5000 (Prem) 2014/15 - 3586 (Prem) 2015/16 - 3797 (Prem) 2016/17 - 4282 (Prem) 2017/18 - 4597 (Prem) 2018/19 - 3042 (Champ) 2019/20 - 2699 (Champ) 2020/21 - COVID (Lg 1) 2021/22 - 2539 (Champ) 2022/23 - 2933 (Champ) What this doesn’t show is the split between home/away or (more importantly financially) Kids/U18/Adults/Pensioners Regarding the split, the number of adults maximises the here and now gate income.Kids and U18’s significance shouldn’t be marginalised as they are the “core” support of the future. Neither should pensioners who are probably likely to be the most consistent attenders for 15 to 20 years. And let’s not forget, every supporter potentially spends more than just the ticket money, although I don’t know what the agreements are with the pie stalls/Aitken Suite/Merchandise outlet and if that benefits PTFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: For some additional comparison - our average to Sept last season was 2,961. That was for 3 home games which included Kilmarnock. However, I am not sure I believe the QOS figure given as 1,534 for the 1st home league game - a typo surely? The QOS game was subject to Covid restrictions and only season ticket holders were allowed entry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, jaggy said: The QOS game was subject to Covid restrictions and only season ticket holders were allowed entry Had forgotten that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Regarding the split, the number of adults maximises the here and now gate income.Kids and U18’s significance shouldn’t be marginalised as they are the “core” support of the future. Neither should pensioners who are probably likely to be the most consistent attenders for 15 to 20 years. And let’s not forget, every supporter potentially spends more than just the ticket money, although I don’t know what the agreements are with the pie stalls/Aitken Suite/Merchandise outlet and if that benefits PTFC. The key is to turn the kids into regularly attending adults (perhaps a transitional U21 ticket), whilst ensuring that access to the stadium is kept easy for our older generation (not relying on online/smart phones for access, ensuring south drive is light and not slippery, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Good response from Morton tonight, and two very good results for us. Had we won that game against Cove, we would have quite a comfortable cushion at the top at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Cove beat Dundee and Morton beat Queens Park tonight. Stephen1876 beat me to it. Edited October 4, 2022 by Auld Jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Really good results for us tonight, and hopefully confidence bursting for Dundee & Queens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Gary Peebles Tackle said: Really good results for us tonight, and hopefully confidence bursting for Dundee & Queens. Lee Bowyer's jacket on a very shoogly peg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: Lee Bowyer's jacket on a very shoogly peg. The Dundee manager is Gary Bowyer I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, jags on tour said: The Dundee manager is Gary Bowyer I think! Lee Bowyer sacked by Birmingham City in the summer so would be available to replace Gary Bowyer at Dundee. Or they could bring back Mark McGhee?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Gary Peebles Tackle said: Really good results for us tonight, and hopefully confidence bursting for Dundee & Queens. These results have prevented or at least delayed the top 5 bottom 5 split occurring as it did last season. Morton and Cove are bridging the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWearsNumber9 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Great results for us tonight, as mentioned above though makes the draws at home to accies and particularly cove more frustrating. If we’d have won one of or both of those fixtures as we should have with the amount of chances we created, we could have opened up a small gap already. If we had done so we could have looked at Fridays game in Inverness as a fixture where you would accept a point or could afford a slip up. It’s important we start winning more or less all of our home games against the bottom 5 sides to ensure we have the breathing space to draw or lose here and there in the more difficult away fixtures. I’m still very happy with the start we’ve made to the season but need to make sure that 5-1 thrashing becomes a habit at firhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Does that make Friday a must win game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, AlgarveJag said: Does that make Friday a must win game? If we want to open up a clear gap.... aye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 hours ago, partickthedog said: Lee Bowyer sacked by Birmingham City in the summer so would be available to replace Gary Bowyer at Dundee. Or they could bring back Mark McGhee?! If only he had not called it a day then that would have been fab. https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/mark-mcghees-5-wackiest-aberdeen-25111183?fbclid=IwAR26Ofr2S4ZCmyxlyJQqQ_PxVe5hm17duH0LjwVdcS99qeTvCyO6XBNg6qE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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