1876 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Game over 4/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, 1876 said: Game over 4/1 Game was over after 30 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted October 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 We beat them on corners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Disappointing but not surprise of the century. More important game on Saturday in the grand scheme of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, dl1971 said: Disappointing but not surprise of the century. More important game on Saturday in the grand scheme of things Agree. I hope it doesn't knock the confidence and hope Holt isn't badly injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnkebab71 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Harry Milne, best player on the park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted October 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Good to see Big Dazza get his first goal for the club. That cheered me up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Game over by half time, but was impressed with how we managed the second half and contribution of players who aren't regular starters. So hopefully they will be able to move on quickly in the dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Trusting everybody made it home from the game safely and in good time. These sort of results can have good or bad consequences. Can only hope the learning and humbling experience will have a galvanising effect. Two games coming up quickly. Both presenting difficulties. On form we should be edging QP at home, but having just had a difficult midweek game could make it that bit harder. Matches at Somerset Pk are usually tricky even when Ayr haven't been performing. This time they are so doubly tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anniesland Jag Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 This cups never been the same since 71 anyway …moving on now to another must win on Sat . Hope big Holt is ok as he’s such an important yet often unsung ,as he does what he does look so easy,hero for us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 We were completely overwhelmed in midfield in the 1st half. Concerning! But credit to the manager for changing personnel and system quickly to prevent an absolute pumping. We had to sacrifice either Tiff or Stevie who were our most dangerous to make up for deficiencies of others. On the credit side I thought all 5 subs played well, Smith particularly! Perhaps we do have some strength in depth. Sometimes I moan about big Brian’s lack of mobility but the attitude of the whole team completely changed when he came on. Inspirational! We can’t do without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 hours ago, 1876 said: Much better second half for thistle Good support tonight Just need a second goal More than 700; pretty decent for midweek. Let's hope they get partly compensated with a victory against the Spiders at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: We were completely overwhelmed in midfield in the 1st half. Concerning! But credit to the manager for changing personnel and system quickly to prevent an absolute pumping. We had to sacrifice either Tiff or Stevie who were our most dangerous to make up for deficiencies of others. On the credit side I thought all 5 subs played well, Smith particularly! Perhaps we do have some strength in depth. Sometimes I moan about big Brian’s lack of mobility but the attitude of the whole team completely changed when he came on. Inspirational! We can’t do without him. You can't give him credit for making a complete **** up in the first place. It was suicidal to start the game with wingbacks being asked to get forward and leaving the 2 central defenders completely exposed to an Aberdeen attack that everyone knew had pace. We were away from home to a seasoned premier league side, so trying to attack them from the start is, at best, naive in the extreme. We are better than last nights score, but one again, as he does far to regularly, McCall failed to get the best out of the players at his disposal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: You can't give him credit for making a complete **** up in the first place. It was suicidal to start the game with wingbacks being asked to get forward and leaving the 2 central defenders completely exposed to an Aberdeen attack that everyone knew had pace. We were away from home to a seasoned premier league side, so trying to attack them from the start is, at best, naive in the extreme. We are better than last nights score, but one again, as he does far to regularly, McCall failed to get the best out of the players at his disposal. Somehow I think that if McCall had set the team up to play defensively and hope for a breakaway goal but lost anyway, you'd be on here saying that the plan was obviously going to fail and that McCall should have got the team to attack from the start. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Weebaw1 said: We were completely overwhelmed in midfield in the 1st half. Concerning! But credit to the manager for changing personnel and system quickly to prevent an absolute pumping. We had to sacrifice either Tiff or Stevie who were our most dangerous to make up for deficiencies of others. On the credit side I thought all 5 subs played well, Smith particularly! Perhaps we do have some strength in depth. Sometimes I moan about big Brian’s lack of mobility but the attitude of the whole team completely changed when he came on. Inspirational! We can’t do without him. 2 of those changes were forced, not planned with Holt being stretchered off and Muirhead being early booked and struggling with injury. Those give us a problem for Saturday and beyond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Somehow I think that if McCall had set the team up to play defensively and hope for a breakaway goal but lost anyway, you'd be on here saying that the plan was obviously going to fail and that McCall should have got the team to attack from the start. Took the words right out of my mouth. IMC was, with some on this thread, in a no win position. Attack and get beat and he is clueless, useless, got his tactics wrong etc, etc. Set up for a defensive approach lose 1-0 and he lacks imagination, courage, not trying to win the game and we should have gone for it because Aberdeen were there for the taking and so on. Aberdeen had 17 goal attempts and got 6 on target we managed 10 & 6 respectively. Dundee went to Ibrox made 5 goal attempts and got 0 on target. There manager said he was proud the way his team contained Rangers but felt they could have done more! I prefer our statistics. When we talk of our manager not having a clue I think we need to look at the league table in Scotland's most competitive league! IMC is doing a lot better than Gary Caldwell , who didn't gave a clue! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 The IMC love in here is hilarious. Yes, he has us top of the league, but quite frankly, as it is accepted that he has assembled the best squad in the keague, we are toiling to show that. We should be a bit more ahead at the top. He constantly is shown to be naive in his tactics, we have more below average displays than good, our defence is very suspect. A half decent manager would get more out of this squad than McCall has. A competitive league? That's another way of saying that it is a dreadful quality of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: The IMC love in here is hilarious. Yes, he has us top of the league, but quite frankly, as it is accepted that he has assembled the best squad in the keague, we are toiling to show that. We should be a bit more ahead at the top. He constantly is shown to be naive in his tactics, we have more below average displays than good, our defence is very suspect. A half decent manager would get more out of this squad than McCall has. A competitive league? That's another way of saying that it is a dreadful quality of football. The quality of the football in every league we have played in from Premier to the 1st had been called dreadful. It depends who or what league we compare against. The best two teams in Scotland are dreadful in the champions league this season. Historically we in Scotland always compared our football to that in England. Now we can compare it to football all round the world and inevitability it doesn't look good. Genuine question. What should we use to compare our league against another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Garscube Road End 2 said: The IMC love in here is hilarious. Yes, he has us top of the league, but quite frankly, as it is accepted that he has assembled the best squad in the keague, we are toiling to show that. We should be a bit more ahead at the top. He constantly is shown to be naive in his tactics, we have more below average displays than good, our defence is very suspect. A half decent manager would get more out of this squad than McCall has. A competitive league? That's another way of saying that it is a dreadful quality of football. I share your opinion in so much as I often question the quality of McCall's on the pitch decision making. I would question tho' the availability of a "half decent manager" at or below the level we play in. Either you're underrating McCall's overall managerial ability or setting the bar too high. In effect I'm saying that McCall is in relative terms a half decent manager. Whether he's capable of managing effectively in the top tier is another question altogether. Perhaps a paradox but in our latter days in the top division if we had McCall involved in recruitment and the man management side of things we may have stayed up. Ideally I'd like to see us prepare for life in the top tier rather than a cross that bridge scenario. That said I'm not really suggesting bringing in a third assistant manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, fifexile said: The quality of the football in every league we have played in from Premier to the 1st had been called dreadful. It depends who or what league we compare against. The best two teams in Scotland are dreadful in the champions league this season. Historically we in Scotland always compared our football to that in England. Now we can compare it to football all round the world and inevitability it doesn't look good. Genuine question. What should we use to compare our league against another? The point regards a dreadful league is that this squad should be doing better than they are. That is down to the manager and his coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 What McCall cannot legislate for are the individual errors and slackness that contributed to 3 of the goals on Wednesday - of course no manager can. If misplaced passes, dithering on the ball, mis-control in your own penalty area and deflections are all the fault of managers then I suspect managerial tenures will become even shorter than they already are. He isn't the best manager that's ever been at Firhill - not by a distance - but to ascribe all of the blame to him after a 4-1 away defeat to a team in the league above when all of these "misdemeanours" contributed to the score-line is perhaps a little unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 All is fair in love, war and football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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