Auld Jag Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Not the Australian soap but how we end our 36 game league season. Arbroath at home and Raith Rovers away. A win for Thistle on Saturday and Morton do not win would guarantee us a playoff place. First up we have Arbroath at Firhill and a draw in this game would probably see them safe in the Championship for another season. Will they come looking for a draw or go and try and win the game. For Thistle the only change i would expect would be Tiffoney,if fit in for Fitzpatrick. Let's hope for another good attendance. Edited April 27, 2023 by Auld Jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: Not the Australian soap but how we end our 36 game league season. Arbroath at home and Raith Rovers away. A win for Thistle on Saturday and Morton do not win would guarantee us a playoff place. First up we have Arbroath at Firhill and a draw in this game would probably see them safe in the Championship for another season. Will they come looking for a draw or go and try and win the game. For Thistle the only change i would expect would be Tiffoney,if fit in for Fitzpatrick. Let's hope for another good attendance. My only concern is that we struggle against poor teams who park the bus and Arbroath will do this. We look a million dollars then run out of ideas. So an early goal is imperative to avoid a Hamilton, Cove or Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said: My only concern is that we struggle against poor teams who park the bus and Arbroath will do this. We look a million dollars then run out of ideas. So an early goal is imperative to avoid a Hamilton, Cove or Dundee. Agree, but just add if we get an early goal to try and build on it, not stop playing as we did against Ayr in our last home game. And then spend the last 5 minutes or so of the game pressing for a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Not the Australian soap but how we end our 36 game league season. Arbroath at home and Raith Rovers away. A win for Thistle on Saturday and Morton do not win would guarantee us a playoff place. First up we have Arbroath at Firhill and a draw in this game would probably see them safe in the Championship for another season. Will they come looking for a draw or go and try and win the game. For Thistle the only change i would expect would be Tiffoney,if fit in for Fitzpatrick. Let's hope for another good attendance. It shouldn’t - but the result of tomorrow night’s game may impact the dynamics of our game. If Dundee beat Cove, Arbroath don’t really have anything to play for. Incredibly, given how they cut us apart a couple of times last season, Arbroath haven’t scored against us in four attempts this year (although no idea how they never won at Gayfield in February). Is Hodson another out for the season causalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 We could really do with Hodson back in to allow Holt to return to central defence. If Brownlie had been benched over last few games things might be very different. Would be great to secure the playoffs this week .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 Change the topic slightly and too lazy to start a new thread. Who would we prefer to win the league. Now it is down to Dundee and QP, the one who doesn’t win will be in the playoffs and therefore potentially opponents on our final drive to promotion. Neither are on great form, and we have become hard to beat so I don’t fear either. Seeing Dundee destined to another year in the Championship and meeting QP in the Premier would be my preference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 We could do with Cove beating the Dees tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, sandy said: We could do with Cove beating the Dees tonight Can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 If Cove lose tonight then Arbroath will effectively be safe (vastly superior goal difference) - which might mean they play a bit more freely tomorrow- which isn’t necessarily a good thing…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, JeanieD said: If Cove lose tonight then Arbroath will effectively be safe (vastly superior goal difference) - which might mean they play a bit more freely tomorrow- which isn’t necessarily a good thing…….. Yes, that's my fear too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, JeanieD said: If Cove lose tonight then Arbroath will effectively be safe (vastly superior goal difference) - which might mean they play a bit more freely tomorrow- which isn’t necessarily a good thing…….. Or they might bring along the beach balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 They can’t have beach balls in Arbroath. They would be half way across Angus before they landed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, JeanieD said: If Cove lose tonight then Arbroath will effectively be safe (vastly superior goal difference) - which might mean they play a bit more freely tomorrow- which isn’t necessarily a good thing…….. Didn't Cove win away to Arbroath last week and wasn't this a game where Arbroath were strong favourites? I appreciate Cove beating Dundee at Dens Park is a completely different proposition form beating Arbroath at Gayfield but that's would be my preference. I would then prefer Queens Park to win their last two games against Morton and Dundee to gain automatic promotion. Of course I want the Jags to win against Arbroath and Raith (4-0 & 3-0) which would be enough to achieve 2nd place on goal difference. We of course win promotion through the play-offs. Queens would have 64 pts Partick Thistle 59 pts Dundee 59pts. 12 mins played at Dens and still 0-0! Cove have a chance only 78 mins to go! Plenty time to sneak a goal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, exiledjag said: 12 mins played at Dens and still 0-0! See Fox is still kicking bye kicks straight into touch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 Half-time 0 - 0! Master plan going well. Just need Cove to get into the game and score a couple of goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Change the topic slightly and too lazy to start a new thread. Who would we prefer to win the league. Now it is down to Dundee and QP, the one who doesn’t win will be in the playoffs and therefore potentially opponents on our final drive to promotion. Neither are on great form, and we have become hard to beat so I don’t fear either. Seeing Dundee destined to another year in the Championship and meeting QP in the Premier would be my preference I'd prefer QP to win the league and us to go up too via the play-offs - goes without saying. I'm not sure the men in charge want 4 Glasgow teams in the top league though. They have their Glasgow derby already and would probably prefer Killie and Ayr or Ross C and Inverness. Dundee going up gives them the Dundee derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 The Dundee results tonight and in recent weeks just makes me realise what an opportunity we have missed this season. Btw didn’t realise Shaggy was a coach at Dundee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 Whoever wins this league won't really have deserved it. It's terrible and that ref from last week, could well have cost us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 Tonight's result means a change to the master plan to Plan B. I hate to say it but I would now prefer Morton to either draw with or beat Queens Park. Also Dundee to beat them in their final league game. That would leave Queens on 58 or 59 points. While this is going on we defeat both Arbroath and Raith to also finish on 59 points to finish 2nd on goal difference. We then subsequently promotion via the play offs. And yes, the two goals, particularly the second goal which was clearly onside, disallowed by last weekends referee and assistant referee have proved to be significant in terms of taking us out of contention for the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 hours ago, exiledjag said: Tonight's result means a change to the master plan to Plan B. I hate to say it but I would now prefer Morton to either draw with or beat Queens Park. Also Dundee to beat them in their final league game. That would leave Queens on 58 or 59 points. While this is going on we defeat both Arbroath and Raith to also finish on 59 points to finish 2nd on goal difference. We then subsequently promotion via the play offs. And yes, the two goals, particularly the second goal which was clearly onside, disallowed by last weekends referee and assistant referee have proved to be significant in terms of taking us out of contention for the title. Have to reluctantly agree. We can only catch QP now. The league win was lost way before last week. You can’t blame one dodgy ref and the way it has turned out, we should have been out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Main question seems to be as to how Fitzy and Tiffoney are deployed today. Fitzy starting and Tiffoney coming on at halftime either as a straight replacement or as part of a formation rearrangement depending on the game position and how others are playing could be a possibility. Cannot see both starting when Lawless is in such outstanding form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Given last night’s result, Arbroath might be tempted to play a bit like Cove and seek a point or more if they can break more efficiently than Cove. Breaking down stubborn defences isn’t exactly our strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 This could potentially be the last home game for a number of players if we don’t make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JeanieD said: Given last night’s result, Arbroath might be tempted to play a bit like Cove and seek a point or more if they can break more efficiently than Cove. Breaking down stubborn defences isn’t exactly our strength. You realise you're crediting Dick Campbell with the ability to deploy tactics? But yes, we're better against teams who need to win. Last week may have been an exception to the rule as Accies needed all 3 points and it was an open game. Even then we uncharacteristically lost two goals and we did have the ball in the net four times. Same as last week without the errors, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotterJag Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Have to reluctantly agree. We can only catch QP now. The league win was lost way before last week. You can’t blame one dodgy ref and the way it has turned out, we should have been out of sight. Not so sure about your last point. Can see QP losing today and us winning. If we'd have won last week too, that would have meant going into the last game where a win would mean that two of the 3 possible outcomes in the QP v Dundee game, suited us. As it stands, we need to dust ourselves down and get a place in the play-offs secured pronto. We've seen all season that anyone can beat anyone, so it's all to play for if we get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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