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Hamilton Academical 🔴⚪️ vs Partick Thistle 🔴 🟡


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  1. 1. Accies, draw or Jags

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  • Poll closed on 09/28/2024 at 02:00 PM

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7 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

I dont think we can really pin too much on Dan McKay being out.  While he has looked good he has not been brilliant and the one thing i remember most about his contribution this season is missing a complete open goal against Motherwell when it was harder to miss than score.  He also does have a bit of an injury history with other clubs.  Not ruling out that he might not be a brilliant player for us but i think someone like Lawless has been a far far bigger loss than McKay

I don't think I said him being out was the sole reason we are not playing well but his pace and skill on the ball would at least have given us another option to change things during a game and it was an unexpected injury whilst we knew Lawless was going to be out.

Anyway, what we can agree on is that so far there has not been one combination of players that has really clicked which needs to change.

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1 hour ago, Thistle88 said:


I’ll give you Roberts. O’reilly though ? Is he actually any better ? We have got worse and it’s clear to see !

Any better than what? He's been a great signing. To be fair the defence isn't the issue.

I'm more worried about the bagel (midfield) and the supply to BBG, and there is an argument about BBG perpetually starting.

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38 minutes ago, jagfox said:

Any better than what? He's been a great signing. To be fair the defence isn't the issue.

I'm more worried about the bagel (midfield) and the supply to BBG, and there is an argument about BBG perpetually starting.

How can you say defence isn’t the issue, the issue is all over the park and it’s down to Doolan. It’s a ******* shambles. 
 

10 points off the top already. Be easy enough to call it a season at 8th for us if we can and take a huge loss. They’ve gave Doolan a decent budget and he can’t manage the players. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Thistle88 said:

How can you say defence isn’t the issue, the issue is all over the park and it’s down to Doolan. It’s a ******* shambles. 
 

10 points off the top already. Be easy enough to call it a season at 8th for us if we can and take a huge loss. They’ve gave Doolan a decent budget and he can’t manage the players. 
 

 

The defence is not the issue. 

 

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6 minutes ago, JAGSMAN1968 said:

Just back from that!

pretty dire, midfield non existent 

Fitzy doesn't look fit

Onwards and sidey ways (just like our passing)

I actually thought Fitzy was one of our better players today and never stopped trying to create opportunities. Stanway also did well after he came on.

Much more urgency, if not effectiveness, from us after their goal. Pity it had to wait so long.

Milne not up to his usual excellent standard, nor was Megwa as good as he was last week.

Overall we lacked fluency. Some promising individual passages of play, but we could not seem to stitch it together.

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10 minutes ago, partickthedog said:

I actually thought Fitzy was one of our better players today and never stopped trying to create opportunities. Stanway also did well after he came on.

Much more urgency, if not effectiveness, from us after their goal. Pity it had to wait so long.

Milne not up to his usual excellent standard, nor was Megwa as good as he was last week.

Overall we lacked fluency. Some promising individual passages of play, but we could not seem to stitch it together.

From what I have seen (just the home games) it has been bursts of individualism rather than 11 guys working in a co-ordinated fashion.

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3 hours ago, Jag36 said:

No idea why we don't just go 4 at the back with macbeth turner centre mid and take it from there.. makes no sense that we've suddenly changed to this '3-5-2' now we've got 2 decent centre backs freeing up macbeth to move back into midfield and a good right back. Doolan needs to start learning a bit faster 3 games with that formation and its not looked good

McBeth can’t play midfield - at least when he did we just shipped goals. 

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The way I see it is either we have a squad of good players and the manager isn’t getting the best out of them, or we have a squad of diddies who the manager has assembled.

Either way, it’s down to the manager.

We can’t risk waiting till the end of the first quarter. Does anyone really see anything changing for the better in the next few weeks?

Now is the time for change.

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11 minutes ago, Jimmy McD said:

Ian Murray would be my choice, spoke to him a few times at Firhill, done a great job at Raith..

Why?

The same job Doolan did a year before?

Some wild takes going on here, beyond the trolls 

 

 

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Basically the club's simplistic strategy of of going all in this season because there's no big fish in the league has completely unraveled.  It's no surprise it has, given how competitive the Championship is. And at some point sooner or later, Doolan will be left carrying the can, because that's what football does. I preferred it when were talking about a 5 year plan and incremental season on season improvement.

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5 hours ago, Third Lanark said:

My fear is if we leave it too late we end up missing out on a decent manager like Ian Murray or Rhys McCabe which gives the board an easy excuse to appoint Brian Graham.

I have no problem with someone like Murray or McCabe appointing Graham as their assistant manager which would be their sole choice- no problem if they chose not to do so.

But Graham shoehorned in as manager which I can forsee happening is completely unacceptable as far as I am concerned and shows we have learned nothing 

According to the New Club General Managers Notes - outwith the Club Football Staff -  there is a separate 

“ Football Committee” 

so in essence -we do not actually know who is influencing or making the  Football Decisions 

who is on it ? Why do we have one ? What expertise do they bring ? 

In a Football Club - the Manager gets a Budget - the Boards role is to maximise the Budget - beyond that they have no say in Football matters 

but at PTFC we have a “ Football Committee”  who are not part of the Club Football Staff 

So maybe we should not be so critical of the manager as we don't actually know who is calling the shots  

who needs to worry about boring stuff like balancing  the books -when you get to play Football Manager 2024 with a real squad ? 


 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

According to the New Club General Managers Notes - outwith the Club Football Staff -  there is a separate 

“ Football Committee” 

so in essence -we do not actually know who is influencing or making the  Football Decisions 

who is on it ? Why do we have one ? What expertise do they bring ? 

In a Football Club - the Manager gets a Budget - the Boards role is to maximise the Budget - beyond that they have no say in Football matters 

but at PTFC we have a “ Football Committee”  who are not part of the Club Football Staff 

So maybe we should not be so critical of the manager as we don't actually know who is calling the shots  

who needs to worry about boring stuff like balancing  the books -when you get to play Football Manager 2024 with a real squad ?

Where did you read this? I'd like to see what else he said but can't find these notes.

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