Hamilton Academical 🔴⚪️ vs Partick Thistle 🔴 🟡

[Jordanhill Jag]

11 minutes ago, Tom Hosie said:

You do realise that you have contraindicated yourself in your first sentence. 

The integration of PTWFC is NOT more important than the performances of the men's team. 

It is 100% bullshit to claim the above. 

It's not the Club's stated policy to prioritise the integration of PTWFC over the performances of the men's team. 

Yet you continue to claim it is, knowing it to be false. 

Jordanhill Jag - Citation Required. 

"we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams."

[Tom Hosie]

13 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

"we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams."

And? 

Your claim was that the integration of PTWFC was more important than the men's team performnace on the pitch. 

I've actually highlighted the important bit to help you. 

No amount of deflection. No amount of deflecting to another point will make that claim any less than bullshit. 

Continuing to claim it is, is worrying. 

Jordanhill Jag - Citation Required 

Edited October 2, 2024 by Tom Hosie

[Jordanhill Jag]

9 minutes ago, Tom Hosie said:

And? 

Your claim was that the integration of PTWFC was more important than the men's team performnace on the pitch. 

I've actually highlighted the important bit to help you. 

No amount of deflection. No amount of deflecting to another point will make that claim any less than bullshit. 

Continuing to claim it is, is worrying. 

Jordanhill Jag - Citation Required 

If your integrating the key role of Football Recruitment across a Professional Football Club and an Amateur Woman's Team -its going to the detriment of the Clubs performance on the pitch ( we don't have a “ Mens Team “ we have PTFC  - therefore Integration is therefore a higher priority 

Thats not bullshit - thats a simple reality 

 

[Tom Hosie]

6 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

If your integrating the key role of Football Recruitment across a Professional Football Club and an Amateur Woman's Team -its going to the detriment of the Clubs performance on the pitch ( we don't have a “ Mens Team “ we have PTFC  - therefore Integration is therefore a higher priority 

Thats not bullshit - thats a simple reality 

 

Citation required. 

[scotty]

It doesn't look like the suggestion that JJ starts a new thread where he can argue his points will be taken up.

Can I suggest the next time a thread is high-jacked someone start a new thread and copy the first wayward post in to it. Then the discussion with JJ can carry on there. I thought about doing it this time but missed the opportunity for a timely intervention and the thread has just wandered since.

[Lambies Lost Doo]

Anyway back to Accies match.  That was a disappointing result.  Fingers crossed we are better v Livi.

[Dick Dastardly]

7 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:

Anyway back to Accies match.  That was a disappointing result.  Fingers crossed we are better v Livi.

I don’t care if we’re not better, providing we get 3 points. Being crap and winning is more important than playing them off the park and losing 

 

edit winning and playing well would be the best

Edited October 2, 2024 by Dick Dastardly

[Lenziejag]

10 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:

I don’t care if we’re not better, providing we get 3 points. Being crap and winning is more important than playing them off the park and losing 

 

edit winning and playing well would be the best

For some, I don’t think winning would be enough.

[Woodstock Jag]

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Statements below 

From yourself as a TJF Board Member 

"we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams." 

You could always try quoting the full sentence and the one immediately after that.

"If this claim were true, we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams.

No such Director of Football exists or has ever existed."

Your claim was false.

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

From the Club General Manager 

"The Integration of the Woman's Team continues " 

Yet again, a massive piece of overinterpretation, misrepresentation and augmentation of a statement. Full context of what Levi said:

This was a generic remark made against the backdrop of ensuring better co-ordination between different facets of the Club. It is literally about "'off-field' operations" not the recruitment strategies or footballing personnel of the men's and women's teams.

It's about ensuring that the disparate groups under the brand "Partick Thistle" work productively together, and better align their respective activities so they are complementary rather than in competition.

There is absolutely no suggestion of the football recruitment activities of the two teams being merged. None whatsoever.

There is absolutely no suggestion of "the integration of the women's team" being prioritised over the men's team. Literally none. You've made it up. Like you always do.

[Woodstock Jag]

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

If your integrating the key role of Football Recruitment across a Professional Football Club and an Amateur Woman's Team -its going to the detriment of the Clubs performance on the pitch ( we don't have a “ Mens Team “ we have PTFC  - therefore Integration is therefore a higher priority 

Thats not bullshit - thats a simple reality 

 

It's just as well they're not doing that then, isn't it?

For the avoidance of doubt: they are not integrating the role of football recruitment across a professional football club and an amateur women's team.

You have made this up.

[eljaggo]

I'm becoming fed up with this website.  Why can't people simply exclude posts appearing on their screen from others they think are spoiling the site. 

[jagfox]

2 hours ago, eljaggo said:

I'm becoming fed up with this website.  Why can't people simply exclude posts appearing on their screen from others they think are spoiling the site. 

There's an ignore function.

Click three dots bottom of screen.

Next select account settings.

Scroll down and select ignored users.

Then type in name of user you want to ignore.

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by jagfox

[Jordanhill Jag]

3 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said:

You could always try quoting the full sentence and the one immediately after that.

"If this claim were true, we would expect to see a Director of Football at the Club, actually responsible for the recruitment of both the men’s and women’s teams.

No such Director of Football exists or has ever existed."

Your claim was false.

Yet again, a massive piece of overinterpretation, misrepresentation and augmentation of a statement. Full context of what Levi said:

This was a generic remark made against the backdrop of ensuring better co-ordination between different facets of the Club. It is literally about "'off-field' operations" not the recruitment strategies or footballing personnel of the men's and women's teams.

It's about ensuring that the disparate groups under the brand "Partick Thistle" work productively together, and better align their respective activities so they are complementary rather than in competition.

There is absolutely no suggestion of the football recruitment activities of the two teams being merged. None whatsoever.

There is absolutely no suggestion of "the integration of the women's team" being prioritised over the men's team. Literally none. You've made it up. Like you always do.

Regarding my claim being False - you have no idea if it is -or is not -so please stop making statements that you don't have any basis to make 

There were  discussions with Ian McCall regards this role - the reasons it went no further is the Reason I stated ( which you by and large confirmed would be the modus operandi if a Football Director was appointed ) ie being responsible for recruitment of Mens & Woman's Teams 

Just because you didn't know about the discussions  -gives you no right to throw about accusations of Falsehood 

regards integration statement by Levi -  it makes no mention of “ off field operations “ you simply added that to suit your argument 

Regards “ disparate groups” in essence thats the core problem

We are a Professional Football Club - when we start acting like one -we might just might start performing on the park and off it 

 

 

 

 

[Tom Hosie]

41 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

 please stop making statements that you don't have any basis to make 

 

 

 

 

Follow your own advice. 

[Jordanhill Jag]

Just now, Tom Hosie said:

Follow your own advice. 

In fairness you dont actually know who advised why McCall was not considered for the role of Football Director so your sort of jumping to conclusions 

[Woodstock Jag]

1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Regarding my claim being False - you have no idea if it is -or is not -so please stop making statements that you don't have any basis to make 

I know it to be false.

1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

There were  discussions with Ian McCall regards this role - the reasons it went no further is the Reason I stated ( which you by and large confirmed would be the modus operandi if a Football Director was appointed ) ie being responsible for recruitment of Mens & Woman's Teams 

No Jim that’s not what I said.

I said that IF YOUR CLAIM WERE TRUE it would suggest that (a) we have a Director of Football and that (b) that their remit is for both the men’s and women’s team.

The reality is that we don’t have a Director of Football, and that the recruitment arrangements for both teams are completely separate.

From this it follows that the reasons for the Club not hiring Ian McCall as a Director of Football had absolutely nothing to do with the women’s team.

Which is the thing you are making up.

1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Just because you didn't know about the discussions  -gives you no right to throw about accusations of Falsehood 

I know what happened in the discussions and I know that you are giving a distorted account, amounting to a falsehood. And I’ll repeat that allegation.

1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

regards integration statement by Levi -  it makes no mention of “ off field operations “ you simply added that to suit your argument

The phrase “off field operations” appears in the previous sentence of the same paragraph you quoted from Jim. Not just that, they are the words literally at the end of the previous sentence, from which the words you then quoted then flow. Without any truncation or interruption.

[Jaggernaut]

5 hours ago, eljaggo said:

I'm becoming fed up with this website.  Why can't people simply exclude posts appearing on their screen from others they think are spoiling the site. 

There were (maybe still are) a couple of posters on here a couple of years ago whose posts were toxic; they really were spoiling the forum for me. I finally used the "Ignore" function, and I've never seen anything by them since. Great solution! (I could check to see if they have gone, but I can't be bothered.)

I'm actually considering the same for somebody who constantly pollutes footballing threads with made up stories, twisted facts, and accusations.

[Jordanhill Jag]

54 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:

I know it to be false.

No Jim that’s not what I said.

I said that IF YOUR CLAIM WERE TRUE it would suggest that (a) we have a Director of Football and that (b) that their remit is for both the men’s and women’s team.

The reality is that we don’t have a Director of Football, and that the recruitment arrangements for both teams are completely separate.

From this it follows that the reasons for the Club not hiring Ian McCall as a Director of Football had absolutely nothing to do with the women’s team.

Which is the thing you are making up.

I know what happened in the discussions and I know that you are giving a distorted account, amounting to a falsehood. And I’ll repeat that allegation.

The phrase “off field operations” appears in the previous sentence of the same paragraph you quoted from Jim. Not just that, they are the words literally at the end of the previous sentence, from which the words you then quoted then flow. Without any truncation or interruption.

Well I will repeat the statement I quoted regards the reason -came from a former Club Director -so repeat all the allegations you want- and accuse me of lying if you wish 

The telephone call was a follow up to a text on a Groupchat when Alastair Creevy was initially  sacked - there were witnesses in the Group Chat to the text - I was in Venice Airport on my way to a Factory -when I took the call 

I was not aware of the discussions with McCall regards Director of Football prior to the Call - the information was unprompted from the Caller  

 

[stolenscone]

PLEASE STOP THIS.  PLEASE!!!

[stolenscone]

... or else say something different.

We get it now, we really do.

[eljaggo]

10 hours ago, jagfox said:

There's an ignore function.

Click three dots bottom of screen.

Next select account settings.

Scroll down and select ignored users.

Then type in name of user you want to ignore.

 

I know - I use it. 

[jagfox]

42 minutes ago, eljaggo said:

I know - I use it. 

What were you in about then?

[robphil]

On 9/29/2024 at 10:32 PM, jaggy said:

Another match thread hijacked 

Nine pages on a 1-0 defeat to Hamilton Academical. What a loquacious little group we are....

[Dick Dastardly]

7 minutes ago, robphil said:

Nine pages on a 1-0 defeat to Hamilton Academical. What a loquacious little group we are....

I think you will find one page on the defeat and 8 pages unrelated to it

[javeajag]

So back to topic …….doolan has to get his finger out as performances and results are simply not good enough.

1. We need to switch to a back four the back 3/5 has not worked 

2. We need to play someone in front of the back four 

3. We play a double pivot 

4. Play the two wide players but they need to defend as well as attack 

5 play two up front or go to 4 4 1 1 

6 Graham needs to come off if he’s not playing well or tired

7. Fitzy needs to some coaching and attention

at this stage points are more important than performances but both need to improve