JAGSMAN1968 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Remind us who signed these uninterested players You including Fitzy in that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erty13 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Not sure why the young goalkeeper was started he looked a bit out of his depth. Where was Mitchell, he was a sub but never warmed up. We subbed four midfielders, I think this affected the balance of the team in the second half. Not sure why at corners against airdrie we had every man defending. Why not leave one player upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 I thought Gary Caldwell was a positive appointment but had serious doubts after his first game. I was fairly neutral about Graham getting the interim gig until the end of the season but my heart sank when I saw our line-up. It looked an unbalanced side and unsurprisingly Turner's talents were wasted wide left. I had noted previously that Crawford was Graham's go to buddy for chats during breaks in play so not surprised to see him start...I think he is the least effective Thistle player I've ever watched. Chalmers with decent support from Megwa was our only threat. The team lost direction and a goal when Bannigan went off. Reid & Martin looked less than bang-average. No pattern of play other than pump it upfield and hope something happens. I was bored and past caring long before the end. I have arranged something for Friday...I'm not disappointed that the Livy game has been switched and I won't feel obliged to go to Firhill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Not fit enough ……! Brian Graham says his Partick Thistle squad simply is not fit enough after the Jags let a one-goal lead slip against Airdrieonians. Graham and Mark Wilson led the side for the first time on Saturday since being unveiled as the interim management team earlier in the week, with the former opening the scoring during the first half against Rhys McCabe’s struggling side. The Jags couldn’t see the win through though, and had little answer to Ben Wilson’s leveller after the break as the contest finished 1-1. “There were a few times where obviously decision-making has probably killed us,” Graham explained. “But the principles of what we were after in the first half was clearly there to see. “But then I think second half, you can see we tire and I think it's been an issue. The full season we're not fit enough and I thought the last 20 minutes we were on our feet.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 17 minutes ago, JAGSMAN1968 said: You including Fitzy in that?? He extended his contract although didn’t sign him. But if your putting all the blame on Fitzy for the season we are having and excusing Doolan then I would disagree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: Not fit enough ……! Brian Graham says his Partick Thistle squad simply is not fit enough after the Jags let a one-goal lead slip against Airdrieonians. Graham and Mark Wilson led the side for the first time on Saturday since being unveiled as the interim management team earlier in the week, with the former opening the scoring during the first half against Rhys McCabe’s struggling side. The Jags couldn’t see the win through though, and had little answer to Ben Wilson’s leveller after the break as the contest finished 1-1. “There were a few times where obviously decision-making has probably killed us,” Graham explained. “But the principles of what we were after in the first half was clearly there to see. “But then I think second half, you can see we tire and I think it's been an issue. The full season we're not fit enough and I thought the last 20 minutes we were on our feet.” Astonishing admission, what the hell have they been doing in training this season… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, JAG1970 said: Astonishing admission, what the hell have they been doing in training this season… And as captain and a leader on the pitch why didn’t he challenge this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Just now, Third Lanark said: And as captain and a leader on the pitch why didn’t he challenge this Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 48 minutes ago, eljaggo said: I suspect the ridiculously complicated club structure (Board/TJF/etc) will mitigate against a quick, clean decision about the new manager, and that a low risk/cheap option to appoint Graham becomes appealing. The only people with any responsibility for hiring the football manager are the Club Board. It is exactly as simple as under private ownership. They have a completely free hand to pick who they think is the best person for the job. TJF’s Board isn’t involved, just as it wasn’t involved in the decision to relieve the previous management team of its duties. It’s getting a little frustrating seeing fan ownership get blamed for things that have absolutely nothing to do with fan ownership. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: The only people with any responsibility for hiring the football manager are the Club Board. It is exactly as simple as under private ownership. They have a completely free hand to pick who they think is the best person for the job. TJF’s Board isn’t involved, just as it wasn’t involved in the decision to relieve the previous management team of its duties. It’s getting a little frustrating seeing fan ownership get blamed for things that have absolutely nothing to do with fan ownership. Fan ownership is not fan operation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 23 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Remind us who signed these uninterested players McCall signed BG , Bannigan, Fitzy , Turner , Stanway and Crawford first time around . Bottom line , these players are playing either with a lack of confidence or they are simply not good enough. My opinion is the Board had a knee jerk reaction to Kris Doolan , it hasn’t been great this year but Doolan should have been given more time to sort it out after what he had achieved over the last couple of seasons The decision to make BG the manager in the interim is going to come back to haunt us , today being an example with Mitchell being dropped for an untested keeper . Playing Kyle Turner as a left winger is all about keeping your mates happy as he persuaded Kyle to come back to Firhill Not sure it’s going to be a happy dressing room if BG doesn’t get the manager’s gig . Brian Graham as manager, no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTFC1942 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Stupid comments saying Doolan should have had more time, he was getting worse by every game and Graham will be just as bad. Get Lennon or Brown now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Another great result for Michael McIndoe with Edinburgh City today and their fans wax lyrical about him and what he has achieved in very trying circumstances. Again would rather we at least considered that way than Dodds, Lennon, Ferguson etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: McCall signed BG , Bannigan, Fitzy , Turner , Stanway and Crawford first time around . Bottom line , these players are playing either with a lack of confidence or they are simply not good enough. My opinion is the Board had a knee jerk reaction to Kris Doolan , it hasn’t been great this year but Doolan should have been given more time to sort it out after what he had achieved over the last couple of seasons The decision to make BG the manager in the interim is going to come back to haunt us , today being an example with Mitchell being dropped for an untested keeper . Playing Kyle Turner as a left winger is all about keeping your mates happy as he persuaded Kyle to come back to Firhill Not sure it’s going to be a happy dressing room if BG doesn’t get the manager’s gig . Brian Graham as manager, no thanks Not sure if Graham has already thrown the players under a bus with his comments about their fitness. Agree about Graham it’s a no thanks from me to him as manager as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, PTFC1942 said: Stupid comments saying Doolan should have had more time, he was getting worse by every game and Graham will be just as bad. Get Lennon or Brown now! Was that good today , I thought Airdrie deserved to win , we’ve been bad for the last 6 games , prior to that Doolan had won 8 out of the 10 League games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, elevenone said: Another great result for Michael McIndoe with Edinburgh City today and their fans wax lyrical about him and what he has achieved in very trying circumstances. Again would rather we at least considered that way than Dodds, Lennon, Ferguson etc This is the kind of manager we should be going for. He'll make the step up at somepoint and we'll miss out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 18 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Fan ownership is not fan operation Then. What's the benefit of fan ownership? We have slid badly downwards under ' fan ownership '. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 21 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: The only people with any responsibility for hiring the football manager are the Club Board. It is exactly as simple as under private ownership. They have a completely free hand to pick who they think is the best person for the job. TJF’s Board isn’t involved, just as it wasn’t involved in the decision to relieve the previous management team of its duties. It’s getting a little frustrating seeing fan ownership get blamed for things that have absolutely nothing to do with fan ownership. I can’t remember because there have been so many different posts about it but is there not 1 or 2 TJF reps on the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alb Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 10 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Not sure if Graham has already thrown the players under a bus with his comments about their fitness. Agree about Graham it’s a no thanks from me to him as manager as well The players and dools... Thought his goal celebration was very much I am the Messiah. As much as he'll make a decent coach or manager at one point in the future I don't believe that time is now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 19 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: McCall signed BG , Bannigan, Fitzy , Turner , Stanway and Crawford first time around . Bottom line , these players are playing either with a lack of confidence or they are simply not good enough. My opinion is the Board had a knee jerk reaction to Kris Doolan , it hasn’t been great this year but Doolan should have been given more time to sort it out after what he had achieved over the last couple of seasons The decision to make BG the manager in the interim is going to come back to haunt us , today being an example with Mitchell being dropped for an untested keeper . Playing Kyle Turner as a left winger is all about keeping your mates happy as he persuaded Kyle to come back to Firhill Not sure it’s going to be a happy dressing room if BG doesn’t get the manager’s gig . Brian Graham as manager, no thanks More time? We were getting progressively worse under him. He had no idea how to sort it. His recruitment was poor. And to say give him time because of what he done in previous 2 seasons? That's why this club is in a mess. Too cosy, too nice and beholding to club ' legends'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 34 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: And as captain and a leader on the pitch why didn’t he challenge this Maybe he did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I can’t remember because there have been so many different posts about it but is there not 1 or 2 TJF reps on the board? There is one TJF rep on a board of 7 and we are currently consulting on whether this should be discontinued. He does not take instructions from us and does not consult us on football employment decision that the Club takes. Which is absolutely the correct approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: Maybe he did? If he did, he was ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, eljaggo said: If he did, he was ineffective. So if Doolan told him to mind his own business that’s Graham’s fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Partick Thistle interim manager Brian Graham: "We need to continue to work them hard but we also need to be cautious because we need to keep them fresh. "We'll see how next week pans out. There could be a new manager in come Monday. Otherwise I'll keep preparing as properly as I can." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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