Lambies Lost Doo Posted April 7 Author Report Share Posted April 7 Interesting appointment. You cannot look at his Management record to compare with his Sporting Director role so as others have said. Clean slate. Experience inside and outside Scottish football. Let's see who the next manager is now! (I'm always interested to know who just missed out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, laukat said: On the plus side someone with no previous ties with the club so hopefully able to bring a fresh perspective. Downside his own managerial record is patchy at best and we don't really know his abilities as a Sporting Directors as he has only had 2 months in a similar role. However now he is in the building so I wish him well and I take it that his attention turns to who the new head coach is and recruitment for next season. I do have a slight fear that his recruitment will see more lower English league players come and we haven't had huge success with that. Perhaps his experience in Ireland might mean he has some good contacts and able to unearth some talent but again we have had limited success in that area. If he is looking at players from outside of Scotland then perhaps that requires a different type of Head Coach and maybe not someone that has spent most of their career in the Scottish Leagues? Thats my fear as well- that he only knows players at the English lower leagues and we have a similar situation to concentrating down south similar to Dunfermline and Falkirk under Hartley several years ago. But who knows I’m merely speculating. NI could be interesting - I can’t remember if that’s where Kevin Holt Don Thomas and Callum Morrison moved too and others who had done okay up here before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 29 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Interesting appointment. You cannot look at his Management record to compare with his Sporting Director role so as others have said. Clean slate. Experience inside and outside Scottish football. Let's see who the next manager is now! (I'm always interested to know who just missed out.) I don’t think it’s any surprise that one of them very likely had a first name of Ian as well 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Interesting appointment. You cannot look at his Management record to compare with his Sporting Director role so as others have said. Clean slate. Experience inside and outside Scottish football. Let's see who the next manager is now! (I'm always interested to know who just missed out.) Oh we can He was a failed manager and left his last sporting director role with Fylde sitting 22nd in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 hours ago, geecee said: Wouldn't know him if I bumped into him on Firhill Rd. What does a Sporting Director actually do. Couldn't name one from any club. Me too, but all the best to him. (Will it really lead to any more success?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 It will now certainly be more interesting if Graham and Wilson fail to get us promoted...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Good luck to the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Me too, but all the best to him. (Will it really lead to any more success?) It may not directly, but at least his remit will presumably be looking across the men’s team, women’s team and the academy to ensure an integrated approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 How do you integrate the men's and women's teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, eljaggo said: How do you integrate the men's and women's teams? Not directly, but we could develop a Club approach to things like recruitment & youth pathways that benefits both first teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Jaggernaut said: Me too, but all the best to him. (Will it really lead to any more success?) No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: His experience with Northern Ireland teams, especially their U21s, should be of benefit. Of all the home nations NI have had to scour the leagues more than others to find players. That process alone should be of value. I’m not sure about that LIB , I think we’re looking at Scottish based players as having to entice players from down South or elsewhere has a cost to it , relocating etc. I’m not sure the money on offer would be too much of an enticement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, sandy said: Not directly, but we could develop a Club approach to things like recruitment & youth pathways that benefits both first teams. How disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 There seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions on the first day of this new appointment as to particular pathways the appointee may go down. As said before, I am neutral on this appointment, neither disappointed nor excited. However, I am prepared to give our new Sporting Director a chance. To paraphrase Aragorn at the gates of Mordor, a day may come when I reach an informed conclusion as to the worth and effectiveness of this new appointee, but it is not this day. He has my support and best wishes meantime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Wasn’t sure how to interpret this sentence from the club statement: I met the General Manager Levi Gill and some of the Directors for the first time during the application process Wasnt clear whether it’s Levi Gill AND the directors he’s meeting for the first time or just the directors. Now I’m confused about how closely he worked with Levi in a prior role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 I am not surprised there is some scepticism about the appointment as I am sure there would have been irrespective of who was appointed. After all, it’s not as if there are loads of them in Scotland and certainly not in the lower leagues. However, as I understand the role of a Sporting Director, he isn’t just going to rely on his contacts and what leagues he has worked in, he’s meant to use data analytics as well to find players that fit the playing style of the club, whatever that is now going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: I am not surprised there is some scepticism about the appointment as I am sure there would have been irrespective of who was appointed. After all, it’s not as if there are loads of them in Scotland and certainly not in the lower leagues. However, as I understand the role of a Sporting Director, he isn’t just going to rely on his contacts and what leagues he has worked in, he’s meant to use data analytics as well to find players that fit the playing style of the club, whatever that is now going to be. This. Aren't Hearts using their tie up with Brighton to look at potential recruits with Brighton's data analytic system? There is more and more data available about players at every level, I hope that the new SD will be using that and his contacts and a scouting system to find the next Thistle stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanito Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 A well as being a coach, scout, player and manager, he has a masters in management and is studying a degree in sports directorship at Manchester University. His CV fits the advert but we will see if it translates to what we need at Firhill and within our budget? The problem with scottish football clubs is its difficult to add value as the revenue is mostly on field results dictated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, partickthedog said: There seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions on the first day of this new appointment as to particular pathways the appointee may go down. As said before, I am neutral on this appointment, neither disappointed nor excited. However, I am prepared to give our new Sporting Director a chance. To paraphrase Aragorn at the gates of Mordor, a day may come when I reach an informed conclusion as to the worth and effectiveness of this new appointee, but it is not this day. He has my support and best wishes meantime. my views entirely too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: I’m not sure about that LIB , I think we’re looking at Scottish based players as having to entice players from down South or elsewhere has a cost to it , relocating etc. I’m not sure the money on offer would be too much of an enticement Good points but it could still be construed as another string to his bow. Identifying prospective signings from Scotland has to be a priority. A quality that say McCall and Barrowman possess. I'm just hoping that we'll have a wider net with this fella than McCall with his Scottish knowledge and Kenny Moyes aided assistance elsewhere. I'm a convinced believer in the need/benefit of splitting managerial roles between SD & Head Coach. I understand others think differently so I'm really hoping we've got this appointment spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyhouston Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: I’m not sure about that LIB , I think we’re looking at Scottish based players as having to entice players from down South or elsewhere has a cost to it , relocating etc. I’m not sure the money on offer would be too much of an enticement eventually someone with a brain cell 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Just like some others, I’m hoping this works out well, despite my doubts about the need for the role. However, surely the club directors have made a rod for their own backs here in that they’ll all have to quit if it doesn’t work out. One thing’s for sure - interesting times ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, jlsarmy said: I’m not sure about that LIB , I think we’re looking at Scottish based players as having to entice players from down South or elsewhere has a cost to it , relocating etc. I’m not sure the money on offer would be too much of an enticement Were you appointed as Sporting Director then I'm sure you'd have gone down this road but I think we will need to wait and see just where Barraclough takes us, starting with the appointment of coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 After Saturday, the first thing we need is some of that proverbial new sporting director bounce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, ChiThistle said: Wasn’t sure how to interpret this sentence from the club statement: I met the General Manager Levi Gill and some of the Directors for the first time during the application process Wasnt clear whether it’s Levi Gill AND the directors he’s meeting for the first time or just the directors. Now I’m confused about how closely he worked with Levi in a prior role. He didn’t …..gills friend was Lee Clarke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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