Jag Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 13 minutes ago, Big Col said: So the shortlist of new managers will now be shorter, with Wilson and Graham being removed from it. Hopefully, but I worry what the rest of the list looks like - if there even is one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 45 minutes ago, Big Col said: So the shortlist of new managers will now be shorter, with Wilson and Graham being removed from it. They could still get us promoted. Unlikely, but it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 Seeing as I am too old now for rolling easter eggs and nothing better to do I will post this. Not sure where to post this but seems to be the one doing the rumours tonight. “Glover was in cappielow yesterday before his team left to go to blackpool. He said there was a guy talking to dougie shaking his hand saying I’ll not see You befor you leave but all the best with Patrick next year. And apparently dougie sort of grabbed him away from where glover and all tnat where standing and told Him to keep quiet as it’s not public yet” Taken from Morton's fan forum (and I don't know who Glover is). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 52 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: Seeing as I am too old now for rolling easter eggs and nothing better to do I will post this. Not sure where to post this but seems to be the one doing the rumours tonight. “Glover was in cappielow yesterday before his team left to go to blackpool. He said there was a guy talking to dougie shaking his hand saying I’ll not see You befor you leave but all the best with Patrick next year. And apparently dougie sort of grabbed him away from where glover and all tnat where standing and told Him to keep quiet as it’s not public yet” Taken from Morton's fan forum (and I don't know who Glover is). Who’s Patrick 😉 there is a mythical Patrick Thistle somewhere 😂 Whos Glover? Guessing not Danny. A youth coach at Morton or something maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: Who’s Patrick 😉 there is a mythical Patrick Thistle somewhere 😂 Whos Glover? Guessing not Danny. A youth coach at Morton or something maybe I don't know but to be honest I would have my doubts that we have a deal in place for Imrie (or anybody else) at this stage. Just some online speculation (but if Imrie gets the job then I told you so first). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Rumours saying Imrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, javeajag said: Rumours saying Imrie. Anybody but him,,, what track record has he got,,,,,,nothing............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, javeajag said: Rumours saying Imrie. Archie as his assistant? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 I might be in a small minority but I'm not against Imrie and I can see the sense in it if it happened. It feels to me like the current squad and season is the last act of the team and style McCall built. Doolan did for a while get the team playing better but I think one of his issues was that despite quite a few transfer windows he still relied heavily on McCall signings and signed players to play with them therefore the style and attitude of the team hasn't changed all that much. I think Rhys McCabe could be ok but probably would continue the same style as Doolan tried and not sure that's what they need. We really need someone who will implement a completely different style and attitude whilst doing so with a lesser budget and making best use of the players that are under contract. That's pretty much what Imrie has done at Morton. I know Imrie come across as a bit of wee bit of a ned and I well remember his robust performances for the Clyde team was largely a Maryhill Juniors select. However he doesn't suffer fools demands 100% effort and he would kick his granny for 3 points which is an attitude we don't have enough of. He's kept a poor Morton squad competitive in the league when most of it was the squad that he inherited and which was regularly in the relegation playoffs. Imrie also seems to have the knack of getting performances and another season or two out of players that looked done at other clubs. That was very much Lambie's real strength and both had the same weakness of not really wanting to give younger players a go. Not convinced McCabe or Imrie are the answer but equally I could see the sense in either being appointed. Unless we are going for some complete unknown I'm not sure there is any better candidates in Scotland that we could reasonably get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 So far we have had someone on here say McCabe was offered and accepted the job, now Imrie is being mentioned whilst there are those who think regardless of how the next couple of games go and any play off matches that Graham will get it as the cheap option. So that probably means it is none of those three. I assume that people will have put their name forward when Doolan left and that the Sporting Director will have his own thoughts as well, my hope is that we can get the right person appointed and in a timeframe that does not leave us behind others in terms of getting the squad in place for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Imrie might fit affordability given (it seems) we will have a lower budget next season, plus have a sporting director to pay. Maybe others are interested but not at the wage we are offering. Imagine it happens and Doolan replaces him at Morton… what an interesting season that would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtastic Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Personally feel that the last thing we need at this point is to put in place a head coach who is already an unpopular figure to say the least amongst our support. If Imrie came in and didn’t hit the ground running he wouldn’t get much of a grace period from a sizeable portion of our fans and it could become a toxic environment pretty quickly. Not for going down the must have thistle connections route either, but don’t think Imrie is worth the risk of it all going south quickly to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 5 minutes ago, Jagtastic said: Personally feel that the last thing we need at this point is to put in place a head coach who is already an unpopular figure to say the least amongst our support. If Imrie came in and didn’t hit the ground running he wouldn’t get much of a grace period from a sizeable portion of our fans and it could become a toxic environment pretty quickly. Not for going down the must have thistle connections route either, but don’t think Imrie is worth the risk of it all going south quickly to be honest. I agree with you. I don’t think Imrie has anything to offer Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falklandal1 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said: So far we have had someone on here say McCabe was offered and accepted the job, now Imrie is being mentioned whilst there are those who think regardless of how the next couple of games go and any play off matches that Graham will get it as the cheap option. So that probably means it is none of those three. I assume that people will have put their name forward when Doolan left and that the Sporting Director will have his own thoughts as well, my hope is that we can get the right person appointed and in a timeframe that does not leave us behind others in terms of getting the squad in place for next season. Sooner the appointment made the better Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alb Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 From his previous time at Motherwell, is there any senior pros who might be looking to move into coaching/management....so know the Scottish game and already know the sd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Not against it but if Barraclough replaces Graham with a coach, with whom he's closely associated, he'll be adding pressure on both their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 (edited) I’m disappointed that McCabe is not on the top 4 candidates and feel there’s been a bit of snobbery reading some comments from those with the club such as on Facebook- what’s he done, he’s too inexperienced, it’s only been Airdrie etc. very disappointing and unprofessional to see. Ironically McCabe seems to be the most popular Choice for the fans but it’s comments from people who I would associate very closely with the board and in the know that give an impression of his application was dismissed almost out of hand, or a look down attitude because he was with Airdrie (hardly like he supports them) By contrast wouldn’t surprise me if Kettlewell is on the list. A guy who said recently he wanted a year away from football - that should set alarm bells ringing. He doesn’t like criticism and was clashing with Motherwell fans. Sadly if you don’t like criticism a football manager is not really the job for you. Although he got promotion, only after he was there when county were relegated that was with Roy McGregors huge budget. He certainly won’t have that luxury here. Would be very disappointed if it’s him. Edited April 21 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 10 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I’m disappointed that McCabe is not on the top 4 candidates and feel there’s been a bit of snobbery reading some comments from those with the club such as on Facebook- what’s he done, he’s too inexperienced, it’s only been Airdrie etc. very disappointing and unprofessional to see. Ironically McCabe seems to be the most popular Choice for the fans but it’s comments from people who I would associate very closely with the board and in the know that give an impression of his application was dismissed almost out of hand, or a look down attitude because he was with Airdrie (hardly like he supports them) By contrast wouldn’t surprise me if Kettlewell is on the list. A guy who said recently he wanted a year away from football - that should set alarm bells ringing. He doesn’t like criticism and was clashing with Motherwell fans. Sadly if you don’t like criticism a football manager is not really the job for you. Although he got promotion, only after he was there when county were relegated that was with Roy McGregors huge budget. He certainly won’t have that luxury here. Would be very disappointed if it’s him. Do you know what the clash between Kettlewell and the Motherwell fans was about ? Whatever it was, it was bad enough that it was affecting his family and that was why he quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 15 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Do you know what the clash between Kettlewell and the Motherwell fans was about ? Whatever it was, it was bad enough that it was affecting his family and that was why he quit. How do you know he wasn’t going to be sacked? Motherwell fans were calling for his head. He didn’t like criticism before either there or at Ross County- to be fair know one probably does (but that goes hand in hand with being a football manager unfortunately.) I also find it strange him saying he is taking a year off then would end up back here after a couple of months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 35 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I’m disappointed that McCabe is not on the top 4 candidates and feel there’s been a bit of snobbery reading some comments from those with the club such as on Facebook- what’s he done, he’s too inexperienced, it’s only been Airdrie etc. very disappointing and unprofessional to see. Ironically McCabe seems to be the most popular Choice for the fans but it’s comments from people who I would associate very closely with the board and in the know that give an impression of his application was dismissed almost out of hand, or a look down attitude because he was with Airdrie (hardly like he supports them) By contrast wouldn’t surprise me if Kettlewell is on the list. A guy who said recently he wanted a year away from football - that should set alarm bells ringing. He doesn’t like criticism and was clashing with Motherwell fans. Sadly if you don’t like criticism a football manager is not really the job for you. Although he got promotion, only after he was there when county were relegated that was with Roy McGregors huge budget. He certainly won’t have that luxury here. Would be very disappointed if it’s him. How do you know MxCabe is not in the top 4 ? If you know who the top 4 are (if such a thing exists, which I doubt) can you please share as I’m sure we would all like to know. Why do you say that McCabe is the most popular choice for the fans ? I have seen some promoting him on here, but far more disagreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: How do you know MxCabe is not in the top 4 ? If you know who the top 4 are (if such a thing exists, which I doubt) can you please share as I’m sure we would all like to know. Why do you say that McCabe is the most popular choice for the fans ? I have seen some promoting him on here, but far more disagreeing. I’m not saying every fan wants McCabe of course they don’t. But out of all the posts not just on here but on Facebook, pie and bovril etc he’s the most popular. I don’t know how twitter works so of course it maybe different there. Javajag has stated it here - he’s been right about things previously and it’s been posted elsewhere by another so. I have no reason to doubt him. A couple of people on Facebook with strong links to the board were rubbishing McCabe as well when people were suggesting his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 12 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: How do you know he wasn’t going to be sacked? Motherwell fans were calling for his head. He didn’t like criticism before either there or at Ross County- to be fair know one probably does (but that goes hand in hand with being a football manager unfortunately.) I also find it strange him saying he is taking a year off then would end up back here after a couple of months You haven’t answered my question. The point I was making was that whatever the disagreement was - it was affecting his family and that was why he quit. He might have got sacked as they had just lost successive matches to St. Johnstone. At the time, they were 1 point off the top six. Like so many clubs find out, changing your manager so late doesn’t often help and their situation got slightly worse with the new guy. People change their minds - he’s been sitting on his hands for 3 months. Maybe he’s decided that’s enough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 4 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: You haven’t answered my question. The point I was making was that whatever the disagreement was - it was affecting his family and that was why he quit. He might have got sacked as they had just lost successive matches to St. Johnstone. At the time, they were 1 point off the top six. Like so many clubs find out, changing your manager so late doesn’t often help and their situation got slightly worse with the new guy. People change their minds - he’s been sitting on his hands for 3 months. Maybe he’s decided that’s enough time. You have not answered my question? How do you know he was not going to be sacked and he walked before it? Motherwell fans were obviously not happy with him as manager, tactics, results etc. He claims his family was abused etc - Motherwell fan’s claim it didn’t happen. There’s obviously 2 stories. Shocking if it happened, be critical of a manager but there’s a line not to cross and abuse of family members is miles over that line- there are 2 sets of supporters that I wouldn’t put it past them to abuse someone’s family- Motherwell would not be one of them. I’ve never seen any history in relation to abusing a managers family from that set of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 44 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: You have not answered my question? How do you know he was not going to be sacked and he walked before it? Motherwell fans were obviously not happy with him as manager, tactics, results etc. He claims his family was abused etc - Motherwell fan’s claim it didn’t happen. There’s obviously 2 stories. Shocking if it happened, be critical of a manager but there’s a line not to cross and abuse of family members is miles over that line- there are 2 sets of supporters that I wouldn’t put it past them to abuse someone’s family- Motherwell would not be one of them. I’ve never seen any history in relation to abusing a managers family from that set of fans. I think I did answer your question. I said that he might have been sacked as he had just lost successive games to St Johnstone. As it happens, I don’t think he has a great managerial record as a solo manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: I think I did answer your question. I said that he might have been sacked as he had just lost successive games to St Johnstone. As it happens, I don’t think he has a great managerial record as a solo manager. Fair enough I agree I don’t think he has a great managerial record either and would have struggled without toy McGregors huge backing Edited April 21 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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