JeanieD Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 I see Baz is available!!!🙀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 7 minutes ago, JeanieD said: I see Baz is available!!!🙀 I think he has said he only wants to manage The Rangers but McCann and Dodds could be options that are being looked at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 16 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: I think he has said he only wants to manage The Rangers but McCann and Dodds could be options that are being looked at. I hope not. Any of those 3 as our new head coach and I think Barraclough might have a very short tenure I would have thought McCann and Dodds are more Kilmarnock's style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Whoever is our new manager/coach, I hope next season they can coach our players to pass the ball in front of their team mate, look to go forward with their first touch and get back to some entertaining football. That would already see a marked improvement on this season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 15 minutes ago, King Kenny said: Whoever is our new manager/coach, I hope next season they can coach our players to pass the ball in front of their team mate, look to go forward with their first touch and get back to some entertaining football. That would already see a marked improvement on this season. Specifically sorting out the midfield-to-attacker connection. The metric for gauging progress in this area next season should be the number of times a midfielder pauses and holds his hands up like “why the f**k isn’t anyone moving?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, King Kenny said: Whoever is our new manager/coach, I hope next season they can coach our players to pass the ball in front of their team mate, look to go forward with their first touch and get back to some entertaining football. That would already see a marked improvement on this season. We might even think about keeping possession from kick off rather than a kick in to touch. Plus it is allowed to take a quick throw in and they don't all have to be down the line either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 And the throw-ins are surely the easiest issue to fix. We're so ponderous except when they've obviously been told to up the tempo. Ponderous shouldn't be an option, unless we're seeing a game out. Some of the other issues with our play are trickier - state of the pitch, one dimensional over-dependency on BG scoring gameplan etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 (edited) I do not believe that losing Brian Graham next season necessarily means we are losing a 20-goal-a-season striker in the metaphorical sense. Despite having such a prolific scorer, we only managed one more goal than Morton this season. For me, that highlights the real issue, which is our one-dimensional approach. Everything is geared towards getting the ball wide and crossing it to Graham. Our midfield is completely ineffective when it comes to creating chances through the middle. The fact that Bannigan and Crawford, our two mainstays in central midfield, failed to score a single goal between them all season is frankly embarrassing. It also says a lot about our recruitment strategy. Look at Morton. Their more defensive central midfielders, Blues and Lyall, managed to score seven goals between them. That is the kind of contribution we are sorely lacking. If Graham does move on, we need to focus on changing both our playing style and our recruitment approach. A 20-goal-a-season striker is far easier to replace if the midfield can contribute a fair share of goals. Falkirk did not win the league with a particularly prolific centre forward. They did it by not relying on one focal point and instead having four players who each scored at least eight goals. While Graham’s goals have undoubtedly carried us, they have also kept us stuck playing in a predictable way. If he is not here next season, I am genuinely interested to see how the new coach reshapes our attack. He might not be as big a loss as some fear, provided a few of our attack-minded players step up and find the net. Edited May 18 by Yellow & Redneck 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Don’t think we will be waiting long to find out what’s happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 25 minutes ago, Yellow & Redneck said: I do not believe that losing Brian Graham next season necessarily means we are losing a 20-goal-a-season striker in the metaphorical sense. Despite having such a prolific scorer, we only managed one more goal than Morton this season. For me, that highlights the real issue, which is our one-dimensional approach. Everything is geared towards getting the ball wide and crossing it to Graham. Our midfield is completely ineffective when it comes to creating chances through the middle. The fact that Bannigan and Crawford, our two mainstays in central midfield, failed to score a single goal between them all season is frankly embarrassing. It also says a lot about our recruitment strategy. Look at Morton. Their more defensive central midfielders, Blues and Lyall, managed to score seven goals between them. That is the kind of contribution we are sorely lacking. If Graham does move on, we need to focus on changing both our playing style and our recruitment approach. A 20-goal-a-season striker is far easier to replace if the midfield can contribute a fair share of goals. Falkirk did not win the league with a particularly prolific centre forward. They did it by not relying on one focal point and instead having four players who each scored at least eight goals. While Graham’s goals have undoubtedly carried us, they have also kept us stuck playing in a predictable way. If he is not here next season, I am genuinely interested to see how the new coach reshapes our attack. He might not be as big a loss as some fear, provided a few of our attack-minded players step up and find the net. I think that Robbie Crawford notched one at Hampden v Queen's Park, but I am totally in agreement with your overall point. The comparison with Falkirk is particularly telling. Timed arrival in the box at the end of a speedy move a la Frank Lampard or driving into the box a la Declan Rice are so much more potentially productive than our slow down and spread it wide approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 51 minutes ago, thornwoodjag said: Don’t think we will be waiting long to find out what’s happening. 👀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: 👀 Not long at all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 5 minutes ago, thornwoodjag said: Not long at all ! 👀 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QXBoy Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, partickthedog said: I think that Robbie Crawford notched one at Hampden v Queen's Park, but I am totally in agreement with your overall point. The comparison with Falkirk is particularly telling. Timed arrival in the box at the end of a speedy move a la Frank Lampard or driving into the box a la Declan Rice are so much more potentially productive than our slow down and spread it wide approach. Lampard, Rice? What about "The Ghost" - ALBERT CRAIG? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 3 hours ago, QXBoy said: Lampard, Rice? What about "The Ghost" - ALBERT CRAIG? I heard it's in the bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, QXBoy said: Lampard, Rice? What about "The Ghost" - ALBERT CRAIG? Posted missing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 13 hours ago, thornwoodjag said: Don’t think we will be waiting long to find out what’s happening. 10 hours ago, thornwoodjag said: Not long at all ! 👀👀👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 I see Dundee sacked Tony Docherty. Not happy with their results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 Re the goals from Midfield (or rather lack of). From a central midfield point of view Stanway (2), MacKenzie & Turner contributed to a mere 4 goals. Robinson produced a more respectable 3 goals. Martin not being a like for like replacement would very unlikely have added to the total, regardless of injury. So it looks like a total of 7 league goals from central mid. I'm far from certain none of those 7 goals didn't come from set plays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Re the goals from Midfield (or rather lack of). From a central midfield point of view Stanway (2), MacKenzie & Turner contributed to a mere 4 goals. Robinson produced a more respectable 3 goals. Martin not being a like for like replacement would very unlikely have added to the total, regardless of injury. So it looks like a total of 7 league goals from central mid. I'm far from certain none of those 7 goals didn't come from set plays! Turner's was.a penalty v Ayr at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Re the goals from Midfield (or rather lack of). From a central midfield point of view Stanway (2), MacKenzie & Turner contributed to a mere 4 goals. Robinson produced a more respectable 3 goals. Martin not being a like for like replacement would very unlikely have added to the total, regardless of injury. So it looks like a total of 7 league goals from central mid. I'm far from certain none of those 7 goals didn't come from set plays! We also lost a goal threat from Milne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 8 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: We also lost a goal threat from Milne. At both ends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 What’s Owen Coyle doing these days, is he still managing a team in India? He was apparently at Firhill for the Livi game. 2+2 =100 probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggymct Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 (edited) Alan Nixon who has been a reliable source of info in the past has said its Graham, Imrie, McPake and Paul Caddis on the shortlist. of them i would go for Graham or Caddis could be an interesting one. Caddis has a 47% win rate at Hereford and may well have good contacts down south. ETA : from Facebook Edited May 19 by jaggymct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 7 minutes ago, jaggymct said: Alan Nixon who has been a reliable source of info in the past has said its Graham, Imrie, McPake and Paul Caddis on the shortlist. of them i would go for Graham or Caddis could be an interesting one. Caddis has a 57% win rate at Hereford and may well have good contacts down south McPake? Not McCabe? Caddis is an interesting one, if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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