Jaggernaut Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, laukat said: Nixon now reporting Graham has said no. We seem to be dragging our feet on this process and in danger of losing candidates because we didn't move fast enough. Literally elected a new Pope faster than we've appointed a Head coach Our Head Coach is more important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 17 minutes ago, Duke Gekantawa said: But we've never had any interest in Murray or McCabe as fqr as I know. Surely we shouldn't just be appointing managers simply because they might be quickly available even if for whatever reason they've not even made the shortlist? No but we should be appointing managers who know the championship well, know the transfer market well and have done relatively decent in the championship and they both tick that box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 30 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: Interesting that if the Falkirk rumour is true he would take an assistant role rather than be his own man, albeit premier league v championship clubs, so surely something else is also at play? Our budget is poor or he’d rather work with McGlynn than Barraclough… All rumour and speculation of course. Or maybe he simply wanted to move and maximise his earnings ….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: No but we should be appointing managers who know the championship well, know the transfer market well and have done relatively decent in the championship and they both tick that box Selecting a manager with relatively decent championship credentials, who knows the championship well and recruits from that market would suggest our ambitions are remaining as a championship club. I'm not saying anyone on the rumoured shortlist would be any better but I don't think McCabe or Murray would be that great appointments either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Peak rumour mongering and gossip on this. It's pathetic. Whoever is leaking to the press or whatever is triggering this should be ashamed of themselves. We shouldn't know there's a shortlist of four. We shouldn't know Brian Graham has turned us down. This isn't how recruitment is conducted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 9 minutes ago, fenski said: Peak rumour mongering and gossip on this. It's pathetic. Whoever is leaking to the press or whatever is triggering this should be ashamed of themselves. We shouldn't know there's a shortlist of four. We shouldn't know Brian Graham has turned us down. This isn't how recruitment is conducted. To be honest it is in football, everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 43 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: look how long it took Killie to appoint a new manager. look at how long its taken us and thats with a sporting director. We should have got Murray or McCabe within a week of Doolan being sacked - dont know if its snobbery or what but its becoming a real shambles Our process does look naive at best. Its entirely predictable that come the end of the season other managerial vacancies would appear and other candidates would come along. Only thing that slightly unusual is the volume of premiership vacancies. So to have a process that wasn't going to after the end of the season was always going to throw up the possibility that applicants wouldn't hang around waiting on us making a decision. Sticking to a process that only looks at applicants also now looks daft when guys like Neilson are available. Whilst I can get behind Imrie getting the job, I would hope that we are not just going to the next best applicant and have already put feelers out to McCabe, Neilson etc to see if they are viable rather than dogmatically following the process If not we are in danger that Imrie knocks us back and we end up with McPake by default. I would not be renewing my season ticket if our incompetence leads to appointing someone like McPake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 14 minutes ago, fenski said: Peak rumour mongering and gossip on this. It's pathetic. Whoever is leaking to the press or whatever is triggering this should be ashamed of themselves. We shouldn't know there's a shortlist of four. We shouldn't know Brian Graham has turned us down. This isn't how recruitment is conducted. Big problem is when one of these rumours accidentally hits on the truth. Leaves the club and its interview process open to criticism from candidates. The best thing is to continue with the recruitment stages and just ignore the speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 59 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: No but we should be appointing managers who know the championship well, know the transfer market well and have done relatively decent in the championship and they both tick that box It's a Head Coach that we're appointing. Knowing the league well would be an asset. The transfer market far less so. Previous performance in the league of less importance to training methods, tactical awareness etc and other attributes associated with being a Head Coach. For instance Ian McCall ticks a few boxes as a Manager but virtually zilch as a Head Coach. Personally I thought McCabe might have been in the frame as he appears to have Airdrie well coached. No way of knowing if he even applied for the job. We certainly wouldn't have approached him as he's still got a playing contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 24 minutes ago, scotty said: Big problem is when one of these rumours accidentally hits on the truth. Leaves the club and its interview process open to criticism from candidates. The best thing is to continue with the recruitment stages and just ignore the speculation. Of course, it could be candidate(s) or their agents doing the gossiping. Must be embarrassing for anyone involved, who actually cares about the reputation of the organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelees jag Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 43 minutes ago, fenski said: Peak rumour mongering and gossip on this. It's pathetic. Whoever is leaking to the press or whatever is triggering this should be ashamed of themselves. We shouldn't know there's a shortlist of four. We shouldn't know Brian Graham has turned us down. This isn't how recruitment is conducted. I hears 2nd hand this morning he had turned it down. That came originally from a prominent TJF member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, laukat said: Nixon now reporting Graham has said no. We seem to be dragging our feet on this process and in danger of losing candidates because we didn't move fast enough. Literally elected a new Pope faster than we've appointed a Head coach Well, I mean, when you have the choice between an American and anybody else, you take the American - no questions asked, right??? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 I just wonder what other club would be so unambitious to appoint Brian Graham. Clearly someone who had already accepted that they want to stay in the Championship. Or does that only apply if he's already here? I'm not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, Whitelees jag said: I hears 2nd hand this morning he had turned it down. That came originally from a prominent TJF member Prominent TJF member? Just a supporter then? If you could pass back through the chain of sweetie wives - please shut the fck up - you're damaging the reputation of the club you claim to support. Who would apply to be manager or whatever at an organisation if you think there's a risk the business is going to be conducted in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 I no longer have faith in the 👀 emoji and feel we should vote towards either 🔭 or 🔮 when it comes to finding new manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 59 minutes ago, fenski said: Peak rumour mongering and gossip on this. It's pathetic. Whoever is leaking to the press or whatever is triggering this should be ashamed of themselves. We shouldn't know there's a shortlist of four. We shouldn't know Brian Graham has turned us down. This isn't how recruitment is conducted. Totally agree with this, what a mess it is becoming. A delay in getting a coach will mean less time to overhaul the squad too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, fenski said: Prominent TJF member? Just a supporter then? If you could pass back through the chain of sweetie wives - please shut the fck up - you're damaging the reputation of the club you claim to support. Who would apply to be manager or whatever at an organisation if you think there's a risk the business is going to be conducted in public. Thats a very fair comment. However I suspect when you have a process thats months long and you get updates form the chairman saying we are "at advanced stages" that the length of process has created pressure for gossip. It was poor when it go leaked that Imrie applied, worse when the 4 man shortlist was leaked and even worse yesterday when a few sources were indicating it was done and Graham would be announced. For the gossip to have so much substance means that people are party to the process who can't keep their mouth shut. The longer the process and the more steps in the process the more likely someone gets knowledge that either they shouldn't have or starts sharing information that they shouldn't. For example last Friday was known to be the final interviews. If there wall in person then anyone working at Firhill or Petershill probably could observe who the candidates were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelees jag Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 8 minutes ago, fenski said: Prominent TJF member? Just a supporter then? If you could pass back through the chain of sweetie wives - please shut the fck up - you're damaging the reputation of the club you claim to support. Who would apply to be manager or whatever at an organisation if you think there's a risk the business is going to be conducted in public. No not just a supporter but a well known figure in the TJF. maybe have a look at the most prominent figures. There like Isa people have to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, Whitelees jag said: No not just a supporter but a well known figure in the TJF. maybe have a look at the most prominent figures. There like Isa people have to know. But you didn't hear from a "well known figure". You heard it second hand! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 (edited) I’d imagine questions may need to be asked of the Club Board in terms of the length of time this appointment has taken and the leaks surrounding it. Given the impact on preparing for Season 2025/26, do we still have confidence in them? Edited May 29 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Just now, sandy said: I’d imagine questions may need to be asked of the Club Board in terms of the length of time this appointment has taken and the leaks surrounding it. Given the impact on preparing for Season 2025/26, do we still have confidence in them? No and part of me wonders if Graham said no, that it was because he thought the way we were doing business was bit of a shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Probably just need to wait until the dominoes fall and all the positions are filled. Then the Board (Brian Graham as well maybe) will be able to discuss what exactly happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, laukat said: Our process does look naive at best. Its entirely predictable that come the end of the season other managerial vacancies would appear and other candidates would come along. Only thing that slightly unusual is the volume of premiership vacancies. So to have a process that wasn't going to after the end of the season was always going to throw up the possibility that applicants wouldn't hang around waiting on us making a decision. Sticking to a process that only looks at applicants also now looks daft when guys like Neilson are available. Whilst I can get behind Imrie getting the job, I would hope that we are not just going to the next best applicant and have already put feelers out to McCabe, Neilson etc to see if they are viable rather than dogmatically following the process If not we are in danger that Imrie knocks us back and we end up with McPake by default. I would not be renewing my season ticket if our incompetence leads to appointing someone like McPake Out of likes but great post mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 So much for our £50.000 plus sporting director, his first task and makes a pig's ear of it, gawd help us in the transfer market... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McD said: So much for our £50.000 plus sporting director, his first task and makes a pig's ear of it, gawd help us in the transfer market... Aye, if he had only refrained from all that posting on social media under all those different assumed names .... ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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