1876 Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 I would say lets see how bgg gets on first so far so good big game Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robphil Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Why Does a Club the Size of Thistle need a "Sporting Director" ? If you're Barcelona then you can afford about half a dozen SDs all reported down the line. But if we choose the right fella' for the manager's office then the money would be better spent by someone who can influence us on the pitch. We have made a few mistakes over the years - notably allowing Ian McCall to slip away after Archie left. McCall was youngish with fresh ideas and an impressive contacts file. Yet we allowed him to reject us because he didn't want to be the one to replace Archie. We have to identify the BEST young managerial prospect available and jettison the notion of an SD. Sorry to be so long winded - it's the opioids!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 38 minutes ago, robphil said: If you're Barcelona then you can afford about half a dozen SDs all reported down the line. But if we choose the right fella' for the manager's office then the money would be better spent by someone who can influence us on the pitch. We have made a few mistakes over the years - notably allowing Ian McCall to slip away after Archie left. McCall was youngish with fresh ideas and an impressive contacts file. Yet we allowed him to reject us because he didn't want to be the one to replace Archie. We have to identify the BEST young managerial prospect available and jettison the notion of an SD. Sorry to be so long winded - it's the opioids!!!!! Not following the argument about McCall ? Are you really saying if we had offered him more money he wouldn’t have cared that he was replacing Archie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robphil Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Not following the argument about McCall ? Are you really saying if we had offered him more money he wouldn’t have cared that he was replacing Archie ? Not necessarily money as I understood it at the time. McCall couldn't get over the feeling that he was 'stealing' the job of someone he greatly admired. It is my belief that he only needed to be disabused of that notion and he would have been happy to join the Jags. But I may have been seriously misinformed, LJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 17 hours ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Do we have confirmation he's been interviewed? Sorry, I was being presumptuous and taking original post about him as read. I should have said "if" he has been interviewed for the post. I personally have no idea if he has or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 14 hours ago, milhouse said: What are the qualifications required to be a Sporting Director? If there was a financial role to it I get that might require specific things on the CV. https://vsiee.com/msc-in-sports-directorship/ https://uefaacademy.com/courses/sdp/ https://thepfsa.co.uk/careers/sporting-director/ https://www.ucfb.ac.uk/your-degree/executive-education/msc-sports-directorship/ This will give you an idea of what is covered on Sporting Directorship courses. They would be dealing with thing like budgets, strategies, tactical analysis, scouting network, performance goals etc. Unless we are looking for something else. If so, I don't really see the point. Just went on to website there. The job profile is attached. Role-Profile-Sporting-Director-1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, robphil said: If you're Barcelona then you can afford about half a dozen SDs all reported down the line. But if we choose the right fella' for the manager's office then the money would be better spent by someone who can influence us on the pitch. We have made a few mistakes over the years - notably allowing Ian McCall to slip away after Archie left. McCall was youngish with fresh ideas and an impressive contacts file. Yet we allowed him to reject us because he didn't want to be the one to replace Archie. We have to identify the BEST young managerial prospect available and jettison the notion of an SD. Sorry to be so long winded - it's the opioids!!!!! He was only one year older when he did become manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Or maybe we dont actually need a Sporting Director ? I've said previously that I'm torn between thinking it's either progressive & forward thinking or a complete waste of time. I'm still leaning towards the latter. I would be delighted if it turned out to be a great idea. I'm just not sure it will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieD Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 Is this not just the appointment of a Manager and Assistant Manager dressed up with different titles and a different set of responsibilities? Presumably the Board know what they are wanting from this approach - or perhaps that is being overly charitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robphil Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, partickthedog said: He was only one year older when he did become manager! Didn't think of that PTD; I do get seriously befuddled on occasion. You should do what my wife does - ignore me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, robphil said: Didn't think of that PTD; I do get seriously befuddled on occasion. You should do what my wife does - ignore me! No problem. I always appreciate your contributions and your wonderfully well recalled memories of past days and personalities. Following Partick Thistle is a regularly befuddling experience for all of us more than occasionally! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, robphil said: Not necessarily money as I understood it at the time. McCall couldn't get over the feeling that he was 'stealing' the job of someone he greatly admired. It is my belief that he only needed to be disabused of that notion and he would have been happy to join the Jags. But I may have been seriously misinformed, LJ Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jag said: https://vsiee.com/msc-in-sports-directorship/ https://uefaacademy.com/courses/sdp/ https://thepfsa.co.uk/careers/sporting-director/ https://www.ucfb.ac.uk/your-degree/executive-education/msc-sports-directorship/ This will give you an idea of what is covered on Sporting Directorship courses. They would be dealing with thing like budgets, strategies, tactical analysis, scouting network, performance goals etc. Unless we are looking for something else. If so, I don't really see the point. Just went on to website there. The job profile is attached. Role-Profile-Sporting-Director-1.pdfUnavailable Hmm, universities (no doubt advised by their own business managers) offering school-leavers academic degrees in all of those things. Not important if the student hasn't ever played sport at any level. Of course other transferrable skills from the degree course work include Excel and Powerpoint, not to mention how to get AI to write all of your assignments and correspondence. Sounds great, then the newly graduated MSc in sports directorship ends up working at reception or in the shop in the local sports centre, because they know SFA. Cynical? Moi? Edited March 14 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 16 hours ago, robphil said: We have to identify the BEST young managerial prospect available and jettison the notion of an SD. Not sure I agree with this. This would be an argument for having a sporting director in order to support a young or inexperienced manager. There is an argument that Doolan could have benefitted from an experienced mentor or coach but that ship has sailed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 On BBC Sportsound a few minutes ago, McCall confirmed that he had been interviewed for the PTFC Sporting Director post (but he was aware that others were also being interviewed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, partickthedog said: On BBC Sportsound a few minutes ago, McCall confirmed that he had been interviewed for the PTFC Sporting Director post (but he was aware that others were also being interviewed). He was at Firhill today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) Davidson sacked by QP Wonder if anyone thinking of the managers job at Firhill may be tempted by QP especially if Graham continues to get results and performances Edited March 15 by JAG1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 On 3/13/2025 at 10:19 PM, Jag said: Ian McCall doesn't have the qualifications to carry out the role of a Sporting Director. I therefore find it very strange that he has been interviewed for the post. Unless the board isn't actually looking for a Sporting Director after all. Listened to McCall on the radio , think he’s got memory loss re James Penrice , eventually never played him and swapped him for Tiff . If McCall gets the SD job it’s an absolute joke after we’ve just sacked him on his managerial record . Only PTFC !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 16 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: Davidson sacked by QP Wonder if anyone thinking of the managers job at Firhill may be tempted by QP especially if Graham continues to get results and performances Let’s not forget that it isn’t just Graham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 47 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Listened to McCall on the radio , think he’s got memory loss re James Penrice , eventually never played him and swapped him for Tiff . If McCall gets the SD job it’s an absolute joke after we’ve just sacked him on his managerial record . Only PTFC !! What’s the latest on your claim McCabe was being appointed our next manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 You have to laugh …..we have never had a sporting director before but I know McCall will be terrible …..I also know someone I’ve never heard of will be a great manager ……I mean no one here can predict who will be a successful manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Nothing to do with half of the current interim management team being a Thistle legend, but if the current run of results continues, why would we look elsewhere ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: Nothing to do with half of the current interim management team being a Thistle legend, but if the current run of results continues, why would we look elsewhere ? I think Graham suffers the same as McCall various people dont like them as a person or they don't fit the mould of what they believe Thistle should be about - but its about results and if Graham keeps producing the Goods why change - McCall can spot a player - why would he not be a favourite for the SD Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, javeajag said: You have to laugh …..we have never had a sporting director before but I know McCall will be terrible …..I also know someone I’ve never heard of will be a great manager ……I mean no one here can predict who will be a successful manager Tell me McCalls credentials to be a SD Has he got a proven track record to bring Academy prospects to first team football Has he got the Coaching Credentials or indeed his Coaching Badges to progress our Football Club If we’re going to be a “ progressive “ football club how can re - employing a sacked manager be the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 41 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Tell me McCalls credentials to be a SD Has he got a proven track record to bring Academy prospects to first team football Has he got the Coaching Credentials or indeed his Coaching Badges to progress our Football Club If we’re going to be a “ progressive “ football club how can re - employing a sacked manager be the way forward. Any chance you can stop avoiding the question and issue us with an update about your alleged in the know about McCabe being appointed? Or do you just make things up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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