lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 17 hours ago, javeajag said: Usually the coach and sd would identify a list of potential recruits then it’s over to the sd to get them over the line and do the paperwork. More or less the answer I was going to give to Lenziejag's query. I'd add by broadening the SD's remit to identifying if not a certain individual player, the "type of player" the Head Coach requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 29 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: More or less the answer I was going to give to Lenziejag's query. I'd add by broadening the SD's remit to identifying if not a certain individual player, the "type of player" the Head Coach requires. I understand what is required. It’s the how that I am not sure was that clear in Mark Wilson’s video. I don’t think Agents are going to want to deal with 2 people at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) It would be interesting to know how it all played out. Mark Wilson wasn't on the shortlist of four but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't a preferred candidate. Having worked as co-managers it would gave been weird for Graham and Wilson to be competing. Maybe Mark Wilson was always intended as a key part of the Brian Graham option, potentially continuing as the match-time manager. This being the case, if that was the preferred model, and Brian Graham turned it down last minute, Mark Wilson would be the obvious next option. Do we reckon that's how it went? Also, if this is the case, I wonder if Brian Graham continuing with Thistle, perhaps as assistant manager, is really so unfeasible. Particularly given that he has a contract. It depends why he turned us down, but if he just decided that he'd rather focus on playing while he was still able to then that seems like a feasible option. ETA: It's in Thistle interest to have an option that utilises Brian Graham next season, even if that's only to ensure that any compensation for his departure is reasonable. Edited May 31 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 We can go on guessing and even making "facts" up but I would hope the board would not be issuing details of how the interviews went or what was discussed at them or in the follow up. I would also hope that the candidates would accept the decisions and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25205128.mark-wilson-landing-partick-thistle-role-brian-grahams-future/ This interview seems to raise more questions than it answers when it comes to Graham (and why he seemed to drag his heels). Implicitly, he also seems to be alluding to the fact that we are completely and utterly skint. Raises yet more questions about the viability of fan ownership and investment in raising capital to make us competitive. Edited May 31 by Yellow & Redneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 26 minutes ago, Yellow & Redneck said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25205128.mark-wilson-landing-partick-thistle-role-brian-grahams-future/ This interview seems to raise more questions than it answers when it comes to Graham (and why he seemed to drag his heels). Implicitly, he also seems to be alluding to the fact that we are completely and utterly skint. Raises yet more questions about the viability of fan ownership and investment in raising capital to make us competitive. You beat me to the punch in posting the link to what, in my opinion, is a very good interview. With regards to finances we made a big mistake in the season just gone with the "push the boat out" strategy (and it is one of the few things I think TJF have gotten wrong - they should have not supported it). The problem now is that having gone from losing over £300K then getting it down to half that we are back up at £300K again so instead of getting from a £60K loss (half of the previous one) to break even we now have to go from £300K to break even - much harder. I have been told that we have a new commercial manager starting soon so hopefully he will be able to squeeze every pound from existing sources whilst opening up new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 31 minutes ago, Yellow & Redneck said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25205128.mark-wilson-landing-partick-thistle-role-brian-grahams-future/ This interview seems to raise more questions than it answers when it comes to Graham (and why he seemed to drag his heels). Implicitly, he also seems to be alluding to the fact that we are completely and utterly skint. Raises yet more questions about the viability of fan ownership and investment in raising capital to make us competitive. It's not a secret that the budget for 25/26 has been reduced from last season which was an increase on 23/24. Let's hope season ticket sales and commercial deals go well, which could mean more money coming in than we thought. All the best to Mark and the rest of the team at Firhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: It's not a secret that the budget for 25/26 has been reduced from last season which was an increase on 23/24. Let's hope season ticket sales and commercial deals go well, which could mean more money coming in than we thought. All the best to Mark and the rest of the team at Firhill. If today is the last day of the forum I might sneak on at 11.59pm and post a clip of Bob Geldof encouraging people to part with their cash! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25205128.mark-wilson-landing-partick-thistle-role-brian-grahams-future/ This interview seems to raise more questions than it answers when it comes to Graham (and why he seemed to drag his heels). Implicitly, he also seems to be alluding to the fact that we are completely and utterly skint. Raises yet more questions about the viability of fan ownership and investment in raising capital to make us competitive. Actually happy the way it turned out but totally baffled by whats gone on with Graham. Given his comments after the livi game seemed he was taking the job if offered or was he giving himself an out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: I understand what is required. It’s the how that I am not sure was that clear in Mark Wilson’s video. I don’t think Agents are going to want to deal with 2 people at the club. Possibly 3 people since Lee Turnbull is also working for Baraclough. I think though not sure he might be overseeing all the scouting side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarciaBlaine Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25205128.mark-wilson-landing-partick-thistle-role-brian-grahams-future/ This interview seems to raise more questions than it answers when it comes to Graham (and why he seemed to drag his heels). Implicitly, he also seems to be alluding to the fact that we are completely and utterly skint. Raises yet more questions about the viability of fan ownership and investment in raising capital to make us competitive. He specifically says he was interviewed, the implication being at the same time as Graham, so that would mean the shortlist of four that was bandied about wasn't correct. However I suppose it's possible Wilson was interviewed on Wednesday after Graham turned the job down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 It's difficult to pick a way through the rumours and speculation but on first sight the Board, Baraclough and Brian Graham haven't come through the process looking impressive but maybe there's more of a story to be told. This may be one of my last posts on this Forum and am pleased to record that I am more positive about Mark Wilson's appointment than I expected - he talks well and has come over as calm and with a plan...and he's not Imrie! Other than central defence, there is work to be done on the entire team. Turner, Chalmers, McKay & Megwa looked good signings last season but we didn't see them at their best...next season's recruitment will be crucial - I'd prefer young players making up the squad and given a chance rather than English lower league journeymen. After a season of quite the dullest games, I just hope to see a really good and entertaining Thistle side again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, Winter of '63 said: It's difficult to pick a way through the rumours and speculation but on first sight the Board, Baraclough and Brian Graham haven't come through the process looking impressive but maybe there's more of a story to be told. This may be one of my last posts on this Forum and am pleased to record that I am more positive about Mark Wilson's appointment than I expected - he talks well and has come over as calm and with a plan...and he's not Imrie! Other than central defence, there is work to be done on the entire team. Turner, Chalmers, McKay & Megwa looked good signings last season but we didn't see them at their best...next season's recruitment will be crucial - I'd prefer young players making up the squad and given a chance rather than English lower league journeymen. After a season of quite the dullest games, I just hope to see a really good and entertaining Thistle side again. Totally agree that with the positivity towards Wilson. Seems as though the focus is on building the foundations for long term success. Think a bit of patience might be needed next seasons but if there are signs things are progressing in the right direction he has my full support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 I ditto winter of 63 & Jag 36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, Jag36 said: Actually happy the way it turned out but totally baffled by whats gone on with Graham. Given his comments after the livi game seemed he was taking the job if offered or was he giving himself an out.. Brian who? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Just read Wilson's Herald interview. Impressive and certainly conveys he knows what he is about and expresses himself in an articulate, pragmatic and I think honest and sincere manner.. We will though have to be patient as we clearly don't have much if any money to spend. I have thoroughly enjoyed participating to discussion about the Jags and related matters and as a result I feel a real member of the Jags family. I shall miss this. My sincere thanks to admin and partner for running this site and I hope that the health issues will soon be resolved. Cheers to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 What's the role played by Lee Turnbell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, MarciaBlaine said: I suppose it's possible Wilson was interviewed on Wednesday after Graham turned the job down. Ian McCall said this was the case on Radio Scotland this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 If Mark can find a good goalie, good centre mid and striker and our wingers perform to a standard we think / know they can. Then this squad should easily be mid table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: What's the role played by Lee Turnbell? Head of scouting. We have more heads than a hydra... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 minutes ago, jagfox said: Ian McCall said this was the case on Radio Scotland this afternoon. Also said he didn’t think Imrie was offered the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, thornwoodjag said: If Mark can find a good goalie, good centre mid and striker and our wingers perform to a standard we think / know they can. Then this squad should easily be mid table. No full-backs? That's an interesting strategy 🤔😉 Agreed, I think that talks of our demise are greatly exaggerated. We have the core of a good squad already signed up. Shame we have a few mid to long-term injuries meaning an empty shirt in return for a wage out the budget, for a good chunk of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, thornwoodjag said: Also said he didn’t think Imrie was offered the job Aye, I wonder if we will ever get the full story. They should have kept the documentary for the Thistle conclave. More goings on and shenanigans than the recent Papal version haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, Winter of '63 said: next season's recruitment will be crucial - I'd prefer young players making up the squad and given a chance rather than English lower league journeymen. After a season of quite the dullest games, I just hope to see a really good and entertaining Thistle side again. Think we will be forced into regularly playing some of the youngsters if the budget is tight. Hopefully they progress and perhaps provide a foundation for a more successful younger team the following season, as I think 25-26 will be about rebuilding for the future. As a consequence I think next season will likely require some patience. Hopefully Wilson and Barraclough will gradually move us forward and I wish them both well. A minority of folk on here having a dig at Graham. Regardless of his reason(s) for turning down the job (personally I think there’s more to it than he “wanted a final season playing in the premier league”), he has been an outstanding signing for Partick Thistle. Anything else is churlish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, thornwoodjag said: If Mark can find a good goalie, good centre mid and striker and our wingers perform to a standard we think / know they can. Then this squad should easily be mid table. Turner also out for a few months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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