Norgethistle Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 17 hours ago, laukat said: If the choice is McCall who knows the Scottish player pool and leagues or Barraclough who's experience is more towards non-league English football then I would rather have McCall. That being said as the pair of them have virtually no experience as a Sporting Director/Director of Football I would like to think there are better candidates on the shortlist. He won a play off final with Motherwell against Rangers so has some experience in Scotland, also managed Ireland so has other experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby Jag Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Is the Ian Barraclough/Levi Gill chat grounded in any fact or is it another random rumour TL has latched on to and convinced himself is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Derby Jag said: Is the Ian Barraclough/Levi Gill chat grounded in any fact or is it another random rumour TL has latched on to and convinced himself is true. It was not me that started the McCabe rumours. The poster who did has been very quiet since. unlike others I didn’t think McCall would be appointed SD. The only rumour I have mentioned is that Baraclough will be unveiled next week. He and Gill have been friends for a number of years. Obviously no announcement has been made and won’t be till next week. I have no reason to doubt who told me. I have heard from 2 different people that Levi Gill was one of the interview panel despite his claims he has nothing to do with the football side of things. I suppose it’s now a case of waiting and seeing until the SD is unveiled. Baraclough was unveiled as Sporting Director of AFC Fyde in December, we advertised our SD post at beginning of February. While I know it does happen it’s not a particularly great look to your current employer if you apply for another post within 6 weeks of starting. Could risk it being uncomfortable with current employer if he were to not get the advertised Partick Thistle post. Levi Gill claims he is not involved in the football side of things at all but is on the interviewing panel. Now I could’ve plus points and negative points for McCall so I’m not bothered whether he got it or not. But over 100 applications, very experienced candidates like Joe Savage, Barrowman from Raith and we give it to the guy who just started at AFC Fyde and who’s friend is on the interviewing panel who also happens to claim not to be involved in any way in the football side of things. I believe there are people on the current board who would have absolutely slaughtered the previous board or Gerry Britton if this had happened and rightly so. I’m a fully paid up member of TJF and fully behind the idea of fan ownership and a critic of the Low and co board so don’t have an axe to grind in general of the current board but this appointment of Baraclough for me completely stinks and personally I have concerns about Levi Gills role. Edited March 22 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 42 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: It was not me that started the McCabe rumours. The poster who did has been very quiet since. unlike others I didn’t think McCall would be appointed SD. The only rumour I have mentioned is that Baraclough will be unveiled next week. He and Gill have been friends for a number of years. Obviously no announcement has been made and won’t be till next week. I have no reason to doubt who told me. I have heard from 2 different people that Levi Gill was one of the interview panel despite his claims he has nothing to do with the football side of things. I suppose it’s now a case of waiting and seeing until the SD is unveiled. Baraclough was unveiled as Sporting Director of AFC Fyde in December, we advertised our SD post at beginning of February. While I know it does happen it’s not a particularly great look to your current employer if you apply for another post within 6 weeks of starting. Could risk it being uncomfortable with current employer if he were to not get the advertised Partick Thistle post. Levi Gill claims he is not involved in the football side of things at all but is on the interviewing panel. Now I could’ve plus points and negative points for McCall so I’m not bothered whether he got it or not. But over 100 applications, very experienced candidates like Joe Savage, Barrowman from Raith and we give it to the guy who just started at AFC Fyde and who’s friend is on the interviewing panel who also happens to claim not to be involved in any way in the football side of things. I believe there are people on the current board who would have absolutely slaughtered the previous board or Gerry Britton if this had happened and rightly so. I’m a fully paid up member of TJF and fully behind the idea of fan ownership and a critic of the Low and co board so don’t have an axe to grind in general of the current board but this appointment of Baraclough for me completely stinks and personally I have concerns about Levi Gills role. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: It was not me that started the McCabe rumours. The poster who did has been very quiet since. unlike others I didn’t think McCall would be appointed SD. The only rumour I have mentioned is that Baraclough will be unveiled next week. He and Gill have been friends for a number of years. Obviously no announcement has been made and won’t be till next week. I have no reason to doubt who told me. I have heard from 2 different people that Levi Gill was one of the interview panel despite his claims he has nothing to do with the football side of things. I suppose it’s now a case of waiting and seeing until the SD is unveiled. Baraclough was unveiled as Sporting Director of AFC Fyde in December, we advertised our SD post at beginning of February. While I know it does happen it’s not a particularly great look to your current employer if you apply for another post within 6 weeks of starting. Could risk it being uncomfortable with current employer if he were to not get the advertised Partick Thistle post. Levi Gill claims he is not involved in the football side of things at all but is on the interviewing panel. Now I could’ve plus points and negative points for McCall so I’m not bothered whether he got it or not. But over 100 applications, very experienced candidates like Joe Savage, Barrowman from Raith and we give it to the guy who just started at AFC Fyde and who’s friend is on the interviewing panel who also happens to claim not to be involved in any way in the football side of things. I believe there are people on the current board who would have absolutely slaughtered the previous board or Gerry Britton if this had happened and rightly so. I’m a fully paid up member of TJF and fully behind the idea of fan ownership and a critic of the Low and co board so don’t have an axe to grind in general of the current board but this appointment of Baraclough for me completely stinks and personally I have concerns about Levi Gills role. I don't think Baraclough needs to worry about how those in charge at Fylde feel as he left his role there in January. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cpvml0een1no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: I don't think Baraclough needs to worry about how those in charge at Fylde feel as he left his role there in January. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cpvml0een1no Quote Looking forward to continuing my journey Amazing how so few words can turn you (well me anyway) against someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: It was not me that started the McCabe rumours. The poster who did has been very quiet since. unlike others I didn’t think McCall would be appointed SD. The only rumour I have mentioned is that Baraclough will be unveiled next week. He and Gill have been friends for a number of years. Obviously no announcement has been made and won’t be till next week. I have no reason to doubt who told me. I have heard from 2 different people that Levi Gill was one of the interview panel despite his claims he has nothing to do with the football side of things. I suppose it’s now a case of waiting and seeing until the SD is unveiled. Baraclough was unveiled as Sporting Director of AFC Fyde in December, we advertised our SD post at beginning of February. While I know it does happen it’s not a particularly great look to your current employer if you apply for another post within 6 weeks of starting. Could risk it being uncomfortable with current employer if he were to not get the advertised Partick Thistle post. Levi Gill claims he is not involved in the football side of things at all but is on the interviewing panel. Now I could’ve plus points and negative points for McCall so I’m not bothered whether he got it or not. But over 100 applications, very experienced candidates like Joe Savage, Barrowman from Raith and we give it to the guy who just started at AFC Fyde and who’s friend is on the interviewing panel who also happens to claim not to be involved in any way in the football side of things. I believe there are people on the current board who would have absolutely slaughtered the previous board or Gerry Britton if this had happened and rightly so. I’m a fully paid up member of TJF and fully behind the idea of fan ownership and a critic of the Low and co board so don’t have an axe to grind in general of the current board but this appointment of Baraclough for me completely stinks and personally I have concerns about Levi Gills role. I don’t think there needs to be a conspiracy theory if Levi Gill is on the interview panel. He is a senior member of staff and no doubt has experience in interviewing. However, I am not sure that he should have a deciding vote, if any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 Its clear that a lot of posters on the thread have never been on recruitment panels where you take different people from areas of an organisation to balance out experience, objectivity and decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: I don't think Baraclough needs to worry about how those in charge at Fylde feel as he left his role there in January. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cpvml0een1no That being the case then i would be concerned that we are looking to appoint someone who lasted in their previous role a total of one month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, Third Lanark said: That being the case then i would be concerned that we are looking to appoint someone who lasted in their previous role a total of one month As you or anyone else on here (including me) have no idea why he left after a month it’s a bit wide of the mark to criticize. It could have been family issues, job promised wasn’t job he got, or various other matters. As football is quite a small market I’d be surprised if most folk applying didn’t know someone at the club, but are you speculating they are mates? As Levi came from Barrow (job wise and location wise) Barraclough has never managed or played there where are you basing this on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 6 hours ago, Lenziejag said: I don’t think there needs to be a conspiracy theory if Levi Gill is on the interview panel. He is a senior member of staff and no doubt has experience in interviewing. However, I am not sure that he should have a deciding vote, if any. I disagree Richard I think there is a conflict of interest- but that’s just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 16 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: As you or anyone else on here (including me) have no idea why he left after a month it’s a bit wide of the mark to criticize. It could have been family issues, job promised wasn’t job he got, or various other matters. As football is quite a small market I’d be surprised if most folk applying didn’t know someone at the club, but are you speculating they are mates? As Levi came from Barrow (job wise and location wise) Barraclough has never managed or played there where are you basing this on I’m basing it on what I have been told that they are mates. What’s being from Barrow to do with anything? Just because someone is from one area doesn’t mean everyone they know is from that area. You can be friends with people from elsewhere. Look at you for instance your from Glasgow but have mates all over the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 I wish I had a mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 26 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I’m basing it on what I have been told that they are mates. What’s being from Barrow to do with anything? Just because someone is from one area doesn’t mean everyone they know is from that area. You can be friends with people from elsewhere. Look at you for instance your from Glasgow but have mates all over the world So your post / accusation here and Facebook is based solely on second hand gossip that you don’t know is true or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 37 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I’m basing it on what I have been told that they are mates. What’s being from Barrow to do with anything? Just because someone is from one area doesn’t mean everyone they know is from that area. You can be friends with people from elsewhere. Look at you for instance your from Glasgow but have mates all over the world Hope you’re not making this up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Hope you’re not making this up ? I’m not making it up - just going by what different people have told me about Levi Gill being friends and that Gill sat on interviews. I have put my own reasons why I don’t think Baraclough should not be the main choice for the role. One thing for sure it will be an interesting week. Maybe the board might not go with Levi’s mate in the end but he is certainly among final choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jlsarmy Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I’m not making it up - just going by what different people have told me about Levi Gill being friends and that Gill sat on interviews. I have put my own reasons why I don’t think Baraclough should not be the main choice for the role. One thing for sure it will be an interesting week. Maybe the board might not go with Levi’s mate in the end but he is certainly among final choices Got absolutely no faith in our Board of Directors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Whether he is mates with someone of influence or not, and without knowing who the other 4 on the shortlist are, what have people got against Baraclough ? A former international manager with experience is the Scottish Premier League and contacts North and South of the border. On paper he looks to have a decent CV for the job and would certainly bring in fresh ideas from outside the club. As I said,I don’t know who else was in the last 5, just interested to know what Baraclough has done wrong ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Got absolutely no faith in our Board of Directors. I don’t doubt the chairman and board do their best for the club in what is a hard role and do for the most part genuinely love the club even if I find that decisions are questionable sometimes. However Levi Gill is not a Partick Thistle supporter and never has been which is of course pretty open and don’t know what his agenda and motives are. (I certainly disagreed with his politics certainly but he’s entitled to his view point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Whether he is mates with someone of influence or not, and without knowing who the other 4 on the shortlist are, what have people got against Baraclough ? A former international manager with experience is the Scottish Premier League and contacts North and South of the border. On paper he looks to have a decent CV for the job and would certainly bring in fresh ideas from outside the club. As I said,I don’t know who else was in the last 5, just interested to know what Baraclough has done wrong ? I have nothing against Baraclough- I have my reservations regarding how quickly he left AFC Flyde, his lack of involvement in Scottish football bar 9 months and not convinced he’s the best possible candidate (neither is Ian McCall either). I don’t see this being an issue for someone like Joe Savage etc. He also seems to flit about from club to club without lasting long. My concern is that out of over 100 applicants it has come down to the favourite being a friend of the General Manager. Of course it’s not illegal but in my opinion it’s wrong and as I say if this has been Gerry Britton doing something similar he would have been rightly slaughtered for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Unnamed sources should be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby Jag Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 14 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I have nothing against Baraclough- I have my reservations regarding how quickly he left AFC Flyde, his lack of involvement in Scottish football bar 9 months and not convinced he’s the best possible candidate (neither is Ian McCall either). I don’t see this being an issue for someone like Joe Savage etc. He also seems to flit about from club to club without lasting long. My concern is that out of over 100 applicants it has come down to the favourite being a friend of the General Manager. Of course it’s not illegal but in my opinion it’s wrong and as I say if this has been Gerry Britton doing something similar he would have been rightly slaughtered for it. You don't know any other candidates You don't know he is "mates" with Levi Gill You don't know he's even a candidate You don't know Joe Savage is a candidate You didn't know until very recently he left Flyde You've made a bizarre accusations about Levi Gill's politics and questioned his motivation. I have no idea why you are talking about Rhys McCave Maybe take a lie down and see what the decision actually is and judge based on what is said by those involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: So your post / accusation here and Facebook is based solely on second hand gossip that you don’t know is true or not I have no reason to doubt the people that told me. You yourself regularly posted and made accusations about the previous board, people involved in the PTFC Trust etc etc on here and Facebook on a weekly level at one stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Derby Jag said: You don't know any other candidates You don't know he is "mates" with Levi Gill You don't know he's even a candidate You don't know Joe Savage is a candidate You didn't know until very recently he left Flyde You've made a bizarre accusations about Levi Gill's politics and questioned his motivation. I have no idea why you are talking about Rhys McCave Maybe take a lie down and see what the decision actually is and judge based on what is said by those involved. I never said anything about Rhys McCabe or Rhys mccave (whoever that is). That’s twice you have mentioned that- it was another posted who said McCabe was being unveiled as manager not me. Thanks as I said I have no reason to disbelieve any of the sources I have heard about Levi Gill. You obviously have a completely different opinion which you are entitled. Absolutely let’s see what the decision is - it will be an interesting week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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