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57 minutes ago, erty13 said:

Who at the club is negotiating all these deals that are coming to an end. I think the pie sports deal is also ending.

It looks like we are lacking in expertise in this area.

not sure who is dealing with these but hopefully not snapping at first offers because if we win promotion it would be a safe assumption more lucrative deals could be struck.

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Whilst we are all happy with what is happening on the pitch it is disappointing that things off the pitch seem to be going in the other direction. Must confess that I am disappointed that TJF have not provided an update to at least show they have been chasing the club for this information for the benefit of their members.

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1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said:

Whilst we are all happy with what is happening on the pitch it is disappointing that things off the pitch seem to be going in the other direction. Must confess that I am disappointed that TJF have not provided an update to at least show they have been chasing the club for this information for the benefit of their members.

Completely agree. The fantastic on-field work has been a (useful) distraction for the board (not many people asking questions). The follow-up from TJF and the board to that farcical AGM has been nothing short of embarrassing. 

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1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said:

Whilst we are all happy with what is happening on the pitch it is disappointing that things off the pitch seem to be going in the other direction. Must confess that I am disappointed that TJF have not provided an update to at least show they have been chasing the club for this information for the benefit of their members.

Yeah been really disappointed with TJF on this regard, on the face of it done absolutely nothing.

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20 hours ago, erty13 said:

Who at the club is negotiating all these deals that are coming to an end. I think the pie sports deal is also ending.

It looks like we are lacking in expertise in this area.

Until I received my programme from the Ross County game I would have said our commercial executive, Megan Paterson but she is leaving after a few months in post. How many people in senior posts have we had leave in recent years after one season or less? It seems like a lot and surely can't help with longterm planning.

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1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said:

Until I received my programme from the Ross County game I would have said our commercial executive, Megan Paterson but she is leaving after a few months in post. How many people in senior posts have we had leave in recent years after one season or less? It seems like a lot and surely can't help with longterm planning.

I didnt Megan was leaving, the fact so many people are leaving after a short time in post is not a good look for the club at all

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The silence from TJF on the AGM is deafening! No comms whatsoever. Between that and the revolving door of office staff arriving and then quickly disappearing is also a concern. What the heck is going on? Now questioning whether my TJF subscription is worth it. The level of comms is now on a par with the JLow board….. 

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There’s no way this topic isn’t coming up in TJF board meetings.

Purely speculative on my part, but I’d imagine issues include:

- Relatively short tenures of some board members, making them not best positioned to respond to questions that precede their tenure

- Donald McClymont may be most qualified to respond to these questions, but he’s busy running a publicly traded company

- Lack of consequences.  What’s the “punishment” for failing to respond?  Losing your place on the board?  Not if we don’t have replacements lined up.  I think we’ve had a difficult time both finding AND keeping club board members.

In sum, I highly doubt this isn’t hyper present in the TJF board’s mind.  But….what can they realistically do about it?

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11 hours ago, ChiThistle said:

There’s no way this topic isn’t coming up in TJF board meetings.

Purely speculative on my part, but I’d imagine issues include:

- Relatively short tenures of some board members, making them not best positioned to respond to questions that precede their tenure

- Donald McClymont may be most qualified to respond to these questions, but he’s busy running a publicly traded company

- Lack of consequences.  What’s the “punishment” for failing to respond?  Losing your place on the board?  Not if we don’t have replacements lined up.  I think we’ve had a difficult time both finding AND keeping club board members.

In sum, I highly doubt this isn’t hyper present in the TJF board’s mind.  But….what can they realistically do about it?

I have thought for a while that there should be a financial stake of some kind to be a director. 

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1 hour ago, Lenziejag said:

I have thought for a while that there should be a financial stake of some kind to be a director. 

 

39 minutes ago, Very Bitter Jag said:

The bottom line is we were 'sold' fan ownership by TJF on the basis we had many capable supporters with the knowledge and experience to make it work. TJF had better start showing this or it will implode sooner rather than later IMHO. 

Putting cash into a football club doesn't always guarantee that the person has the ability to run a football club. 

It has only been a couple of years since TJF was set up. With the board being so new there has been no time to plan and ensure succession. This has probably meant that the TJF board is made up with people who are capable but inexperienced. It is something which can happen too easily where you have a new voluntary board set up or a complete change in membership.

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58 minutes ago, scotty said:

 

Putting cash into a football club doesn't always guarantee that the person has the ability to run a football club. 

It has only been a couple of years since TJF was set up. With the board being so new there has been no time to plan and ensure succession. This has probably meant that the TJF board is made up with people who are capable but inexperienced. It is something which can happen too easily where you have a new voluntary board set up or a complete change in membership.

I have about as little faith in TJF now than I do with the actual club board. Even an update on why they have failed to get any answers would be an improvement on absolute silence.

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1 hour ago, scotty said:

 

Putting cash into a football club doesn't always guarantee that the person has the ability to run a football club. 

It has only been a couple of years since TJF was set up. With the board being so new there has been no time to plan and ensure succession. This has probably meant that the TJF board is made up with people who are capable but inexperienced. It is something which can happen too easily where you have a new voluntary board set up or a complete change in membership.

What I mean is that it needs to be more than an extension of voluntary work for PTFC - not something that can be laid aside if it is interfering with other bits of life.

 

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3 hours ago, scotty said:

 

Putting cash into a football club doesn't always guarantee that the person has the ability to run a football club. 

It has only been a couple of years since TJF was set up. With the board being so new there has been no time to plan and ensure succession. This has probably meant that the TJF board is made up with people who are capable but inexperienced. It is something which can happen too easily where you have a new voluntary board set up or a complete change in membership.

It wouldnt take that long though to send an email providing an update though on when details will be provided on the last AGM, that could probably be done quickly

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Hello folks

I share your frustration on the point to do with post-AGM comms. We sent the questions to the Club Board on 13th February (day after the AGM).

As best I understand it, most of the responses were prepared in fairly short order after that, but there were a couple that couldn’t be answered properly without up-to-date information. It was felt better to provide answers as a package rather than in dribs and drabs. We have reminded the Club Board several times that there was a shared commitment to get these responses out and have been chasing on an almost weekly basis.

The recent changes at Club Board level have put more pressure on the remaining board members in terms of capacity, and they’ve also required the process for management accounts to be changed and for the Club to implement some systems changes to make sure they are kept current going forwards.

The Club has received active assistance on management accounting and a number of other projects from the recently restructured Finance Working Group (and Sandy Fyfe in particular) and this means reporting is now back up to date.

We most recently reminded the Club Board of the need to get the post-AGM communication out on Monday evening (when we met with them to discuss this and several other matters) and have been given an assurance that the Q&A will be ready by Friday.

The broader piece on active engagement is one we have been constantly impressing upon the Club Board, though they have faced some challenges in recent weeks operating as a smaller team. Once board numbers are restored (something that is being actively worked on at the moment) the Club Board knows the expectations of engagement on them and their expanded team. And we’ll expect that to be delivered and they know they will be accountable to us on that.

Thank you for bearing with us on this. It’s not as slick as it should be.

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