Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: "David Beattie was one of our most successful Chairman & deserves respect " Agree with this and also we need business people who know how to run organisations and be tough with financial decisions. Can we have an amnesty to any wronged parties and invite people to help like Beattie, McCrae, Creevey etc? (Maybe not J Low...) That's been attempted and rejected out of hand by TJF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: ) a bid came from out of the blue - the potential Buyer gave a presentation to the then major Shareholders ( I was not involved ) they presented a Plan - Investment etc - and as the Club was going nowhere the Shareholders ( vast majority of whom were no longer connected to the Club ) wanted to sell That’s an interesting gloss over which contains at least one fact ….there was a left field bid to buy the club but it was never fully explained why they wanted to buy the club and what their plans were. The fact that they never engaged with the fan base in any shape or form was telling as was the fact they sold Barnsley later having improved it not one iota. We dodged a real bullet there. there are lots of things that need improving at the club and revenue generation is certainly one of them but I’m unclear apart from having the longest threads in any football forum what it is your actually trying to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: That's been attempted and rejected out of hand by TJF False. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, javeajag said: That’s an interesting gloss over which contains at least one fact ….there was a left field bid to buy the club but it was never fully explained why they wanted to buy the club and what their plans were. The fact that they never engaged with the fan base in any shape or form was telling as was the fact they sold Barnsley later having improved it not one iota. We dodged a real bullet there. there are lots of things that need improving at the club and revenue generation is certainly one of them but I’m unclear apart from having the longest threads in any football forum what it is your actually trying to achieve. They did a presentation to the Shareholders - pretty much straight away after the removal of the Jlo Board a PR Campaign against the Sale was launched - so they never really got a chance to explain there Plans - that's not a "Gloss Over" just what happened The Jlo MK1 Board was going in a downward direction - the Jlo MK2 Board continued this - it was Frying Pan into the Fire Stuff - there were no real good options on the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Woodstock Jag said: False. Really - its false ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Just now, Jordanhill Jag said: Really - its false ? Yes. Your statement is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: They did a presentation to the Shareholders - pretty much straight away after the removal of the Jlo Board a PR Campaign against the Sale was launched - so they never really got a chance to explain there Plans - that's not a "Gloss Over" just what happened The Jlo MK1 Board was going in a downward direction - the Jlo MK2 Board continued this - it was Frying Pan into the Fire Stuff - there were no real good options on the table That’s an interpretation but not my recollection…. so what are you trying to achieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 Just now, javeajag said: That’s an interpretation but not my recollection…. so what are you trying to achieve Nothing on what happened ref the original takeover offer - I was asked a question and I answered it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Yes. Your statement is false. How is it False ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Nothing on what happened ref the original takeover offer - I was asked a question and I answered it Ok here is the third time of asking my question …..what are you hoping to achieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 7 minutes ago, javeajag said: Ok here is the third time of asking my question …..what are you hoping to achieve Achieve by what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Just now, Jordanhill Jag said: Achieve by what ? By starting and posting continuously on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, javeajag said: By starting and posting continuously on this thread I started and posted continuously that our Finances were in a mess despite getting abuse for it So Im continuing with that - we rely on Cup Runs and Handouts - nothing has changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: How is it False ? Absolutely nothing has been “rejected out of hand by TJF”. Edited August 4 by Woodstock Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Absolutely nothing has been “rejected out of hand by TJF”. Thats an opinion - and not necessarily one that a neutral observer would share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Thats an opinion - and not necessarily one that a neutral observer would share. Definition of “rejected out of hand” according to the Collins English Dictionary: ”to reject an idea or suggestion without hesitating and without discussing it first” I am confident that TJF has rejected precisely nothing “out of hand” in my time on its board other than perhaps the suggestion we should commission a Gary Caldwell Pin. Edited August 4 by Woodstock Jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 6 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Definition of “rejected out of hand” according to the Collins English Dictionary: ”to reject an idea or suggestion without hesitating and without discussing it first” I am confident that TJF has rejected precisely nothing “out of hand” in my time on its board other than perhaps the suggestion we should commission a Gary Caldwell Pin. That assumes there was a discussion and not a conversation with a pre ordained outcome As Ive said - a neutral observer may not agree with your interpretation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 9 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: I started and posted continuously that our Finances were in a mess despite getting abuse for it So Im continuing with that - we rely on Cup Runs and Handouts - nothing has changed That’s not my point…..what are you trying to achieve, what’s your objective ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 9 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: That assumes there was a discussion and not a conversation with a pre ordained outcome As Ive said - a neutral observer may not agree with your interpretation And if you came across as a neutral observer your interpretation may be given some credence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, javeajag said: That’s not my point…..what are you trying to achieve, what’s your objective ? Its a Forum your allowed to discuss the Club why has there got to be an objective ? pointing out that our Finances were a mess resulting in record losses - despite what was being stated by the Board & TJF allows Fans to get a full picture When you slated TJF for allowing it to happen - what was your objective ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 28 minutes ago, scotty said: And if you came across as a neutral observer your interpretation may be given some credence. Of course TJF are completely neutral - I forgot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 (edited) 10 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: I am confident that TJF has rejected precisely nothing “out of hand” in my time on its board other than perhaps the suggestion we should commission a Gary Caldwell Pin. *shudders* Edited August 5 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Just asking but would TJF commissioning a Jordanhill Jag pin be out of the question? I'd certainly buy one. On one condition. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Just asking but would TJF commissioning a Jordanhill Jag pin be out of the question? I'd certainly buy one. On one condition. The answer is No -to your condition 😀 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Its a Forum your allowed to discuss the Club why has there got to be an objective ? pointing out that our Finances were a mess resulting in record losses - despite what was being stated by the Board & TJF allows Fans to get a full picture When you slated TJF for allowing it to happen - what was your objective ? But you are repeating the same points endlessly which you have done on multiple occasions previously, there isn’t a lot new in what you are saying. you have by now pointed out what you wanted to and any fans interested have your full picture. I haven’t gone over my views on not spending money we don’t have as that was in the past but I will in the future if warranted. If you were making points related to this years accounts I could understand it, but your not. It would be much simpler to either engage with TJF or Graeme directly as to be honest less and less people are listening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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