Vom Itorium Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Not a lot!! Keep the 12 teams but possibly have a play-off Now that was worth all the hoo-ha wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Adding play offs is all that is needed if you ask me. The same people will mump and moan when teams have nothing to play for come christmas if we had bigger leagues. It dilutes the quality too when you make the field bigger. Sure playing each team four sometimes is not fun, but thats Scotland, we're a small country and its one of the cons that comes with it that we just have to deal with. What else would I do? Shut the league down the whole of January and play until the end of May. Means no complete change to summer football, but also take advantage of the better weather and the fact people are skint after Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Adding play offs is all that is needed if you ask me. The same people will mump and moan when teams have nothing to play for come christmas if we had bigger leagues. It dilutes the quality too when you make the field bigger. Sure playing each team four sometimes is not fun, but thats Scotland, we're a small country and its one of the cons that comes with it that we just have to deal with. What else would I do? Shut the league down the whole of January and play until the end of May. Means no complete change to summer football, but also take advantage of the better weather and the fact people are skint after Christmas. I'm serious about the idea of matches only every fortnight, meaning that teams only play each other twice a season. It would also allow players to recover from injury, and teams could play in the European matches or friendlies all they wanted. How to deal with the 50% reduction in income? Easy, double the price of admission. It works out the same, and each game would be more meaningful, more of an event, as they were all less frequent. Edited July 17, 2011 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hebridean jag Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm serious about the idea of matches only every fortnight, meaning that teams only play each other twice a season. It would also allow players to recover from injury, and teams could play in the European matches or friendlies all they wanted. How to deal with the 50% reduction in income? Easy, double the price of admission. It works out the same, and each game would be more meaningful, more of an event, as they were all less frequent. BBC radio seemed quite confident that they`d introduce a play off as part of the package and it would in all probability start at the end of the coming season. This let`s them seem radical and throws the SFL a bone. Good result for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 If the playoffs are 11th SPL and 2nd 3rd 4th Div One then that gets my vote (as long as we finish 4th since thats our lucky spot ) 2 legs for 11th/4th and 2nd/3rd then playoff final at Hampden or a decetn sized neutral venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jag Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm serious about the idea of matches only every fortnight, meaning that teams only play each other twice a season. It would also allow players to recover from injury, and teams could play in the European matches or friendlies all they wanted. How to deal with the 50% reduction in income? Easy, double the price of admission. It works out the same, and each game would be more meaningful, more of an event, as they were all less frequent. That would have a hefty impact on patg, fairweather fans as well as neutrals. The temptation to say f**k it, can't be @rsed etc. because it's raining or whatever becomes much higher when the sum of money gets close to 40 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryHell Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) What else would I do? Shut the league down the whole of January and play until the end of May. Means no complete change to summer football, but also take advantage of the better weather and the fact people are skint after Christmas. I was walking around in the pishing rain in May and June laughing at the idea that we could make any change to the regular season that would mean we could guarantee less call offs/disruption etc. If we played in May/June this year, there would have been as many call offs for waterlogged pitches as there were for frozen ones in December/January. A professional game would never have gone ahead in the conditions we all played the Firhill Cup for instance. Then when do the outstanding fixtures get played - June/July when people are on holiday? IMO the only way we could minimise disruption is for the clubs to be given money from a central pot, in order that they spend it on pitch covers/protection etc, to at least try and minimise the impact of the weather. We can't guarantee what the weather is going to be like at any time of year so theres no real point in taking a punt on it being any less severe. Edited July 17, 2011 by MerryHell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Adding play offs is all that is needed if you ask me. The same people will mump and moan when teams have nothing to play for come christmas if we had bigger leagues. It dilutes the quality too when you make the field bigger. Sure playing each team four sometimes is not fun, but thats Scotland, we're a small country and its one of the cons that comes with it that we just have to deal with. What else would I do? Shut the league down the whole of January and play until the end of May. Means no complete change to summer football, but also take advantage of the better weather and the fact people are skint after Christmas. I'd go along with that particularly extending into May. Personally I'd rather see some Saturday fixtures in January remain (maybe two and the Cup game) but any canceled/postponed league games rescheduled for later in the season. In other words put an end to midweek league games being played December/January/February. I feel more folk would buy season tickets if they knew beforehand they'd not be subjected to turning up at Firhill on some miserable freezing Tuesday night. Also as MWM points out folk are skint after Xmas. btw I've always thought that the introduction of play offs involving 2nd, 3rd & 4th would open the way for league extension. I don't subscribe to the meaningless games theory as in a league of 16 clubs there would be fewer league games than at present and thus unlikely to be any increase in nothing to play for mid table games. Edited July 17, 2011 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I don't subscribe to the meaningless games theory as in a league of 16 clubs there would be fewer league games than at present and thus unlikely to be any increase in nothing to play for mid table games. Neither do I. The league would be tighter as a result, top teams wouldn't win any more points than currently and bottom teams wouldn't win less, with more teams packed in between there would surely be more competition at the tail end of the season, except for maybe a few clubs in the middle, but that is no different to what we have now. On top of that, Teams like Hearts and Dundee Utd would lose extra games against Rangers and Celtic and gain games against us, Hamilton, Dundee etc, and would therefore be more likely to challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Only in Scotland would you have all this fuss over what is essentially a return to the pre-SPL set up, with one or two minor tweaks. As for play offs I do agree that they generate excitement, but equally they negate the whole concept of league football. So I'm against them in principle but I'm enough of a realist to accept them in practise. As for numbers its surely got to be a 14/16 team top flight, I can see no reasonable argument against this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm serious about the idea of matches only every fortnight, meaning that teams only play each other twice a season. It would also allow players to recover from injury, and teams could play in the European matches or friendlies all they wanted. How to deal with the 50% reduction in income? Easy, double the price of admission. It works out the same, and each game would be more meaningful, more of an event, as they were all less frequent. I hope you're joking. A play-off between the SPL and the First Division is what I wanted. I hope this goes ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsfan58 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm serious about the idea of matches only every fortnight, meaning that teams only play each other twice a season. It would also allow players to recover from injury, and teams could play in the European matches or friendlies all they wanted. How to deal with the 50% reduction in income? Easy, double the price of admission. It works out the same, and each game would be more meaningful, more of an event, as they were all less frequent. Well that is a different one, but only two game a month, no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'll settle for a playoff but Tory Boy lookalike DOncaster wil probably scrap even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted July 17, 2011 Members Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I was walking around in the pishing rain in May and June laughing at the idea that we could make any change to the regular season that would mean we could guarantee less call offs/disruption etc. If we played in May/June this year, there would have been as many call offs for waterlogged pitches as there were for frozen ones in December/January. Indeed, the Hibs game was called off on Saturday due to their ground flooding before their friendly with Barnsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson Towers Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Man, that Doncaster dude looks like a spotty wee phud. 3 words - bullied at school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwejag Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Is his haircut meant as a joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.D Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Man, that Doncaster dude looks like a spotty wee phud. 3 words - bullied at school And how much money is he takingfrom the game to come up with these pearls of wisdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vom Itorium Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 And yet again they fail to come up with anything... SPL AGM produces nada.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 No to doubling admission price and halfing number of games. Thats classic siguesiguespunknik material. Only in Scotland would you have all this fuss over what is essentially a return to the pre-SPL set up, with one or two minor tweaks. As for play offs I do agree that they generate excitement, but equally they negate the whole concept of league football. So I'm against them in principle but I'm enough of a realist to accept them in practise. As for numbers its surely got to be a 14/16 team top flight, I can see no reasonable argument against this. 14 would be a slight improvement, but 16 or 18 team league is way forward. Automatic 2 up, 2 down, with playoff spot for 3rd bottom and 3rd top. Regional mini-leagues of 4 or 5, for opening round of League Cup, home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) No to doubling admission price and halfing number of games. Thats classic siguesiguespunknik material. 14 would be a slight improvement, but 16 or 18 team league is way forward. Automatic 2 up, 2 down, with playoff spot for 3rd bottom and 3rd top. Regional mini-leagues of 4 or 5, for opening round of League Cup, home and away. singing from the same hymn sheet. Currently we are assured of 18 home games and a 50/50 split of one league cup game. A league of 16 clubs results in 15 home league matches and a mini league of of 5 clubs in the League Cup a further assured 4 home games. Furthermore that sort of template would guarantee we play at least 18 different clubs within the league and league cup as opposed to only 10 different clubs today. Edited July 18, 2011 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 singing from the same hymn sheet. Currently we are assured of 18 home games and a 50/50 split of one league cup game. A league of 16 clubs results in 15 home league matches and a mini league of of 5 clubs in the League Cup a further assured 4 home games. Furthermore that sort of template would guarantee we play at least 18 different clubs within the league and league cup as opposed to only 10 different clubs today. You don't play against yourself Otherwise, in complete agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Around the same time next year the new ideas for league reconstruction will be announced. A ten team SPL with more compensation for teams being relegated. As this will be the only way for Scottish football to survive so all SPL clubs will have to vote for it. Deja Vue anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 You don't play against yourself Otherwise, in complete agreement Read again, twinny. Nine league opponents plus 1 league cup opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Read again, twinny. Nine league opponents plus 1 league cup opponent. Oh aye, I forgot the league cup is seeded in the first round, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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