twinny Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 At least they don't play celebration music when we score a goal. I remember Clyde doing that at Broadwood, it is absolutely cringe-worthy. Eh... we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Did anyone else notice the crowd noise (presumably from the North Stand) that was being played into the JH stand today over the tannoy? What on earth was that all about? It sounded awful and was really annoying. Great game today, and a really good atmosphere, but I have absolutely no idea who thought the above was a good idea. Seems as if some people disagree with you "1971" There's nothing wrong with trying these things out, surely? Under the previous BOD, the atmosphere within the ground was never considered, unless someone can tell me otherwise. The fact that onethistle have tried to address this head on, surely can only be a good thing. If we were too scared to try anything new we would still be watching games in morgue-like atmospheres. I do find it strange, 1971, that you are the only person within the jags support who was angry enough to start a whole new thread about something which, to me, seems extremely minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OorWull Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Seems as if some people disagree with you "1971" There's nothing wrong with trying these things out, surely? Under the previous BOD, the atmosphere within the ground was never considered, unless someone can tell me otherwise. The fact that onethistle have tried to address this head on, surely can only be a good thing. If we were too scared to try anything new we would still be watching games in morgue-like atmospheres. I do find it strange, 1971, that you are the only person within the jags support who was angry enough to start a whole new thread about something which, to me, seems extremely minor. There is nothing wrong in trying out new things, which are attempting to create a better atmosphere at matches, some will work others wont, having the singing from the North Stand piped into the JHS, for me was not a good idea and the quality sounded poor and it didn't help the atmosphere. The singing from the North Stand was good enough to stand on it's own merits, we could hear it well enough without any additional tinny version in the background. I am neither "moaning" or "angry" about this piped singing, merely expressing my considered opinion as a fan, surely this is what OneThistle are after, feedback from all Thistle supporters? As I have said before some ideas will work others wont, for me and many sitting around me this piped singing is a non-starter, I prefer the original un-piped version straight from the North Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) There is nothing wrong in trying out new things, which are attempting to create a better atmosphere at matches, some will work others wont, having the singing from the North Stand piped into the JHS, for me was not a good idea and the quality sounded poor and it didn't help the atmosphere. The singing from the North Stand was good enough to stand on it's own merits, we could hear it well enough without any additional tinny version in the background. I am neither "moaning" or "angry" about this piped singing, merely expressing my considered opinion as a fan, surely this is what OneThistle are after, feedback from all Thistle supporters? As I have said before some ideas will work others wont, for me and many sitting around me this piped singing is a non-starter, I prefer the original un-piped version straight from the North Stand. Wull I totally agree with you, and the feedback has already been acknowledged and will be acted upon. The fact that the fans are now being listened to, instead of ignored and considered as a mere necessary inconvenience, is in itself a real achievement when you consider where we have come from under the previous BOD. For me, onethistle is about listening to what the fans want and doing our upmost to deliver that. It just seemed to me a bit odd that the opening poster felt it necessary to start a whole new thread on this issue when there are at least 2 threads discussing the match day experience already. Edited August 12, 2012 by ian_mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Seems as if some people disagree with you "1971" There's nothing wrong with trying these things out, surely? Under the previous BOD, the atmosphere within the ground was never considered, unless someone can tell me otherwise. The fact that onethistle have tried to address this head on, surely can only be a good thing. If we were too scared to try anything new we would still be watching games in morgue-like atmospheres. I do find it strange, 1971, that you are the only person within the jags support who was angry enough to start a whole new thread about something which, to me, seems extremely minor. Calm down! The only reason I started a thread about it was because I didn't want to be negative in any thread about the match, which was brilliant. I'm most definitely not "angry". I'm happy for this thread to be merged into the existing matchday threads, there wasn't any particular reason for starting a new thread. I think it's great that we are trying new things, and I think the move to the North Stand worked really well. I previously said that the atmosphere was superb, and the fact that the fans were in the North Stand definitely helped that. All I'm saying is that the piped noise in the JH was quite annoying as it sounded very tinny, had a slight time delay and in general sounded unnatural. Edited August 12, 2012 by 1971 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Eh... we did. Lord, did we? I must have scrubbed it from my memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewanstu Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well, it doesnt really matter, because it isnt something that can be controlled. As Ive tried to explain above the noise coming through the speakers is the side effect of 200 odd fans singing their hearts out. It may sound bizarre but Speakers can act just like Microphones. If you were to shout into a pair of headphones and stuck a mic to your ear, you will be able to hear yourself. The only way to stop this will be to turn the speakers off in the North Stand. Its actually a bit of an achievement in a way, that fans in 'the new shed' were loud enough to be able to send a signal through the PA system. ...any of that make sense? Am probably not explaining it very well sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 In the last 10 mins of the game the whole of the JHS Stand joined the North Stand in singing Red & Yellow Army... Because we won convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Got a text from a friend during the game who lives down on Hamilton Drive saying he could hear Firhill in his garden and could we keep the noise down a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Have to say, all of this is news to me, and I was sitting in the middle of the JHS! Perhaps the speakers just need tweaking in some sections. Thought the atmosphere was excellent though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partick monkey Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well, it doesnt really matter, because it isnt something that can be controlled. As Ive tried to explain above the noise coming through the speakers is the side effect of 200 odd fans singing their hearts out. It may sound bizarre but Speakers can act just like Microphones. If you were to shout into a pair of headphones and stuck a mic to your ear, you will be able to hear yourself. The only way to stop this will be to turn the speakers off in the North Stand. Its actually a bit of an achievement in a way, that fans in 'the new shed' were loud enough to be able to send a signal through the PA system. ...any of that make sense? Am probably not explaining it very well sorry. This is not true. The PA speakers will be wired to the PA output and therefor cannot act as a microphone. So the idea of the singing section being so loud that it comes out the speakers in the JHS is an impossibility. It is more likely because Lance came up The North Stand and put a microphone up there. I was enjoying myself in The North Stand yesterday and Lance switched off the speakers there after the start of the game. No bad thing TBH because the volume of tinny, distorted noise coming out those pishy speakers was making my ears bleed. However, he forgot to switch them back on again at half-time. Couldn't hear the HT draw... Still, I'd rather that than the migraine induced noise torture we were subjected to pre-match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewanstu Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) This is not true. The PA speakers will be wired to the PA output and therefor cannot act as a microphone. So the idea of the singing section being so loud that it comes out the speakers in the JHS is an impossibility. It is more likely because Lance came up The North Stand and put a microphone up there. I was enjoying myself in The North Stand yesterday and Lance switched off the speakers there after the start of the game. No bad thing TBH because the volume of tinny, distorted noise coming out those pishy speakers was making my ears bleed. However, he forgot to switch them back on again at half-time. Couldn't hear the HT draw... Still, I'd rather that than the migraine induced noise torture we were subjected to pre-match. Well, I was pretty sure thats what was happening, I couldnt really imagine the idea of a mic being placed in the North Stand. Though the speakers were turned back on early on in the second half. Edited to add; But I bow down to your greater knowledge, I was just trying to figure out any explanation for the weird noise...as I said, couldnt really imagine a mic actually being put in the stand Edited August 12, 2012 by ewanstu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's a tough one to call. A couple of folk said they didn't like it. Some folk said they didn't hear it. One thing I do know is, it really wound up the Falkirk support. So for me it worked, even if that wasn't it's purpose. Would it work with a smaller crowd, probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 I thought it was quite cringey honestly, there was no need for it. The likes of Clyde and Livingston used to do it and they were pointed and laughed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's a tough one to call. A couple of folk said they didn't like it. Some folk said they didn't hear it. One thing I do know is, it really wound up the Falkirk support. So for me it worked, even if that wasn't it's purpose. Would it work with a smaller crowd, probably not. It wound me up too! It's not a massive issue, but it was just quite annoying and wasn't really required. Arguably worth trying but I would hope it isn't repeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggyman Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 If it means we keep on winning ----- keep calm and carry on lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Main Stand Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 This is not true. The PA speakers will be wired to the PA output and therefor cannot act as a microphone. So the idea of the singing section being so loud that it comes out the speakers in the JHS is an impossibility. It is more likely because Lance came up The North Stand and put a microphone up there. I was enjoying myself in The North Stand yesterday and Lance switched off the speakers there after the start of the game. No bad thing TBH because the volume of tinny, distorted noise coming out those pishy speakers was making my ears bleed. However, he forgot to switch them back on again at half-time. Couldn't hear the HT draw... Still, I'd rather that than the migraine induced noise torture we were subjected to pre-match. Maybe the gain on the mic needs to be turned down a wee bit. Will help prevent the feedback and be less tinny. Mind you, the PA system they have there isn't the best to be honest but could be ajusted to sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neiljag Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I appreciate the effort being put in to improve the atmosphere and the move to the North stand is a big positive but this is another no vote regarding relaying the chanting etc. The sound travels perfectly fine from the North stand without it being rebroadcast from a shrill speaker right in front of your seat in the JHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Lord, did we? I must have scrubbed it from my memory. And I'm feeling........ glad all over. The Dave Clark 5 revival has obviously not taken off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 We could always record both halves and sell of as a double CD set at the end of each game. Or maybe not. I think it sounded a bit odd but did help the JHS generate some noise when needed. Me, I stayed quiet but my singing voice is most definitely not my best feature. The music before the game and at half time, though, was too loud. Would be ok if you could cut the high-end but if that's not possible then it's got to be down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-R Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 We could always record both halves and sell of as a double CD set at the end of each game. Or maybe not. I think it sounded a bit odd but did help the JHS generate some noise when needed. Me, I stayed quiet but my singing voice is most definitely not my best feature. The music before the game and at half time, though, was too loud. Would be ok if you could cut the high-end but if that's not possible then it's got to be down a bit. This, having to shout at people standing next to you just to have a conversation isn't on for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern jag Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 To b honest sittin at the city end the north stand sounded low.havin the noise piped thru the pa worked a treat,helped the singin a bit towards the end in jhs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_adam Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 It helped generate the singing yes, but the annoying ringing every time they began clapping was really irritating. However, I found myself feeling lost in JHS yesterday because most of those who were singing throughout were in the NS, so I reckon ill probably have to relocate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I was sitting in the middle of the JHS! You were? Then just who the puck was I talking to in the NS???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 It helped generate the singing yes, but the annoying ringing every time they began clapping was really irritating. Well, they need to come clean and admit it was a bit of a bells-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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