kane0 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 The players i would keep for next season would be in goal fox. Defenders balatoni, dowie, McMillan, muirhead o'donnell and Sinclair. In midfield craigen, Forbes,lawless and welsh. Forwards doolan and Elliott. Would loan out scully for the season. Not sure if I would have Daniels as back up to fox or a more experienced keeper. In defence I would loan out Campbell. In midfield I would do the same with halsman and macaleer. Up front I would do the same with mcguigan. If Craig is not being offered a new deal then surely Murray will not an offer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) The players i would keep for next season would be in goal fox. Defenders balatoni, dowie, McMillan, muirhead o'donnell and Sinclair. In midfield craigen, Forbes,lawless and welsh. Forwards doolan and Elliott. Would loan out scully for the season. Not sure if I would have Daniels as back up to fox or a more experienced keeper. In defence I would loan out Campbell. In midfield I would do the same with halsman and macaleer. Up front I would do the same with mcguigan. If Craig is not being offered a new deal then surely Murray will not an offer either. Shuggie still has a year to run on his contract and I cant see him being paid off. A lot of people have turned a blind eye to how well he played at the start of the season and he was a vital part of the all important start we had this season. Whether he could handle SPL at his age is a decision for Archie and Shaggy, but I cant see him getting his contract paid up and let go Edited April 28, 2013 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 The players i would keep for next season would be in goal fox. Defenders balatoni, dowie, McMillan, muirhead o'donnell and Sinclair. In midfield craigen, Forbes,lawless and welsh. Forwards doolan and Elliott. Would loan out scully for the season. Not sure if I would have Daniels as back up to fox or a more experienced keeper. In defence I would loan out Campbell. In midfield I would do the same with halsman and macaleer. Up front I would do the same with mcguigan. If Craig is not being offered a new deal then surely Murray will not an offer either. Highly speculative! Doolan, Forbes, O'Donnell, Elliott, McMillan and Dowie are out of contract in May. It's significant that only Fox has signed a new deal. There is no guarantee that they will re-sign even if they are offered new deals. If they have other options, we could lose them. Campbell, Halsman and Scully are also out of contract and it's far from certain they will get new deals. Daniels will return to Celtic where he is under contract. We can only keep him if they let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I would like to see Doolan, SOD and Forbes stay. Dowie and Elliott aren't good enough and McMillan wasn't great on his debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I would like to see Doolan, SOD and Forbes stay. Dowie and Elliott aren't good enough and McMillan wasn't great on his debut. McMillan was fine on his debut. Probably one of the main reasons we never lost once Muirhead was sent off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Forbes has a big piece in Saturdays Times saying he loves it at Firhill and hopes he gets a contract offer from Archie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Edmonds Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) I'd like us to keep everyone who has played a significant part this season. I'm very disappointed we're not keeping Steven Craig on, he looked hungry to disprove his reputation as a player fit only for the first division. He's also matched Doolan all the way this season, and I imagine Doolan will be offered a contract. Elliott should be kept as a winger to see how he gets on, McGuigan I would loan out to a first division team (Dumbarton may be ideal considering Lister's inevitable departure), and Dowie and McMillan should provide solid back-up for our defence. Scully, Campbell, Halsman and McAleer should be released to give them a chance at other clubs. Otherwise we really should be looking to hold together the team that has won us the league and has such obvious unity in it. Edited April 28, 2013 by Noel Edmonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverandEver Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'd like us to keep everyone who has played a significant part this season. I'm very disappointed we're not keeping Steven Craig on, he looked hungry to disprove his reputation as a player fit only for the first division. He's also matched Doolan all the way this season, and I imagine Doolan will be offered a contract. Elliott should be kept as a winger to see how he gets on, McGuigan I would loan out to a first division team (Dumbarton may be ideal considering Lister's inevitable departure), and Dowie and McMillan should provide solid back-up for our defence. Scully, Campbell, Halsman and McAleer should be released to give them a chance at other clubs. Otherwise we really should be looking to hold together the team that has won us the league and has such obvious unity in it. Where is Lister off to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fredthecheesecloth Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Pretty certain that SOD will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Edmonds Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Where is Lister off to? Nowhere concrete yet, but I understand he's out of contract at the end of the season and going by his impressive goals return this season I imagine he might be off to play full time. There've been a few whisperings of Raith Rovers showing an interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Out of contract: Campbell - No. I thought he was great when he first broke into the squad, but injuries have hampered him and he won't be used next season. Doolan - Yes. Dowie - Unsure. Elliott - No. Forbes - Yes. Halsman - No. McMillan - Yes. O'Donnell - Yes. Scully - No. Dowie is an unsure but verging on yes. He's looked comfortable enough for us. I want Muirhead and Balatoni to be first-choice, then have someone else as back-up, with Dowie centre-half #4. If we're only going into the season with three recognised centre-halfs then we could probably find someone better. Edited April 28, 2013 by ThickAsThieves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Please no Dowie. He is far too slow. He was a nightmare for Dunfermline in the SPL and was part of the team that conceded 82 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I wasn't keen on him coming in but he's done well. Him as 4th choice centre-half will be fine for me. If he doesn't get a new contract, I won't be upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewcal Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm going to go against the tide here and say that I won't be that disappointed if sod leaves. He had a terrific start to the season but,for me, has never really hit they heights again since his injury. Thought McMillan look comfortable at right back and could easily fill sods position as well as be centre half cover. As long as Archie can get someone in to replace Paton(bachirou),erskine(harkins) and now Craig(graham/may?)I would give the squad that won the league their chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Shuggie still has a year to run on his contract and I cant see him being paid off. A lot of people have turned a blind eye to how well he played at the start of the season and he was a vital part of the all important start we had this season. Whether he could handle SPL at his age is a decision for Archie and Shaggy, but I cant see him getting his contract paid up and let go I've had a quick look at the SPL side teams and the thing that hits me right away is the size of their squads compared to ours. I think in fact we have a smaller squad than some first division sides, having sacrificed size for a bit extra quality and depended on players who can fill several roles. Anyway though we'll not manage to match most squads in the SPL (in size) we still will need a bigger squad than next season. That means that one or two players who are maybe 50-50 in some folks minds could be kept on if they can perform more than one function. Murray has been helping with the coaching, so could become a player coach. (In essence replacing Archie). As someone pointed out McGuigan has a degree in sports science and can help in the background as well as playing (or be out on loan to a local club and still be involved at Firhill in another capacity. Where possible bring in guys who can play at least two positions but we'll need a bit of extra quality now Erskine's gone. We've got to make sure we re-sign Forbes or we'll need two more such players. Harkins has been suggested but we might not get him. Is there a winger, midfielder we've played against this season who's given us real problems and can we sign him? Losing Paton and Erskine was a big blow. Our main hope for next season must be that young players like Bannigan, Muirhead, O'Donnell, Craigen, etc.improve from very good first division players into genuine SPL quality players. I don't see any reason why they can't. Also, assuming we need six extra players (not including replacements for guys who might leave) I'd hope most will be in their 20s - old enough to have some experience but young enough to be keen and ambitious. What I also hope is we keep the same system of play. It requires a lot of energy from the team so we'll have to be really fit but it lets us be attacking while still good defensively. Look at our goals against this season. Archie seems to have made a few tweaks to the system to improve our away form and I hope that he sees no more than that is needed to match SPL teams. Of course I realise that depends a lot on the players he can get in. If we can't get the right kinds of players we may have to change the system. Edited April 28, 2013 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 The players i would keep for next season would be in goal fox. Defenders balatoni, dowie, McMillan, muirhead o'donnell and Sinclair. In midfield craigen, Forbes,lawless and welsh. Forwards doolan and Elliott. Would loan out scully for the season. Not sure if I would have Daniels as back up to fox or a more experienced keeper. In defence I would loan out Campbell. In midfield I would do the same with halsman and macaleer. Up front I would do the same with mcguigan. If Craig is not being offered a new deal then surely Murray will not an offer either. I'm guessing.... hoping you just forgot to include Bannigan in the "keep" squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Including Archie, we have lost four players already. I can't see Archie playing unless we are short due to suspensions and injury. We will need cover/competition for Fox and our back four if Dowie and McMillan move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'd like us to keep everyone who has played a significant part this season. I'm very disappointed we're not keeping Steven Craig on, he looked hungry to disprove his reputation as a player fit only for the first division. He's also matched Doolan all the way this season, and I imagine Doolan will be offered a contract. Elliott should be kept as a winger to see how he gets on, McGuigan I would loan out to a first division team (Dumbarton may be ideal considering Lister's inevitable departure), and Dowie and McMillan should provide solid back-up for our defence. Scully, Campbell, Halsman and McAleer should be released to give them a chance at other clubs. Otherwise we really should be looking to hold together the team that has won us the league and has such obvious unity in it. I think he is highly rated by a number of people in the game from what i have heard. I think we should be hanging onto him.Even if McGuigan scores a hat tick against Dumbarton Im still far from convinced. He is only 20 so time yet. Loan him out for a while ideally - Queens Park if promoted - we sign Shankland and loan Shankland and McGuigan to them for a few months Dunfermline - McGuigan as loan and cash for Wallace. Dundee - Loan McGuigan and cash for Baird or Harkins - Im not convinced Baird has been that bad in the SPL set up and scored some goals in a Dundee team that has struggled badly. Though its still not definite that Dundee will be relegated. Or a loan to Raith, Morton etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnikierjag Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 We need to keep all the players we have, there is no way we can afford to sign 10 or more for next season, the money we have should be spent on quality not quantity. This squad we have get on we'll together, bring in players who can enhance what we have already got. I read a comment that we plan to bring in 6 players, sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand2 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Even if McGuigan scores a hat tick against Dumbarton Im still far from convinced. He is only 20 so time yet. Loan him out for a while ideally - McGuigan is 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 There is talk that the defender Tena might be leaving Livi. He has always looked good when I have seen him and worth a few goals a season. Only 22 and a much better option that Dowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 There is talk that the defender Tena might be leaving Livi. He has always looked good when I have seen him and worth a few goals a season. Only 22 and a much better option that Dowie. He was impressive against us. Looks the type to be able to make the step up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow boy Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 halsman has been released . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoncordiner Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Personally I thought Tena was a bit of a sand-dancer. Good with the ball at his feet but didn't look the best defender to me. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoncordiner Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 As I've said on another thread, I'd like to see us be quite brutal. If the player doesn't have a at least a chance of being better than what we've got then it's a no. Those out of contract Campbell - No Doolan - Yes Dowie - No (I don't think he's better than Muirhead or Balatoni) Elliott - No Forbes - Unsure (the SPL might suit Forbes as the pace is less frenetic) Halsman - No McMillan - Yes O'Donnell - Yes Scully - No Craig - No (he's going anyway) Those under contract, assuming that we can negotiate out their contracts McGuigan - No Murray - No McAleer - Yes (based purely on reports of his potential) Craigen - No (I know I'll probably get shot down, but I honestly don't see what people are raving about, I hope I'm proved wrong) Overall, I think we have a decent team already signed up for next year. I don't want us to keep anyone that is on the fringes of the current team. Honestly, why would we? If they're not good enough now, they'll be well short next year. We have a good goalkeeper, a solid defence already in place, and some excellent midfielders. We can build around them, not make up the squad with our already bit part players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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