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  1. the problem is you make statements like 'we are x' and then follow with 'speaking personally' which doesn't really fit well together.

     

    speaking personally, hearing wonderous chants such 'they're are only hoors, poofs, and junkies' sang loudly and proudly at morton fans does not sit well a definition of a fanbase that is in any way shape or form progressive.

     

    we should maybe take the plank out of our eye before worrying about the speck in our brothers eye.

     

    Speaking personally meant that I have my opinion and am not forcing it on you, but I'm part of a "we". We can disagree within ourselves, but that is how I see it, and us. If my folks hadn't objected to Rangers and Celtic way back then I might be somewhere else, though I rejected them myself, at a time when I might have ended up at Ibrox, because I reasoned, how can I support a club that rejects many of my best friends? Thistle, like Barca, more than a club to me. They were and still are my local team, but we all know that you don't automatically support your local team. I wish many more did. We'd all be much better off.

     

    If anybody wants to do something about this then count me in. If you don't fancy it then feel free to stay out of it. That's your equal right, and well respected.

  2. I have to agree, there was a huge feel good factor last week. Feeling like the fans eventually being drawn closer to the club. Jackie is a good guy that has the respect of the players from what i gathered last week.

     

    I feel more optimistic about this appointment than i did the appointment of McCall who i rated highly.

     

     

    Me too. I'm hoping that we've sorted ourselves out fairly well on and off the field, and some of our rivals next season may have some harder times coming.

     

    A wee thumbs up too for the Jagscast and what that's bringing us, including this. Pre-fanzine days seem like light years ago.

  3. Bang on. Always found it surreal that folk demand that football fans should be a-political in the face of racism and sectarianism which is pretty engrained in Scottish football. Thistle have always been against the bigotry which comes out of the Green and Blue parts of Glasgow, don't see why it shouldn't be an overt position of our fans. Personally would be happy to see us putting across anti-bigotry and anti-racist messages in as many ways as we can. :thumbsup2:

     

    I like the idea. Call it opportunism if you like, I just think it's speaking up for what you think is right, and it IS part of why I follow Thistle. We're valid in our own right, and not just as an prinncess to the ugly sisters, but we are in Glasgow so that is part of it. Speaking personally.

  4. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I noticed that Ami has not introduced the recent match highlights films. Should I read anything into it? She is there on the promo clip of course so hopefully she's still very much around. She comes over well in my opinion so I hope she'll be around for years to come. Mind you, I still miss Molly Stallon.

  5. Nearly a whole page in the Sun today about our new management team. Pity there was no mention of Thistle at all. Mentioned their charity walk, mentioned the Neil Lennon situation and finshed off with the race for the SPL title. Way to go guys.

     

    I just read the same piece, in a shop over some lunch. Gawd forbid I'd ever actually buy the rag. Anyway, it just underlines that the only point of clubs like us to most of the media is as a place where former ugly sisters players go when they're surplus to reqirements. Sadly even the Sunday Herald is going down that route these days. No 1st Division match reports now, though I see that they backtracked on the "no sports pull out" policy so if we make enough fuss then....

  6. I support Partick Thistle because religion is not involved and because of Denis McQuade.

     

    Everything said here about Denis McQuade, no matter how improbable it may sound to younger fans, is true.

     

    I have been lucky enough to see many scottish greats (Dalglish, Law, Johnstone Eddie Gray etc), but on his day Dennis was just unplayable and more than their equal.

     

    I never saw this one myself but somebody once told me a story of how, on a very windy day, he hit a shot so badly that it blew back to him, and then he volleyed it into the top corner. Sounds imposible, but with Denis anything was possible. Can anybody verify this story?

     

    I had a look on youtube and probably the only film of him in in the 71 final, and the Danny Kellachan at Parkhead film, though neither show any of his magic. Not that his Hampden goal wasn't magic in it's own way.

  7. Picked up an excellent "Jags 76" t-shirt on Saturday for £8. The Sauchiehall St store is clearly running down a lot of "old" Jags stock. Here's hoping for an influx of good new stuff soon.

     

    Including the Thistle tartan scarves!

     

    Was just wondering about that myself. I just checked back and they emailed me on 14th January to say they were sourcing material then would present it to the board. Here's hoping that's still a goer.

  8. one of the nicest (and, it goes without saying, one of the most amusing) men i ever interviewed...

     

    I swear, that at Kilbowie, in a friendly (they were Division 2 and we were Division 1) I once saw Denis dribble past at least 6 or 7 Clydebank players around the edge of the area, and found himself through on the keeper, totally in the clear. The goalie seemed mesmerised. All Denis had to do was put it either side of him. He didn't even dive, or move, and Denis fluffed it tamely right into his arms.

     

    That's a true story. Maybe it was more than 7 that he beat. In fact it still has me beat and I remember it like it was yesterday. I think it ended 1-1 but that didn't matter. That's my abiding memory of Denis McQuade, along with Jackie Campbell my all time Jags fave.

  9. To some extent im happy. yes i severely deteste real madrid. however i wanted man united to beat them in the final.

    its gonna be interesting to see what happens this time around. man utd could potentially win

     

    Almost certainly a Barca v Man U final. Both teams became European champions there for the first time. They're now 3-3, I think? Barca might pass them off the park but Man U can be dangerous and can't be written off. Could be a cracker, but I also remember many let down finals. One of the worst was Red Star Belgrade v Marseilles, but it's not the only one.

     

    Here's hoping this time though.

  10. I detest both halves of the Old Firm, but it's not an equal hatred - I do hate Rangers more. I find their fans more offensive, I find their players more offensive, I find the club in general to be more offensive. I love it when they lose in Europe, especially to weak opponents - with Celtic it's not as funny. If this leaves me open to accusations of being a closet Celtic fan, then fine, but it's true. I have no family background of Old Firm supporting, so have no in-built sympathy for either - and I would say that, in my experience anyway, among people in a similar position, there are more people who hate Rangers more.

     

    I kind of understand what you're saying but I also find Celtic's paranoia irritating so it's 50/50 overall for me. Anyway. Who cares? I don't. I'm a JAGS fan. First and only, aside from Scotland.

     

    Can we please drop this one? It's way too negative for me, but carry on if you must. Hope not though. Can we not talk about our team instead?

  11. This is the first time I've checked the Herald stats page. Some interesting reading:

    http://footballstats.heraldscotland.com/?pStr=Team_Stats&Cust=7010&Lang=0&ctid=16&cpid=3&TeID=212

     

    The bar chart shows really nicely the change in form after Fox took over starting with the 11th league match.

    Also, by far our most frequent result in the last 20 matches has been.......... 0-0.

     

     

    ...and remember pointing out a few months ago, around the turn of the year, that we'd only had about one draw in several months. Typical Jags, one extreme to another.

  12. Primarily black and yellow bars, separated by red lines in between each bar and red tassels at each end. On each yellow bar it has the old bomber badge with 'Partick', above it and 'Thistle' underneath it.

     

    If we keep this going and brush it up, maybe we could publish something? Or post something on a special web page? These memories are great, and I could certainly add to my own. Just a thought.

  13. Back in the late 70s thistle came up for a match (cant remember if it was cup or a friendly) against Buckie thistle (my local team), as all my mates were smeltic/h*ns or worse the HARdons fans so I started to follow thistle, simples :fan:

     

    I seem to remember the last time this came up someone called me a glory hunter for doing this :shok:

     

    Glory hunter and jags fan surely dont go together :surprised:

     

    I think you got that right! Are we masochists or what? Whatever, we're a different breed to the glory hunters, and we know who they are.

  14. October '71, and I'm sitting in a caravan in St Andrews, aware that there's a cup final on but not paying special attention, until Frank Bough, in the Grandstand studio, comes on and says something along the lines of "we have a remarkable latest score from Hampden in the Scottish League Cup Final. It says Partick Thistle 4 Celtic 0, but we'll check that one for you".

     

    A couple of minutes later he confirmed that really was the score, but he still seemed unconvinced. This must have been around quarter to 4. I sat up, suddenly interested. I knew this was something special, and that my local team (I lived in Scotstoun, so Thistle were my local team as far as I was concerned, the other side of the river was a distant land to me, and Mum and Dad were not keen on me going to Ibrox or Parkhead, bless 'em) were cuffing the best team in the uk. I probably became a Jags fan there and then. I got nervous, expecting a Celtic fightback. Every time Frank Bough read score updates I dreaded a Celtic goal, but time ticked by. We got the occasional update.....still 4-0 at Hampden. I started to relax a bit then.....4-1. Aw naw. Here it comes....more time ticked by, it got to half four. Still 4-1. I started to relax a bit and finally old Frank confirmed the final score. Yessss!!

     

    I'd been to Hampden for a Scotland v Wales 0-0, and a family friend took me to a Rangers v Bayern 1-1 but I wasn't grabbed. We left before Rangers late equaliser so maybe that did me a favour.

     

    I went to my first Thistle game a few weeks after the final, another 0-0 against Dundee. I remember a Denis McQuade run and shot, and a late Alan Rough save. Later that season I saw Jimmy Bone and Bobby Lawrie score in a 2-0 v Aberdeen. A shot from the edge of the box slammed into the net. The crowd roared and jumped about. My first live goal, aside from the Bayern goal which was met by silence, so that was me hooked, and a certified Jags fan.

     

    My favourites then were Denis McQuade, Badger, but especially Jackie Campbell. A true Jags legend.

  15. I always wear one of my Jags tops on days the OF play each other. Yesterday I went the whole hog, top and tracksuit, son had his top on AND I changed my profile pic on facebook to the Partick Thistle crest...distanced myself from that lot as much as possible :D

     

    I hear you. I don't see many Old Firm games actually, as most aren't on cooncil telly and I don't fancy going out to watch the ugly spectacles, but the last time one was one in the house, I did make a point of wearing my Jags fleece.

  16. If that's what you want me to be - then fine Bunny - but you have obvious issues deeper than me Sir :(

     

    I think it's reasonable to ask why you would prefer one side or another, whether you dislike them or not. In a poisoned and twisted city like ours, twisted nation actually (don't believe this doesn't happen in other places) saying you prefer one or another leaves you open to question. "So you prefer Rangers then? Ok, you dislike Catholics then. Aha..." Even if you don't. Maybe you do, who knows, IF you do then that's your problem and your natural home is Ibrox, but either way it's a minefield.

     

    Preferring Celtic is maybe slightly different, but so what anyway? I'd rather discuss whether I prefer Raith Rovers to Falkirk, or Hamilton to Airdrie, or....enough please. If we all have to be blue or green then I'd rather emigrate.

     

    Sure, we're a team in our own right without defining ourselves only against Rangers and Celtic, but being NOT The Old Firm IS part of it for me, like it is for other Jags fans, and others like us, from Morton, Stenhousemuir, Alloa, Dunfermline, St Johnstone etc etc etc.

  17. Anybody else remember the "promise" that away fans would never be allowed into the JH stand now that the north stand was available?

     

    Anything to save money I suppose. One one hand it's not ideal having to share a stand, on the other hand it's a bit sad that we're living in times when we're not allowed to mingle with fellow human beings. It happened as a matter of course not so long ago, and I don't remember that many problems, though I've recently mentioned some unpleasant times when mingled with Rangers fans. Aside from these bad shed moments, there was another time in the main stand, with 2 empty seats beside me and most already taken, I saw Andy Cameron walking up the stairs, in our direction. Aw naw, please gawd..... I've never been more relieved to see somebody walk past.....

     

    Thanks for filling me in on what happened yesterday. I like to think that most supporters are reasonable people that can get on, but that excludes the "my team right or wrong" type on the post Old Firm phone in today. Nuff said.

  18. A good friend, Morton regular, was at Firhill today and told me that they got a really hard time from the stewards, for no good reason. Sounds like typical stewards really, but you'd hope that your own would be better than some of the tw*ts you encounter at away grounds.

     

    It got me wondering though. Who are our stewards? Club employees? Hired security? Or...what? I've no idea. Anybody know?

  19. I completely agree. Do diehard Oldham fans get asked which really is their team - Man U or City?

     

    Stuart Cosgrove once gave a round up of individual club fans in Scotland. In his piece on Partick Thistle he said the question you should never ask one of their fans "which team do you really support?"

     

    That's one of my pet hates. Who do you REALLY support?

     

    NEITHER! I think we'd be a whole lot better off as a city and nation if they didn't exist. Most of the debate surrounding their match tomorrow doesn't even involve football. Sorry. I don't need that in my life.

  20. ...I heard on the radio tonight that the rearranged Q o S v Ross Co fixture is to be played at a neutral venue. Surely that works against Cowdenbeath as they and County try to avoid the play off position?

    I don't for a moment believe that Queens should benefit from this fixture but in no way should Cowdenbeath's chances of staying up be reduced. Maybe if Cowden hadn't had to travel to Palmerston today they might have done better than draw with Queens. :unsure:

    From a selfish point of view I suppose our chances of finishing fourth are slightly better but imo this is just another example of the totally inept SFL making arbitrary decisions.

     

    Tricky one this. It could be argued that Ross County should have been awarded the points. I don't even know what the right call is here.

  21. Took a mate from work to that game and he brought his wee boy with him. trying to get them to convert to the Jags and to join us every 2nd week at Firhill.

     

    0-3 down and I am getting all sorts of abuse and his boy is not enjoying it one bit. Had to really work hard on persuading him to stay.

     

    By the end of the game 3-3 and the place is electric. Turned to my mate with a big grin and said "welcome to the world of Thistle" :lol: Since been back to quite a few games with his boy :thumbsup2:

     

    I wasn't there but that reminds me of one time I nearly left. Remember that game against Rangers at Firhill, where we took the lead through Geordie Shaw, then lost 4-1. The 4th goal (I think) was a shot from almost the halfway line, from Mark Hateley, which somehow bounced over Craig Nelson's dive and ended up in the net. I was pig sick by then and started walking round to leave, slowly, then stood behind some fat ugly Rangers fan (no segregation then) who said something like "this is like taking sweeties from weans" and that got me annoyed the other way, so I determined to stay, and went back towards the shed again, to tough out the rest of the game, and get away from that moron. Since then I've decided I'll never leave a game early. It couldn't get much worse than that day, but I don't blame anybody else if they do leave.

     

    I also remember McCoist's last gasp winner on the last night of the Shed, and how I saw some Rangers animal screaming triumphantly in a Jags fans face who was beside him. I'll never understand how he kept his dignity, and his fists in his pocket. Grr. Not pleasant memories but if you support teams like Thistle in a country like this then you need a thick skin.

  22. I'd hate to see Duffy ever back at Thistle. He's no more a Jags man than Chick Young is a St Mirren fan.

     

    As for McCall, I'll wait and see what his next career move is before I decide if I am angry about him leaving.

     

    We have a lot to thank him for regarding the youth policy though.

     

    I nearly voted 50/50 but opted for pleased. For me his heart's not been in it for a couple of seasons and managers always come and go, and we need some freshening. Get the wrong man or team in and it can get worse but on the other hand, it could get better too. As Bill Hicks said, it's just a ride.

     

    Jim Duffy may be from the area and have played for us for a couple of successful seasons, BUT, he's always seemed more interested in Dundee than us, for some reason. I lived there for a couple of years and can't abide Dundee FC, so that doesn't endear Duffy to me. I expect he'd do a good job but I'm not pining for the return of a prodigal son.

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