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That's £10 into the Fund for the Jags! I refuse to subsidise Cove Rangers!

Up to you how to spend your money. I would say give the money to the Thistle go fund me .

What is going on with Lyons ? A player who was a standout in league 1 last season, scored 10 goals in 26 league games. Just the type of player we need and his time on the park has been very limited. I know we were told a few weeks ago his fitness was not up to the mark, but surely we have sorted that out now.

Was involved in a Zoom call yesterday. Long and short: (a) the Working Group is a serious group of people (b) their pitch can be a wee bit sentimental, but I get that they'll engage 3 fans for every fan that finds it a bit twee (c) they've clearly been doing some serious work on the corporate governance side with the Club (d) they've been taking preliminary decisions which won't all be popular but which are, in terms of ensuring the Club has options in the future, are extremely sensible (e) the extent of the work they and the 3BC lawyers especially seem to have done now re-enforces how laughable the original timescale of three months was (f) it's not going to be a quick process, and will probably be driven more by the winding-up of Colin Weir's estate than anything else, but realistically the transfer is the only show in town now (g) main obstacles to making a success of this are engagement levels and (longer-term) alternative revenue streams (h) people need to be patient in the transition: it's not realistic to expect the fanbase to replace the existing expertise and corporate structures overnight. If fan ownership is to work, it requires the current Club board to have a role and even if you think they've been a bit shit at times, try not to lose sight of the bigger picture.

Everyone at The Thistle Archive is pleased to support Phil's excellent RedYellow.org fan merchandise initiative. With all profits donated to PTFC, it's a win-win with Christmas coming up and a great product range on offer. The footer of every page at The Thistle Archive now has a handy link through to the shop. 'mon the Jags!

That was the best Scotland performance in years. Only complaint was they didn't win more comfortably. Total sucker punch at the end. Great to see Scotland players having a real pride in playing for their country. Well done, totally deserved.

Hi all I am putting my head above the parapet here. Myself and one other WG member are facilitating these Zoom calls. These will shortly be replaced by something designed to reach a wider audience more quickly. We have really welcomed the feedback that we have received on these calls to date, which goes far beyond what is mentioned in the programme. The programme works to a very early deadline, and another WG member has responsibility for that and so updates from those sessions have not all filtered through yet. The next calls are likely to be next week (with invites to go out shortly), and if anyone wishes to be included, I would be very happy to add you to the invite list. (PM me on here or send the WG email address an email). All are genuinely welcome - and I can promise carbon neutrality, not for profit, and board diversity are unlikely to be mentioned unless they are a burning issue for you! I know there is a scepticism about all of this for many reasons but this is a genuine reaching out to attempt to share the plans of substance with you, and I hope you can engage with it. The point of the consultation is to get the input of you all. Some of us are seriously passionate about that. Finally, I am sure there are many many more enjoyable ways to find that 15 mins of fame, AFK, I can assure you! Sandy

Can see this finishing 2-2. Falling too deep again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-54830945 https://donateaticket.com/donate/maryhill-fc/ saw this on the bbc site in case anyone fancied helping out our neighbours or their local non-league team with a few quid. Tthe SPFL teams can take a flying **** to themselves tho...

Sorry to disagree lib. I feel if we are serious about getting out of this league first time of asking, we need to win our home games.With us losing our first 2 away games this also puts pressure on us getting 3 points at home. Also if we are serious about promotion this season our away form has to improve and improve quickly. All of these factors even more important in that if we do complete the season there is only 27 games, also it is not unreasonable to think the season could end even sooner than the 27 game season that is planned. We need to get points on the board sooner rather than later. If the last 3 seasons has taught us nothing else, it has taught us that a poor/slow start is very costly.

Oh but it could. A lot of similarities between McCall and Archibald’s squads. No pace Little creativity Lack of goals Leaky defence Ultra cautious defensive line ups Tippy tappy side to side rubbish McCall goes - the 2 assistants go. Has to be.

How did they vote? #notaf***ingpenny

I had a zoom call tonight, answered a lot of my questions and quelled my concerns. I’d encourage you to reach out yourselves for a call

Hi all The purpose of the initial calls was to make sure any recurring messages were captured in the wider consultation, to make that as useful as possible. We do not expect to engage with everyone through a series of calls with 6 people a time! There will be a final round of these calls next week, and after that a wider consultation will be launched to a wider audience by a different medium than Zoom call. As I have said before, feel free to PM me on here and I am very happy to have you included on those calls. If not, you should have greater substance available to you soon for you to consider. Sandy

I'm grateful for this. The Archive guys contacted me this week with this very kind offer. I was genuinely touched. It's a great idea that Partick Thistle fans online initiatives should support one another. The Thistle Archive is a fantastic resource for all Jags fans, mind-boggling I its scope. I tip my hat and will be putting links to the site on RedYellow.org this weekend. Once again big thanks to The Archive Four. Now, into this mob Thistle!

Brilliant result and great to see guys like O'Donnell, Dykes and Gallagher be such a major part of the success. Guys like those have had to work their way back from the footballing scrap heap and deserve their chance. Such a refreshing change from the Fergusons and McGregors of this world who turned up when they wanted and played their own game. Watched Dykes playing for QOS against us and I'm amazed at the transformation in him. Couldn't believe Livingston took him into the premier league far less that he would be an international striker making international defenders look silly. It puts paid to the idea that you need to be in EPL or playing for the old firm to be a success at international football and that there is no talent in the lower Scottish leagues. You need a manager that organises and selects a team based on what will work best and players who do the job they are asked. Other managers would have dropped O'Donnell, Dykes and Gallagher in favour of playing Palmer, McKenna, McBurnie or Cooper as they are percieved as playing at a higher level. Perhaps that ethos stems from having a manager who has himself came from a provincial club having previously being in the managerial wilderness. Full credit to Steve Clarke. He's got us organised, looks like he's solved the Tierney and Robertson conundrum and created an atmosphere that players will do what is asked just to be part of it. We might lose every game at the finals but its infinetly better than not being there. Special mention to Ryan Christie. The goal was good but his post match interview was the encapsulation of 22 years of watching Scotland. Tears, snotters and for once absolute joy.

A lot of football clubs produce a Christmas Jumper. Not Thistle. Today, I'm righting a wrong.

Sure, but for today, the win is more important than the performance. A good performance will come if we start winning

I honestly don’t know how much more of this I can take. To say I’m scunnered and embarrassed is an understatement. Iv backed the club financially throughout the summer (season tickets,merchandise,centenary fund etc) and now I’m starting to think they’ve seen me coming. What’s seriously concerning me is how NOTHING has changed since our relegation season from premiership. Different manager, different players but same old toothless team of sh1tebags taking the field on a Saturday. I like mccall and I was delighted when he was appointed but he’s fast running out of time to get this right.

What's your actual problem with the chairwoman? Give me some actual reasons? Backing managers in the transfer market, appointing a manager with a good track record that the majority of fans were behind, I think McCall's times up but the demise is not the chairwomans fault. To be honest it all began around the time Maxwell left. Blame the players, full time in a part time league, and the old pals act management team, but from what I can see the ' chairwoman' has provided funds, backed managers and has thistle at heart and is way down the list of people to blame for the club's current position

#notaf***penny

Apart from that Mrs Lincoln how was your evening?

Going to my fifth live match of this season tomorrow (includes one away). It's an odd atmosphere but the players seem to be getting more used to it. Other than one club celebrating with fans everyone else is behaving very well. As I spend most of my week indoors it is a real pick up getting out for a few hours. I have pretty good health so I feel for those who are confined and are missing their weekly outing. We're back behind closed doors again next week so this might be my last live game this year. Of course many folk have seen their last match ever.

Possibly speed up the midfield as well

I really quite enjoy spending time with my wife and I know that if she is happy I am happy! It's one of the reasons we will soon be celebrating our 48th anniversary. It's also one of the reasons that she is prepared to spend an hour driving into Aberdeen on a Saturday morning to drop me off at 9.30am and later does the same again to pick me up at 10.00pm! Without her help I wouldn't be able to get to Glasgow to watch the Jags! It's called give and take!

Walk past Firhill on Saturday morning and you may find yourself in the squad, be careful though your likely to get injured and miss your work on Monday

We need a third assistant manager to get to the bottom of it

I agree with your comments except for the last sentence. McCall has already admitted he made decisions to bring in a number of players to improve the quality of player and the balance of the squad. He also stated his planning was based on completing a full season because he knew it would take time for the team to gel given the number of changes he made. By all accounts the team performances improved in the last 3 matchless v Alloa, QOS and Dunfermline and but for a shocking refereeing decision we probably would have beaten QOS. On the basis of how we played in these games I am confident we would have not relegated had the season been completed. McCall was caught out by the early ending of the season and as a result we were demoted. Is he still the man for the job. I think he is and should be given this season to prove it.

Can't believe it. My mum won this one - I put the numbers on for her.

Breenigan?

I love the idea that McCall reckons he could put out a weakened side. Holding the Big Guns back for the the home game against East Fife perhaps?

Oh for a Willie in our current team! No plays on the name please-keep it clean. 7 in the list, including the top 2, which includes you know who.... I remember quite a few on the list. Kris, Dave McParland, Tommy Ewing, Coulston and Bone, Joe Craig ,& not forgetting one of my favourite Jags, Dougie Somner. Good work!

Our latest page, the Illustrated Top 50 competitive scorers is worth a look...

The list of recurring themes is just a number of aspirational aims. Not for profit can, as recent posts have shown, mean any number of things, & should have been properly outlined. The diversity of any future board, and becoming carbon neutral are peripheral issues, & just detract from reality and the prime function of the club, ie. to be successful on the pitch. If someone thinks its a good wheeze to put out this rubbish & the success is having issues "discussed", then they don't realise that we're fast running out of time to escape from League 1, and short term success is much more relevant at this time. Whoever has written this , my reply is simply "grow up now!" I should have added that the whole statement comes across as an exercise in intellectual arrogance.

I really like the look of Niang. He deserves a chance to prove himself.

Just never liked the smell and i also seen how alcohol changed some people and not for the best either. I have managed without it all these years, no need for it now. But i will raise a virtual glass to you and everybody else with Thistle connections. Lets hope the better times are just around the corner.

The sooner we realise we're in league one playing mostly part-timers then maybe we will get back to basics. Straight forward 4-4-2 with two wingers. Between the apparently 'undroppable' Banzo and Docherty, one of them need to get forward to support the attack. The slow pedestrian nature of the two kills our move before it even gets started. Its goals you need to win games and its goals we have struggled with this year. Anything other than a win and we can forget winning the league, simple as that

It’s got to be more than that , playing exciting football or the kids will just go to Parkhead or Ibrox . We’ve got to have an identity rather than what the Old Firm stand for Catholics support Celtic or Protestants support Rangers . Our fan base is going to be built in the future by getting the surrounding schools involved and making them feel part of things , as this moment with what is happening on and off the park we have no identity. Being a PTFC supporter for nigh on 50 years , I’ve seen lots of failed Partick Thistle teams , been through Save the Jags etc etc , saw the promotions under John Lambie and Archie which were great. Saw great players like Glavin , Alan Hansen ,Mojo , Chic , Dools , Erskine etc Watching PTFC over the years through good times and bad times there always seemed to be a glimmer of hope ,with the present incumbents and the Manager, I have no idea where that glimmer is coming from.

For me the rot setting in started 3 years ago. After we meekly lost to Kilmarnock at Firhill when they had their youth coach in charge, Archibald should have been sacked. It continued when we hired Caldwell. I never wanted him as our manager, not because of who he played for, but because of his managerial record. Apart from Wigan giving him loads to spend to win the EFL 1 title he was a serial loser as a manager. When we hired McCall i thought at last we had someone in who could steady the club. After a good start, it has been downhill since. After 2 transfer windows McCall has only managed 1 league win all calendar year. I don't think he will be sacked, can we really afford to sack 3 managers in just over 2 years. In November we have 3 league games 2 at Firhill, Falkirk and East Fife, 1 at Montrose. 9Points from these 3 games would be great and hopefully see us starting to look the promotion favourites we are meant to be, less than 7 points and it is another season of struggles.

Guys that have been picking a wage up like banzo should be taking a good look at themselves too

Absolutely gutted after that. Like most people I want McCall to succeed as that means Thistle are winning but he is making it really hard for people to make a strong case for him continuing if results and performances don't turn around ASAP.

Time for McCall and his coaching staff, Britton and Scott Allison at academy level to vacate the premises , our club is riddled by losers who continue to fail and still keep there jobs

Yes! This guy gets it. Probably the least successful professional club in Scotland with two pathetic national titles to our name. We celebrate failure. But "at least we ur no the old furm"

This club is a shambles from top to bottom. From the deluded incompetents running and ruining the Club to the absolute garbage footballers with no bottle. We must be the only Club in Scotland who reward failure. A continuous losing mentality. Half of those wasters are those who got us relegated last season. But it doesn't matter, it was 50 years ago we beat Celtic in the League Cup.

How far have we fallen, too many players about who helped to relegate us last year , they weren’t good enough last year or this year . No discernible style of play , no pace or creativity in the team . We've now lost 2 out of the first 3 games , mostly against Part Time Players, in a full season the Champions at the most lose 4 or 5 games all season, it’s not going to happen for us . Totally down to McCall , our Club has lost its identity on and off the park, no prospects coming through from the Academy which is actually irrelevant now . Time for a change

Yeh do wish the club would do something else to honour Davie McParland now the training ground has went pear shaped. Not too many of his kind will we see again in the modern game and he should be commemorated for past and future generations.

From BBC site : "Dundee United owner Mark Ogren has called for financial support from the Scottish government, as the club talks with players and staff about wage cuts." Bit of a cheek, no? surely they should "just take the medicine"?

With the possible exception of Dundee I believe Brechin have lately behaved the most despicably. No doubt using his position within the ruling bodies their chairman managed to realign his club into the Lowland League in event of almost certain demotion from League Two. That shift of demographics would of course have resulted in the other Lowland League clubs forking out extra dosh in travel expense. Then along comes covid ensuring Brechin will not have to face Kelty or Brora. No club has done well out of this lockdown but of all 44 clubs involved in the voting outcome over the summer Brechin have suffered the least, certainly status wise. Where I maintain Brechin behaved despicably was with regards to Brora and Kelty. Even when they knew their own club was safe re League Two status they voted against a reconstructed league set up that would've allowed Brora and Kelty promotion. Had Brechin been confident that they had a stronger team than both of those clubs they no doubt would've welcomed what would in effect have been a safety valve for them this season. Clearly that's not the case which kinda indicates they knew they would've been unlikely to have survived the play off in the first place.

you're very welcome ya plamph

It's already been mentioned here but Kieran Wright's quick thinking was pivotal. With Airdrie screaming for a penalty, he took the ref's attention from the incident by getting play moving again rapidly. Terrific throw to the half way line, catching Airdrie out, and a few touches later Spittal scores.