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This will be my first in-person game for about seven years, and about fifth in total since I first got dragged to a Thistle game by a crazed/far-sighted distant relative in 1975. Since then it's been a mixture of (mostly) spills and (irregular) thrills following Thislte from Australia but I've loved every romantic moment of being a Jags fan. Let's hope I'm a lucky charm.

We will be bringing a couple of hundred strong group to the game on Saturday of players and parents to give many of them their first taste of senior football. (Although plenty of Thistle fans in the group). We are a club based the north and west of the city and play in Scotstoun Stadium, have been running for a couple of years and have 150+ girls aged between 6-16 training and playing each week. We have competitive and community teams and are always looking for new players, so check out the website or come and see us on Saturday if you are interested. https://phoenixgirlsfc.co.uk/ So if you see a bright pink top on Saturday you know who they are and hopefully they are converted to lifelong Thistle fans 😉🔴🟡⚫

I was there on Tuesday. Have had a busy week since! I took quick notes on the iPhone and have now put these into some semblance of order as below. Apologies that the formatting has not quite come through as I would have hoped. This is not an official record and no doubt there is a lot I have omitted, misunderstood or unfairly edited. It does not come with any agenda and should not be used to promote anyone else's agenda, as there will have been further explanatory or qualifying comments I have not recorded. Anyway, hopefully it is of some help. Please do not shoot the messenger! PARTICK THISTLE FOOTBALL CLUB BOARD QUESTION & ANSWER 27/08/2024 SUMMARY OF TOPICS ADDRESSED 1. INTRODUCTORY FROM THE WRITER • Notes by supporter in attendance-no official role • Not a court stenographer-not pretend to be complete/comprehensive record • Questioners and answerers not identified to avoid data protection issues • Random of mixture of questions/comments pre-submitted and from the room • Have tried to group by topic which may not coincide with chronological order • To paraphrase Eric Morecambe, I may have played most of the right notes, but not necessarily in the correct order 2. BOARD • Brief introductions (including new General Manager) • Turnover/stability of board members and senior employees • Transparency-more and better communication will come • Improved customer service to fans o Answer phones and return calls more efficiently o Replying more quickly to email and other communications • Corporate Governance Manual-skills based recruitment process • 5 Year Vision document • Some similarity to Exeter City approach • Look to replace expertise/input re hospitality • Unusual to function without Chairperson. Have thus far worked well collegially but will keep under review • Work with TJF on Fans’ Charter • Fan experience forum • Fair Game Index encouraging, but can do better in several areas 3. FINANCES • Aspiration to be mid-table Premiership club competing regularly in Europe • Cannot keep going back to investor (who seems to have other friends/contacts also willing to invest) • Build infrastructure and revenue streams so that continued investment not needed • Unexpected operations to treat injuries contributed to previous losses. Injuries unfortunate-not due to any inadequacy in Garscube facilities • Tough to break even in Championship. Huge disparity with Premiership income • Impossibility of competing effectively for promotion without investing in squad • Disparity in prize money per place in table. Low budget means low finish and consequently less to spend next season • Measured decision to invest more in team this season. Window of opportunity when no big budget big beast in Championship • Budget now for £280K loss this season, then review. Not sustainable long term • Tranche 2 is on the table-decision is for fans-if voted down, cash flow can be managed for this season, but player budget would be substantially reduced next season • After Tranche 2 club would still be 65% fan owned. Money is for infrastructure, not control • Anticipated increase in commercial revenues • Maximise existing offerings: o Season tickets-generally on track with last season which was huge increase on norm-Euros expense contributed to lag in take up o Hospitality o Lotto • JagZone paywall unfortunate but is substantial contributor to revenue. 700 subscribers. More and better digital content promised. • Losing revenue due to smaller away supports this season • Unlikely further pre-window signing unless exceptional opportunity presents itself. Already have best squad in league despite disappointing early results • Every effort made to retain best players. Not always possible to match rival offers • Women’s team helped by success of men’s team. Full time a long way off. Have come so far so fast but difficult to make next leap when budget a fraction of leading 5 competitors • General encouragement to support club and team in every way possible. Have to work together to be competitive. 4. ENCOURAGING/WELCOMING NEW SUPPORTERS • General theme of inclusiveness/absolutely everybody rather than segmenting. Within that try to attract specific groupings: o Women/girls/younger children-growing market with huge further potential  Improved toilet facilities absolutely essential  Face-painting came up numerous times  More entertainment  Women’s team support good way in o Students-new initiatives o Kids football teams-pester power o Visitors to Glasgow, especially those here over a weekend and looking for easily accessible football  ensure PTFC represented on relevant visitor websites  better signage locally o OF families looking for a less toxic environment-evidence that this is gaining traction o Disabled Supporters o LGBTQ/Proud Jags o Public transport users-unfortunately First Bus removed offer. Seemed to be used by many not necessarily going to Firhill! 5. STADIUM • Not considering move from Firhill (would require fan vote) • Keep city end/bing development under review, but no immediate plans. Not need more seats or hospitality areas • Jackie Husband and Main Stands requiring increasing maintenance • Roof repairs • Broken seats • Adverts on stair risers • “Sweat the asset”-make more use of facilities all week round • Separate training ground not a realistic prospect Pyrotechnics-dangers emphasised

Not for a while. He pulled his hamstring next Tuesday.

This is all actually quite straightforward to answer. In February 2024 (note more than a month after the last Club AGM) the Club and Trustees signed the Club-Trust Agreement, which spent two months out for consultation to fans before that. It was prominently drawn to the attention of all season ticket holders, TJF and Jags Trust members, and indeed the fans more generally. The CTA sets out a range of reserved matters which require Trustee (and in some cases, Beneficiary) approval before the Club Board can take them. This is completely normal at fan owned Clubs, and our own CTA is based on that used by Exeter City. As part of that, Trustee approval is needed for several of the things James Alexander has raised above. In particular, the Club’s budget must be approved in draft by the Trustees before it is formally adopted by the Club Board. The Club Board remains responsible for the content and delivery of the budget, but its broad parameters are subject to Trustee agreement. TJF also held discussions with the Club Board, at the same time, to discuss what we would propose to our members with regard to the Football Club pledge for 2024-25, so that the Club Budget could reflect that. As part of the budget approval process, the Trustees were presented (this year) with two variations of the same budget (both detailed Excel documents with plentiful commercially sensitive information). We were also shown the management accounts and a presentation summarising the key changes planned from the previous year. After we gave some feedback on the budgeting assumptions, and some other business decisions had been set out to us supplementary to those original documents, a revised budget was presented and formally approved in early June. This was the first time we had done a budget exercise under the CTA and there were some key learning points. For example, we agreed, supplementary to the CTA’s terms, that management accounts would be regularly shared with the Trustees, so that we can assess the in-year performance of the finances against start-of-year projections and raise concerns if this deviates drastically. In terms of the scrutiny process, it was mainly Andrew Holloway and me who helped develop the Trustees’ position, with some assistance from Morag on The Jags Trust side. We had a detailed meeting at which five of the then six Club Board members were in attendance. As Andrew said at our AGM, they were all fully engaged with the process and gave detailed and candid views on what they felt was and wasn’t achievable. In terms of major expenditure, you will note that the CTA requires trustee approval in relation to any contract, or series of contracts, amounting to a value greater than £50k. The only carve out here is for footballing employment contracts, which do not need trustee approval. There is also a requirement for consent to be sought to change the role and responsibilities of the CEO/equivalent. When the Club Board signalled its intention to hire Levi as a General Manager, that therefore also required trustee approval. It helped that the Trust had, at the Club Board’s invitation, been involved in the open recruitment process, with Lynsey Kane and Morag McHaffie (respective chairs of the two trustees and in the former case an HR professional) sitting on the interview panels for the recruitment, to ensure that applicants properly fitted the role of a CEO/GM at a fan-owned Club. Ultimately, however, the decision to select Levi as the preferred candidate was (rightly) for the Club Board. Fan owned, but not fan run. So, very simply, the Club is run by its Board and its General Manager, subject to certain decisions requiring the approval of its majority shareholder. Just like any other football club.

This thread has turned into the Jags' equivelant of switching on to watch Sportscene and finding the Harris/Trump debate.

Thistle midfield is in possession and moving forward (usually at quite a leisurely pace). Depending on the side of the field, the Thistle winger runs back (not forward) to around the half-way line, and waits for a pass from the midfielder. Of course a defender or midfielder of the other team has tracked him. Our midfielder passes to our winger, who can do f*** all with the ball because he's now standing still and somebody is right on him; almost no chance of getting past him. (So why did he come back to get himself in that position in the first place????). So, he passes it back to the midfielder (who now also has somebody on him) or else to one of our full-backs who has arrived on the scene. There then ensues a series of short triangular passes between these three Jags players which, if we somehow manage to retain the ball, does not move us one inch nearer to the opposition goal. At best, what we hope for is to keep possession by passing back (to a central defender, or even the goalie), or across the field to another player in space. By then, of course, the entire opposition is back in their own half, and so the player with the ball now has no real option because any Jags player in front of him (and a few will still be hanging around the half-way line) is just standing around, waiting for something to happen; there is little movement into spaces, inviting a fast through ball (rather than a punt).. Result: a speculative punt upfield or, even more frustratingly, more sideways passing. And as soon as an opposition player approaches, our player"s default reaction is to check back, and think about passing back to the keeper. It's frankly depressing to watch, as it's so predictable. Honestly, I don't remember McQuade, or Lawrie, or Houston thinking that they had to run back to the halfway line and stand still to receive a 3-yard pass, which is then usually followed by the passer running two yards toward him to receive a pass back again.... To do what? That's the question I find myself asking with every game these days..... and it goes back over maybe a 15- or even 20-year period. I watched the highlights of the auld f*lth game at the weekend, and grudgingly I've got to say that the pace and directness of the Porkheid bunch were really impressive to watch. Literally a league ahead of what we see every week. And in fact it got me thinking of the 3-2 game against the h* ns in 1971, where there was no such pedestrian nonsense going on. (Take a look too at the LC Final, none of this tight triangular passing on the half-way line stuff.) What happened, to make this an accepted change to the game? I could understand it if you're running down the clock, but we see this gunk right from the start of games. Acknowledgement: Thank you to some cheap imported wine from Chile.

The work you do is absolutely fantastic. You bring back so many memories whilst revealing all manner of new nuggets. MANY thanks for all the pleasure you bestow...

The majority of our support create a fantastic atmosphere and your against that. You really are a simpleton. I'm assuming you are back on here due to the government releasing some prisoners early. Too early alas....

Another enjoyable away game today. Great atmosphere and two teams giving it everything. Not one for the purist but on a tight slippery pitch on a wet and windy day, sometimes all you can do is clear your lines and I think that most of us who were there were generally happy to see Luke McBeth and others launch the ball up the pitch rather than play through the lines. Some of the comments here are rather more negative than my impression of the game. We made a very fast start and besieged Ayr for the first ten minutes. The next twenty minutes were our weakest and I appreciate that some of the more critical posts may have been made then. Ayr did then have a measure of control and of course got their goal. We were finding it hard to break out. However the last fifteen minutes of the first half were better and we were generally on the front foot for most of the second half. When we had to defend, O’Reilly and McBeth were resolute and made some excellent blocks. Roberts produced some great saves in both halves. He really is a find. Milne was as often the case our best outfield player. A real battler with lots of skill and of course our primary source of headed goals. Nilsson seemed to find the game too feisty for him. Graham did tire and I think Diack could have replaced him rather than playing alongside him. Fitzpatrick made a tremendous impact off the bench. Chalmers did well coming on too, though his end product was rather more mixed. Fans gave tremendous backing and the players responded to that. No idea about the alleged Graham incident but that would be totally at odds with the synergy between players and fans which was generally on display. In summary, you could not fault the players for effort. We were a bit lacking in skill and fluidity and I agree that this is not yet league winning form. But it was at least a step in the right direction and something to build on.

This result is unacceptable

something to sweep the finances under?

This is me speaking purely personally here. The Club Board's projections for fan revenues at the AGM in January were completely unrealistic. Their aspiration was for fan revenues (across TJF, Centenary Fund and other non-matchday sources) to be in the region of £380-400k in 2024-25 (according to the AGM slide pack). They based this partly on the proportion of fan revenues realised at some larger fan-owned clubs, like Hearts. When the Trustees saw those figures, we queried whether the assumed growth target on fan-based revenues was a realistic one, suggesting that it was much more likely that fan revenues would be in the region of £250k (a similar amount to 2023-24). We pointed out that the existing figures for 2023-24 were based partly on TJF bringing forward a significant one-off contribution of £50k in June 2023, and that had only been possible because of TJF member funds accumulated in the Club's financial year 2022-23. A large one-off payment wasn't likely to be repeated, albeit our members' pledge was likely to rise for 2024-25 from £10,000pm to £12,500pm if members approved it (which they did in June 2024). We didn't throw the toys out the pram about it publicly (though we did say in our post-AGM report in January that we felt the growth targets for 2024-25 and 2025-26 on commercial, hospitality and fan revenues were "ambitious" - which in hindsight may have been too subtle a euphemism for some readers). The Club Board, crucially, listened to our concerns and revised down their forecasts for fan revenue when pulling together their proposals for the 2024-25 budget. That £150k or so discrepancy explains a significant chunk of the difference between Football Club (which lost £170k last year) being able to reach a break-even budget and it not being able to do so. Revising down fan revenue forecasts meant a break-even budget would (a) take longer and (b) need to be more dependent on commercial and hospitality revenue growth and (if that doesn't materialise at the quantum needed) cuts to spending commitments. The fact that it will take longer means that, while the company is still loss-making, it will burn through more capital than was originally envisaged. That places greater pressure on cashflow than the original forecasts would have assumed, and means a bigger cashflow buffer (the so-called "margin of safety") is needed. And yet, I hasten to add, the Club Board maintains that any cashflow pressures can be managed in season 2024-25. That we (the Trustees) now get sight of the management accounts means we can monitor this regularly. We won't be shy in saying so if those assurances look to be ill-founded. Ideally, the forecast revision would have been communicated closer to the time of the setting of the Club Budget. TJF pressed for the disclosure piece to be developed and published in the early summer, but for a series of resourcing reasons on the Club side, it didn't materialise as soon as we'd have liked. This is ultimately a question of soft power versus raw power. Jim seems to think that the solution to every problem is to remove directors (that he doesn't like). Sometimes at Football Clubs, there is a place for that, if a particular individual or group of individuals are failing/disruptive and a clear alternative leadership group would do a better job without them. There are, however, other fans who contact us who express concerns about the high level of turnover in the Club's leadership team. That was one of the questions asked at the Q&A by a TJF member earlier in the week. So there is a balance to be struck between "flexing the muscles" as a majority shareholder and building a cooperative relationship that fosters trust and encourages skilled and talented people to join the Club Board. This is particularly important as we move towards a more skills-based recruitment approach under the Corporate Governance Manual that the Club Board has been tasked with delivering. We took the view earlier this year, with the budget scrutiny process just around the corner, that the more productive exertion of influence under fan-ownership (and the new CTA) would be to communicate our concerns about mistakes in the forecasts and ask for them to be revised. We achieved that outcome, and the resulting budget is therefore a much more meaningful one. We, as it were, "derisked" a key element of the budget, which the Club Board could more sensibly be held to in terms of delivery. Clearly if the Club Board were to repeatedly make material forecasting errors, or fail to respond to critical feedback in the budget scrutiny process, that would be a different scenario to be assessed at the time on its own merits. But I should say that, in the first ever budget scrutiny process, the Club Board was responsive to trustee questioning and feedback on (a) off-field revenue growth targets (b) footballing income assumptions and (c) cost controls.

My point is we were named "the best run Scottish Championship club" this week.

Here we go, thrill-seekers. The draw for the Men's First Round takes place on Sunday evening at 5:30. After that, it's over to you. So, get your HAHA pencils sharpened. It only feels like four months since the last one. I know a lot of people regretted not joining in last season so it's good to get going again. Seriously, it would be good to have more players this year. If you've never played before, don't worry about making a fool of yourself. You'll be in good company. Who knows, you might even VBJ it. Same rules as last season. Here is a timetable of fixtures over the next nine months. How to play Select the winning team in each Scottish Cup tie. Simples. Seeding For scoring purposes, teams are seeded as shown below MEN Premiership Championship League One League Two Highland League / Lowland League EoSFL / WoSFL / SoSFL / Others Unlicensed Clubs WOMEN SPFL 1 SPFL 2 Championship League One SWFL / Highlands & Islands League Scoring One point awarded for each correct prediction in the First Rounds. This increases by one point in each subsequent round. Therefore, predicting the winner in the Men's Final is worth 8 points; in the Women's Final, 7 points. If your chosen team beats a team with a higher seeding, additional points will be awarded commensurate with the difference in seeding level. Should the victory be away from home, one further point will be awarded. As an aid, the seeding points available in each tie will be shown in the published fixtures. Logistics The fixtures for each round will be published here shortly after each draw takes place. Post your entries on this thread. "H" for home win, "A" for away win. Post your entries before the deadline stated alongside each set of fixtures. Late entries are usually tolerated but it's very rude!. Should your entry arrive after any matches have kicked off, entries for those games will be void. League table will be published after the completion of each round.

If true, then presumably in response to some “fans” giving him abuse. If they don’t like the team selection then no point in taking it out on the player, especially one who always gives 100%. Graham gets dogs abuse from opposition fans ( a back handed compliment), disappointing if some of our own are doing so, especially a guy who has done and still does so much for the club. I can’t get excited about a draw at Ayr either, just hoping we can use it to turn a corner onto something better.

I'm only dipping in and out this thread but I think we initially thought we lost but it turn out we may have been dividing goals scored by goals conceded and forget to carry the two. Not sure who we have in the next round

The one thing that is better under this regime is attendances have went up. I will give them that. However I see many historical problems that remain, and to be fair again, some of this won't change overnight as it was inherited, but seeing what I do and reading the recent statements and Q&A feedback I just don't see any vision. Every penny coming into the club still seems to be about staving off debt and staying afloat in the short term. We are still losing money anyway. Have a stadium we cannot afford to maintain, no training ground. Begging fans to use Firhill; I remember the same chat 15 years ago. Despite being "fan owned", decisions made around investment are not being fully communicated with fans. Fans are being stretched way more than the propco days. Jagzone, TJF membership etc way more than the usual matchday tickets, merch etc which have obviously went up in price since. Mentality wise we are still very nepotistic (is that a word?). Largely staffed and run by fans off the field and run by ex players and "legends" on it. We still underachieve for the most part. I look at Kilmarnock winning games away from home in Europe and building a new training ground whilst we fall over ourselves to justify losses to league 2 teams at home, if we are not careful we will be looking the other way this season in what was a golden opportunity to win the league. For all the back slapping of how good fan ownership is we are still a Championship club. Ayr United were a part-time club with 1200 fans not that long ago but have made huge investments in their whole setup and they might well surpass us soon. I need to see more going forward to sell me than simply "we aren't Jacqui Low" that is now wearing thin. Do these people have the guts to sack a manager if needed? I am not sure the new GM knows what he has let himself in for and his ability to influence much I would say will be limited. He's there more or less to run the club day to day than to make key decisions about the overall direction. The well of "thistle minded" people has run dry on and off the field. We keep recruiting from within and we have an average team on the park and a weak infrastructure that bleeds cash off of it. You could have copy and pasted that in 2009. The more things change the more they stay the same.

As a pensioner myself it was nice to see some of the young team at the meeting. what. about getting them involved with the club organising events for the young team to get involved with. Learning how the club operates as probably they will eventually become involved with the club as they get older.

Surely it would be 5-2-3 as they go home at quarter past.

It would need to be much earlier to get to Zagreb 😊

Well, it's been a while since I've been on here but I see nothing much has changed! A ten page thread after Alloa match. Must be some interesting opinions!! I'll keep away from the other stuff but regarding match on Saturday, the start to the season, and 2024 in general - it's been nowhere near good enough with the squad of players we have available. I actually feel recruitment has been quite good. Starting with the two January signings, McBeth and O'Reilly, then players like McKay and Ashcroft who have performed well at this level, as well as Chalmers and Crawford - who excelled at their clubs in this division last season. Added to that, the goalkeeper looks better than anything we've had in recent years. My problems are, firstly, the manager is incapable of getting the team to play the way we need to. It's borderline negative football, pedestrian pace, predictable and downright boring to watch. How can the club attract more fans if it's so poor? Secondly, Dools doesn't have the balls to drop a very out of form Brian Graham or the lazy, unfit, overweight, Fitzpatrick. The two of them know every week that they are starting, and it's infuriating to watch. Saturday was a perfect opportunity to try something different but yet again the same players turned in less that average performances. They're not the only ones of course but the ones that remain in starting line up every week. I love Dools and I hope he turns it round, but I simply can't see it. If things don't pick up soon, the only reason I would want him to stay is to avoid the appointment of Brian Graham as manager. That is a disaster waiting to happen.

I don’t believe BBG as potential manager is the answer to our men’s first team form. Lets get behind Dools to turn our form around.

Could maybe be the case. But what happens if Doolan goes? Almost certainly Brian Graham will take temporary charge. Less certain but highly likely after a few results he'll be offered the gig full time. So is Graham one of those players who accepts Doolan's complacency? Or If he doesn't and thinks differently, then perhaps he's failing as team captain on a motivational basis? I doubt that and I'm guessing there's an element of Good Cop/Bad Cop on occasions in training. I'm increasingly thinking that whatever formation we play is really of secondary concern. The speed we move the ball (or rather the lack of) coupled with lack of movement off the ball are of greater concern. Those failings lead in turn to predictability of play, which is fairly self evident so far this season. A slow and deliberate 4-4-2 will be just as unsuccessful as a 4-2-3-1 or whatever played at yesterday's poor intensity.

Not a fan of Bannigan and not particularly wanting to have a go at him. However we are too slow to get rid of players when they are no longer performing. Bannigan was really done in 2016 but 8 years later he's still with us for what seems like no reason other than he's been with us too long to let go. The idea that Bannigan is classed as a 'legend' dilutes the achievements of proper players. Jamie Lyon has been tried for about the last 4 seasons and hasn't shown anything that says he's able to cope at this level but we keep him because he's been here for a long time. Williams has shown nothing that would make you believe he can make it at this level but he's still here because he's a nice guy. Stanway cost us the game a couple of weeks ago but he's straight back in the squad as soon as his suspension is up. Nothing form the manager to say what he did wasn't acceptable or any fine. Players need to see visible signs that there is a consequence to not performing. That means players leaving and the means players getting benched. We seen to have just recruited this summer rather than shed the dead wood and we seem to worry more about players feelings than results.

Always the lazy and cheap option. All this nonsense from TJF and The Board about increasing attendance through engagement. Load of crap. Good football and decent results get punters on seats.

Sorry but Doolan can go asap for me. Out his Depth, legend as a player but I’m afraid we are going backwards!

One of the greatest games of the 1990s wasn't exactly played at electric pace. https://posttopost.sport.blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/image-13.png

I'd been thinking of posting something about the large and growing numbers of young (and enthusiastic) supporters that we've been seeing in the past couple of seasons. It's great! Of course reaching the play-offs and some regular free-flowing, high-scoring performances help, but surely the "Kids Go Free" campaign has played a huge part. Retaining those youngsters when they get a bit older and they start work or higher education will be a challenge, as there are so many distractions out there, and of course many of them will probably move far away. Starting with the dreadful relegation season of 69-70 and for a few years later, there were sometimes 15-20 of us from Drumchapel who would go on to all away matches on the Whiteinch bus, and at least another dozen or so that I knew at school would go to home games but not away games. We had great fun travelling and joining the "choir" wherever we went to see the Jags. Then we all hit uni/college/apprenticeship age, and gradually the number of guys (there were even a few girls too) started to dwindle. (Stirling Uni being within being around 90 minutes from Firhill was a significant factor in what uni I chose to go to in the early 70s!) During my student years my attendance at Thistle matches became sporadic, and meeting any of the guys that we used to travel with became even more rare; in fact I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them have never set foot inside Firhill since those wonderful teen years. But as the saying goes, "Once a Jag always a Jag," and I know that some of the old Whiteinch bus crew have remained ardent supporters for their whole adult lives. I lost all touch with the Drumchapel guys, and actually have never seen any of them at a game since the 80s (unless we've all physically changed beyond recognition!). Right, I'll conclude: In terms of potential support (the old "sleeping giant" cliche and the like), I think Thistle is probably better placed at the moment than at any time in the past 40 years. Let's hope we can maximize that potential. I would like to acknowledge the contribution of the Kirin Brewing Company to this post.

My season ticket is there to support the club. Never understood why people get so precious about small discounts to encourage others to help our long term budget

Jim, there's a time and a place for these discussions. Straight after a very good Jags victory is certainly neither the time or the place for them. You constantly repeating/rehashing your theories ad nauseam across multiple threads doesn't help and is frankly irritating. As is, I regret to say, your poor grammar, punctuation and inappropriate use of capital letters. Please give us a rest.. At least for tonight so we can enjoy today's victory.

Fs. We won today. Can we drop this tedious thread for the weekend and enjoy a victory?

Second half was a good performance. Been a long time since we have had a goalkeeper willing to use the length and breadth of his box. Always wanting to come for crosses. Thought Bannigan had his best game in ages, and Lyon was positive, albeit still raw. Whatever knock kept Graham out last week seemed to still be bothering him. Just ghosted in and out of the match. Don't think he should be an automatic starter any more. Good attendance, great weather, and a brilliant result. Hopefully can kick on now.

Speaking as someone who renewed their season ticket as soon as they were on sale I can't say it bothers me - the more season ticket holders we have the better. I think there is the perception that this gives those buying a season ticket now some great advantage over someone who bought one prior to the Morton game when in fact it does not. If you bought a new adult season ticket prior to the first league game it would have cost you £330 so you are basically paying £18.33 per home game (18 games). Someone buying a new adult ticket tomorrow pays £310.20 which works out at £18.25 per game (17 games). Also they might have bought a ticket for the opening game so have paid £332.20 to see all 18 home games.

Your cash reserves were the £500K minus the residual debt of £220K from Season 22/23 = £280K they are now £75K ? Why ? you have £300K of non business turnover donations for this Season ( outwith the budget) but your asking for a further £500K in Tranche 2 or you may run out of cash ? £800K in additional funding outwith turnover -seriously thats complete insanity and TJF are going along with it ? WTF ? the money spent on Stadium Repairs was budgeted for - its not relevant the loss of the Youth funding was known at the end of last Season and was therefore budgeted for - its not relevant and broadly speaking revenues were up by at least £300K - even factoring in additional Youth Costs - we are still in the Black ? So where did the money go ? as for the Player Budget - lets get this correct - the Manager was sacked as he had a budget capable of Winning the League - yet the same budget is suddenly 5th largest in the League the following Season ? Both cant be true ( ignore the politics its about credibility of Club Statements) we are being treated like idiots We have serious issues on finances its as simple as that -and I state quite clearly we need changes at Boardroom level as for the Board Q&A it comes as no surprise that a major financial announcement is made the day before - limiting peoples ability to change plans to attend - Fans are not idiots - this is simply PR management - Im assuming TJF are ok with how its being handled - minimise any awkward questions etc ? if Jlo pulled a stunt like that the old TJF would have crucified her - its cynical and it speaks volumes as to the culture of power of those “ in the know” simply cynical no respect for your Fans on any level You go with Tranche 2 without serious Boardroom changes - there will be a Tranche 3 and a Tranche 4 There is no defence of this -No matter how hard you try as for no CAPEX allowance - TJF are the major shareholder - it should be a Red Flag that its not allowed for - why dont you ask why ?

I agree, but agree also that this is very much a minority view. I actually thought that we played well when we went down to ten and deservedly got back in the game and were a tad unlucky not to be able to hold on for the draw and I personally found it a decent day out. Of course getting beat again, hardly improves the disposition of the support or the morale of the team. Nonetheless, I believe that, without resorting to cliches that we can take a lot of positives from this encounter.

Leaving aside the disappointing result, it was an enjoyable football atmosphere, with 2 teams giving it everything and passionate support from the Thistle fans. At least we had the joy of celebrating a brilliant goal by the dogged ten men. I appreciate that this is difficult to convey to those who were not there and are naturally totally result focused. It is games like that which make you want to attend football matches (I contrast today with the insipid encounters with Morton and Raith). Having said all that, we really need to start winning. There is a fantastically committed and refreshingly youthful Thistle support, and it would be brilliant to have some victories to enjoy as we begin to climb the table. Thankfully, it is only Ayr and Falkirk who have substantially distanced themselves (the rest are all within 4 points of us). They are bound to have their struggles at some point in the season, so it is still all to play for.

Perhaps best to give him 10 minutes before writing him off.

I am not Nostradamus, but i predict the thread titled 'Who Is Running Partick Thistle ? ' will go on for a number of pages, with one contributor trying to say the same thing in a number of different ways.

oh ty will give wee watch later. Certainly 30min clip of goals is about 29mins longer than some of our previous signings would muster up on youtube.

Ah, but would that not be 10 Go To 4?

Got most of the game on a stream, Harry Milne .. as much as he has his flaws is an outstanding professional! Lucky to have the boy.

Just needs a catchy name like Aero Myles...

If you pick one of them correctly, do you get a Bo'ness point?

In hindsight, it was a better game than I witnessed at the time and the atmosphere was incredible at the end. watching it through gritted teeth and spitting blood at the unnecessary pain of buying a ticket online only to spend the first 20 minutes of the game outside in a car park didn’t set it up for an enjoyable afternoon. Watching an elderly fan with a walking stick being told by Mein Hosts that he has to climb a steep stair with no handrail to get to a seat when there was a a half empty stand in front of him didn’t bring my blood pressure down any. I can’t blame the shambles that is Falkirk Stadium for Stanways rush of blood but it made mine boil when the first action I witnessed turns out to be the fourth yellow card of a game that organisers allowed to start with half the visiting support unable to enter the ground. I went to Falkirk to support my frustrating and disappointing (so far) team only to have the whole day ruined by my own foul mood, entirely the result of incompetence, arrogance and a total disregard for fans by the host club. Falkirk are a shambles, ignorant, disrespectful and incapable of handling a crowd outside of the Highland League (with apologies to the Highland League). right, that’s that off my chest. Now on to Queens Park…

A bit early but given that this is our best chance of winning the league given the lack of a big spender having come down from the Premiership it is certainly not ideal. I always think the best time to make an evaluation is after the first quarter. If we are not moving up the table by that stage then decisions have to made.

The first rule of TJF. Don't say anything negative about TJF. It's the gulag for you.

Once you understand that in reality not all shareholders are equal… having 75% of the shares means you get more management attention than if you own 1%…. You can stop reading this thread.

I'd call that check mate.