Tom Hosie
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Christmas Eve 1977. Thistle 4, Ayr United 1 with Alex O'Hara scoring a hat trick.
Will be celebrating my 40th Thistle anniversary later this year. A mere novice compared to others but still a fair chunk of time. This team is the best I've seen but I'll qualify by saying that I was too young to appreciate the teams of my early years.
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I chatted with Robert on Facebook a few times, strangely enough never about Thistle, but I can't say that I really knew him. He was a familiar face though. In our Championship winning season he and his dad seemed to appear on the videos of every goal we scored in front stand of the North Stand that season. For that reason alone he will forever form part of the backdrop to that wonderful season.
One of the things I love about Thistle is that we are a big enough club to carry a reasonable support but still small and tight knit enough for their to be a sense of family. We often don't know people away from Firhill but we share a bond with them all the same and we note their absence when we don't see them at games. It's dreadfully sad when we lose one of our Thistle family and I send much love to Robert's family and friends at this time. As is clear from this thread he will be much missed.
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The Hamilton manager that day was a certain J Lambie.
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ICT have Billy McKay back on loan from Wigan hope we can get someone in to help get some goals also.. press conference at 1:15 according to Graeme McGarry on twitter
That may well just be the standard press conference the day before a game and won't provide any great update.
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I don't think anyone is in fear of Formartine and, of course, a professional approach to the game should see us through with the minimum of fuss.
That said it's probably worth pointing out that they are no mugs and certainly not the 'pub team' some seem to think they are. They took care of Annan in much the same fashion that Annan took care of Hamilton last season. They've got a fair sprinkling of experience in their squad and are fourth in the Highland League.
They strike me as being a better side than the Culter team that took us to a replay and Cove who we beat 2-1,albeit playing with 10 men for well over half the game, the next season, .
The professional approach I mention means fielding our strongest team, not experimenting with players in unfamiliar positions and not fielding Development squad players simply because we think the opposition are poor.
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When thinking of a potential fee you have to consider how much, Leeds, or anyone else wants him.
Do they want him to walk into their first team or do they see him as potential and worth a punt in a cheap market,
If the former then great especially if others are interested. If the latter then nobody is likely to pay too much or get involved in a bidding war.
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Heard that on the radio. Coming from the same crowd that are re-introducing a winter break. Remind me once again, what is the principal reasoning behind having a winter break?
It's the winter break that will be giving the SPFL fear.
No games for a month in the Premiership and if they are postponements either side of the break there is a danger of fixture congestion. Hence the need to reschedule the celtic came for December 20th. Of course there should have been no need at all for that game to have been re-arranged from it's original August date.
Simple thing is if there is advice not to travel then a fixture should be postponed. It's a football match nothing worth risking life or limb for. You could argue that fans don't need to travel but the players and coaching staff do. They face the same weather and driving conditions as everyone else.
No matter what I won't be in Dingwall tomorrow but if the game goes ahead then massive respect to every Thistle fan that travels, hopefully safely and without incident, to the game.
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The development of the young players was something that Archie touched on at the Q&A thing last night.
He commented on how there is a big jump from the 20s to the first team. His preference is for the young players to go out on loan so their progress can be monitored playing against men, as opposed to their peers, week in week out. For some reason they couldn't get these players out on loan.
He touched too on the lad Nesbitt we picked up on loan from Celtic last seasonwas. He signed him not expecting him to be able to play week in week out but because he wanted cover in place in case Lawless went to Dundee United which looked a distinct possibility at the time. He pointed out again the jump between under 20s football and first team football. Playing with Celtic's 20s Nesbitt saw a lot of the ball and didn't have to do much defending. That was part of his game that needed to develop and in part accounted for the penalty he gave away at Motherwell.
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All of them? McCall was long gone by the time McNamara built the squad that won the league. McCall brought a few of them in but only once did we ever come close to challenging for promotion under his tenure.
Of the team that featured in the squad against Falkirk when we clinched the title McCall had brought the following players to the club:
Fox
Balatoni
Bannigan
Erskine
Doolan
I think he deserves some credit although the lion's share obviously goes elsewhere, in particular Archie.
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Not even a record for us.
Eight different keepers, including an outfield player, in 7 games in season 87/88 between October 17th and November 11th.
Prize of a sherbet dab for anyone sad enough to be able to name all 8.
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BBC Scotland are saying Archie's going to speak to the media today so I guess he's made up his mind one way or another.
Would he not being doing that anyway as part of the media build up to Saturday?
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Was gutted when McCall left, gutted when McNamara left and will be gutted if Archie leaves, however we will regroup and get on with it as per when the other two managers left. Still hope he decides against the move though!!
The club were 'lucky' (they still had to make the appointments after all) when McCall left that in McNamara they had a senior pro to step into the role and when he left they had Archie, senior pro and on the coaching staff, there to step in.
That isn't the case now. Assuming Shaggy were to go with him it would need to be an outside appointment unless they went with Scott McKenzie even as a caretaker. A managerial appointment is always a gamble but more so when there is no obvious candidate and when the price of getting it wrong is potentially very severe.
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I don't think anyone is saying it is a right, certainly I'm not, It should though be our next target for progression
Progression gets harder and harder as we are finding out this season, a season in which our efforts aren't being helped any by a lengthy, and potentially lengthening, injury list.
I desperately hope that Archie remains as our manager but we perhaps need to take a step back and take as dispassionate look at our Club as we can and try to view it from an ambitious young manager's perspective.
We are enjoying our longest unbroken run in the top flight since the 1990s and prior to that the late 70s and early 80s. For a whole generation of Thistle fans this has been as good as it has been. Yet the turnout of Thistle fans at home games remains around the 2,500 mark. With tight budget controls the manager's job is always going to be to not finish lower than 10th. Okay we might finish top 6 on occasion or even win a trophy - St Johnstone are the yardstick in that respect - but at this level we are a small club and chances are at some stage the manager won't manage to finish no lower than 10th. Chances are we will at some stage be relegated. Even if that doesn't happen where does he go in Scotland to progress his career. Hearts? Aberdeen? Finish 3rd or 4th rather than 9th or 10th?
If relegation follows then there's not going to be a queue to poach a relegated manager. If he leaves now Archie would leave a highly successful manager despite what any flat earth believer might tell you. He would be going to a presently struggling club granted but Burton Albion are in the Championship and I don't see why similar couldn't be a long term ambition for Shrewsbury. He might not achieve that but if he is successful there then he wouldn't be short of suitors in bigger English clubs. If he is offered the post it seems a no brainer to me to accept it.
Which would leave us scrambling about to find a new manager when there is no obvious candidate inside or outside the club. Troubling times.
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This is Thistle, why all the moans. Every year its the same old tired Thistle, no skill, no flair, no style. Is it any wonder we struggle to reach the 2000 mark at home. If you weren't a season ticket holder you wouldn't go, Why? because nothing ever changes. We haven't survived in the top league by playing good football, no, its because all the other teams below us are even worse. In the old days you would hear the something like " his second touch is a tackle" for Azeez that's simply not true because the boy doesn't even have a first touch. Pogba??????, The boy is only on the pitch as the comedy relief, the big cuddly carthorse that everybody loves, unfortunately its football he is supposed to be playing, not giving us all a laugh, Pogba for Nesbit, dear me. The big bonner got it spot on, unless there are other teams without ambition out there, its going to be yet another long drawn out season. Mon the... awe F#@kit.
Isn't that how league tables work?
You know the best team finishes top and those that are worse than them finish below them.
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Two up for identification here (three, if you include the far away goalie):
Joe Carson, Paddy Kelly and John Brough.
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Anyway, while you're honouring us with your presence Sir Tom, what's happening with this long overdue Partick Thistle Historian publication? And whit aboot part 2 of thon Thistle in Crisis story? Treat them mean, keep them keen is it?
Since retiring from the Thistle programme I've been filling a gap in my education by studying for a degree with the Open University. That is pretty much taking up my spare time. Only another 4 years to go with that so may revisit the whole project then.
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You’re the statto. You have almost 6,500 Thistle games to assimilate into streaks, tallies and milestones. I’ve made it easy for you by listing the 40 odd tournaments in the opening post. Exactly how would you dice them up? Remember – this is a statistical exercise, where precision is all, no vagaries please. Your solution needs to be logical, and you should serve up no contradictions within your policy decision…
All matches played before the start of the official scheduled start of the season (SFL, SFA, SPL, SPFL, etc sanctioned competition), irrespective of whether a trophy is on offer or not, should be considered as friendly matches?
Answering my own question, that wouldn't really work as before the introduction of league matches it would be impossible to determine the official start of the season and only cup matches would count as competitive matches and not the multitude of 'friendly' matches that filled the majority of the fixture lists in the late 19th century.
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was a reserve game lost 1-0 to Stenhousemuir.
Yeah Robert's left Firhill the following few days, Erskine was on trial may have been his Jags debut.
I believe it was this game.
http://ptfc.co.uk/news/2008-2009/january_2009/partick_thistle_reserves_0_stenhousemuir_reserves_1
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Ahh. jd. He was one of those players you rarely see playing for us. What ability!! He loved to entertain.
Like Higgy. And Chris Erskine. God save those types of player especially if they play for us.
Can't remember where it all went wrong for him. Did he join Killie?
He went to Dunfermline after us. That season while playing for Thistle against Dunfermline he scored an own goal. Later the same season while playing for Dunfermline against us he again scored an own goal.
He ended up eventually at Vale of Clyde Juniors and last I was aware he was doing some youth coaching in the east end of Glasgow. That was about 10 years ago though. I interviewed him for Thistle programme around that time.
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John Donnelly, Brendan McIntyre and Gordon Smith?
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Apparently any club that travels outside their country will get £4000 as a help.
Berwick hoping for lots of away draws then? £4k to nip over to Edinburgh to play Edinburgh City.
I jest of course.
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Was so saddened to learn of Ricky's passing this morning.
There's many, many people associated with Thistle that knew Ricky much better than I did. People who had the pleasure of working with him on a daily basis.
He was, however, alongside the much missed Chico a near constant during my time with the Club. He was the heart and soul of the place. It's hard to find words to adequately describe just how much he will be missed.
It will be hard not seeing him at the game tonight.
I take comfort from knowing that he's now reunited with his wife and, of course, Chico. The double act is back together.
RIP
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I just noticed the "similar topics" thread at the bottom. That has a very different tone, I must say.
Wish I hadn't read that. Very depressing.
It does show though how if you repeat a lie long enough it becomes the accepted 'truth'.
That thread was just 4 years ago, albeit before the Hillsborough Independent Panel reported their findings, and yet the line about hooliganism was still being peddled.
Imagine losing a loved one in that disaster and listening to that lie for 27 years.
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I think you need to remember that at the start of the 2012/2013 season he was still just 19.
Hardly unexpected that a player still in his teens hadn't had too much of an extended run in the team prior to that especially since he had an extended period on loan at Ayr United.
Both McCall and McNamara rated him very highly. Never any chance of him being freed.
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Stranraer 29/7/17
in Main Jags forum
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3-1. Des McKeown scored one of his very rare goals in that game. We were playing Ayr in the quarter-final of the Scottish Cup on the following Saturday and Lambie fielded a rather strange side including the aforementioned Blom.
I can remember that game but not more than half of last season's game. Figure that out if you can.