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5 hours ago, Bobbyhouston said:
Simple yes or no
I wish it were that simple. We'll have a summer and early autumn of brave words about boycotts. Some of us will do it and some of us won't. Given the shite we've seen from Thistle over the past three years, I suspect that if the Jags get back to living up to our highest hopes on the pitch, then boycotts won't matter at all.
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3 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
All joking aside, but how would we truly survive with no real income for a season
That problem is a stinking pile of dooh-dooh that should be trucked to Hampden before the day is out.
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40 minutes ago, eljaggo said:
Any voting system is better than the Old Firm Veto system operating now.
Bang on.
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15 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said:
There are not too many teams, just not enough fans.
Not enough fans for what?
Too many teams is really a bit of a straw man. The trouble (certainly for clubs like Thistle) lies in the way resources are divided.
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You missed the point of my post, Jaggo. You say there's a 'fundamental truth' that there are too many football teams in Scotland.
Why are there too many?
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13 minutes ago, eljaggo said:
All of the bluster and scheming by clubs to pursue self interest in league structures is simply pissing into the wind.
The fundamental truth is that there are too many clubs for the Scottish fanbase. The economic fallout from Covid19 and then Brexit, will severely hamper Scottish businessmens' ability to prop up clubs, and so it is likely that whatever league structure is chosen, there will be casualties in the next few years.
Thistle seem to be better financed than most clubs, and could weather the storm more easily than most.
If the vote goes against us tomorrow, the Club should hunker down, avoid legal battles and costs, discourage fans from attending away games and let other clubs go to the wall.
Play the long game.
Name them please.
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9 hours ago, exiledjag said:
As reconstruction still appears to have a life and I accept this is very negative but is the following a possible outcome:
1. 14 team SPL - so Hearts saved and ICT promoted as well (with Dundee Utd)
2. 10 team leagues in Championship and Leagues 1 & 2 with relegation to go ahead as normal - so Partick & Stranraer relegated (and Raith, Falkirk & East Fife promoted to Championship)
3. Brora & Kelty promoted to blance the numbers
I just feel that we are not the SPFL's (in particular McLennan's) favourite club at the moment. Though the above outcome would result in more unnecessary ffiction/headlines as it would represent blatent victimisation and surely result in legal action.
I often wonder why it is that when league reconstruction comes around, the team that's had a turd of a season and came in dead fecking last is thrown a lifeline over a team in the league below that has put in a challenge at the top. With Hearts, I guess there are ... considerations beyond sport.
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Hmm, surely there's no way a potential SPFL benefactor with Hearts connections who is offering a £5 lifeline to the leagues could have persuaded Scottish football's Machiavellian prince to try again? Or is that 'at all'? Nah.
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18 hours ago, Auld Jag said:
Although we have been expelled/relegated to div 1, who knows how many leagues there will be and which one we will be playing in when we eventually start playing again. Gordon Strachan very scathing when talking about part time teams in Scotland.
Job with the Tayside Administration Regulars. Glass houses and stones come to mind
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On 5/24/2020 at 11:22 AM, lady-isobel-barnett said:
Mothballing the lower leagues sums up Scottish Football nicely. Your Div One club gets to vote on relegating a club that possibly could start the season playing behind closed doors. Instead that club finds itself in a league that can't even start their fixtures never mind fulfil them.
Part of me would not be surprised if the chancers who run the game thought they could cut League 1 and League 2 teams adrift. There would be a hell of a stushie, but I think these characters would stop at nothing to 'unburden' themselves from diluting the piss-poor prize pot they'll be crowing about when football 're-starts'.
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5 hours ago, javeajag said:
A small country with. 5.5m population we can just about support two leagues with total club numbers of between 24 and 32
On what calculation is this based, Javeajag?
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1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:
More or less in agreement. There's a clear dividing line between full time and part time clubs or more correctly those clubs that have been traditionally full time and those part time over the last few decades. The first two tiers should be of such a size to accommodate all those full time clubs plus a few traditionally part time clubs. 28 clubs seems round about the correct cut off. National/Regional leagues one tier (or perhaps at two tiers) below that. Not dissimilar to the English model if you compare their League One with our premiership.
I'm not suggesting for one minute that a full time club can't be relegated to the third tier. Simply they'd have to be the 27th or 28th poorest team that season to end up there. Conversely a handful of well run part time clubs could easily survive in the 2nd tier.
It's funny, when the 'too many teams' klaxon goes off the spotlight falls on the smallest and the poorest teams as the problem when the elephant in the room might be the top flight. Just sayin'.
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Even flattening the bing would be a start. The freed up space could be used for training, storage.... At present it's useless (and ugly) except for being a talking point.
The club tried that in 2006 - and it backfired.
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Landscaped pyramids like they have at the ... what's it called? Ah yes, the Pyramids business park near Bathgate.
With red and yellow sheep to match?
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There's some good ideas in this thread, definitely.
But we need to remember that the club don't own this land, which could be a barrier towards doing anything.
The summer would definitely be a good time to get things moving on the bing.
The club has a half interest in propco. If I recall, there are more people sitting on Thistle's board with shares in propco than there are people with Thistle shares sitting on Thistle's board.
Thistle shareholders were treated to the spectacle of their directors throwing tantrums about questions over that relationship last year.
I'm quite sure the club and propco could 'talk to each other' about improving the bing, Ian. Hopefully, they'll also improve the catering and foul toilets in time for next season, too.
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No pish drawn by weans please.
Said the good people of Auvers-sur-Oise.
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Sounds like a job for Onethistle.
Prettying the bing is a nice idea, but the land has been industrial for a long time. The idea of an allotment would be quirky and Thistle, but I'm not sure I'd like my spuds with added metals.
Flooers would also be nice, just make sure they're hardier than the scubland shrubs that already grow their.
Perhaps the simplest solution is to paint the big with a sponsor's logo.
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there's a few Jags
There are. Sadly, just a few.
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Showpark seems like a no no for me, great for pubs & public transport, but very poor access for cars & buses unless they created a car park & new access road somehow
I needs renovated, but for facilities to get people to the games and for aftermatch it's a shoo-in. If Showpark can accommodate It's A Knockout I'm sure it'll accommodate Clyde.
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I wonder what the odds are on our first game of next season being against Dundee United - those odds being Thistle odds, not bookies' odds.
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totally disagree with no points for a 0-0 draw, sometimes games just work out that way, thats's football. Did us & Raith deserve 0 points from our recent games?
Why not two points each for a draw? The no points for no goals scenario means teams have to work harder. (In theory.) I can't argue with your point that there have been excellent no-score draws, but I've watched Thistle play stellar football and lose.
Points for goals.
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= same as a defeat?
-1 point for losing away from home; -2 points for losing at home.......
This could improve people's arithmetic more than any government-sponsored educational initiatives.
Yip! No goals, no reward.
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I don't really get this. East Kilbride FC (who play at K-Park where we played some reserve games this season) have applied to join the South of Scotland league with aspirations to go senior, so unless they are involved with Clyde I would imagine they would object to them moving here. I also don't get how Clyde think they can somehow get locals behind them in EK when they failed in Cumbernauld
Another good point - fanbase building. EK is, to the best of my experience, almost full of Old Firm sheep.
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This local definitely is not. Only the Promotion Bus.
Peel Park near Jackton/Hairmyres is another option, but I think Tesco have that land.
Jeez, really? Nothing other than Showpark makes any sort of sense. To me. The Calderglen site for 'East Kilbride FC' is in what was - and probably still is - the back of beyond in my childhood. I have no idea where they'd build around Peel Park or Jackton for public transport.
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Yeah, but apart from that small detail?