eljaggo
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If some posters here are right (and I sincerely hope they're not) and there is a breakdown in the relationship between the PTFC Trust and TJF, then maybe its time for TJF to start playing hardball.
The Trust have the shares, but TJF have a substantial income that will probably rise after this episode as more fans sign up. That income is crucial to the running of the Club.
If the Board want TJF's income they should get it, but only on receipt of the equivalent value in ordinary voting shares.
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I was among those calling for a change in management but only after taking time to find someone who offered better prospects. But Like almost everyone else, I am completely stunned by the timing of this.
What concerns me are first of all why the TJF was not involved or at least given prior warning. Second, given the frankly bizarre timing and nature of the decision, how can we be confident in the Board's ability to make a sensible choice for the next manager.
Although Doolan has been appointed on a short term basis with no fixed duration, it would not surprise me if the Board took the easy option of making the appointment permanent in the belief that an ex-Jag as manager would appease many fans, and deflect anger if things went badly.
I wonder how Gerry Brittan is feeling this morning.
This whole affair stinks, and unless we are careful could permanently damage the relationship that has been built up between PTFC Trust and TJF.
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The Club could recruit and start a manager before they let McCall go, so they would not need an interim manager. Please - no-ex-jags!
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I've no idea what McCall's contract looks like, but if it is a 12 month rolling one as has been suggested, then it might mean that (a) he can be paid on a monthly basis for that period, and (b) there might be a clause that if he finds a new job within the 12 months the payments are reduced or ended.
If the Board decides on a change of manager, TJF montly income could possibly be used to fund that if other claims on it are deemed to be less important. TJF may find that if it is understood by fans that their income is being used in that way, membership might increase.
The good news is that we don't have to rush into appointing a new manager, and we have until the end of the season to choose one. As I have said already, I would prefer a complete outsider to Scottish football, and avoid ex-Jags and the other Scottish managers that circulate between Scottish clubs.
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McCall and his 2 assistants offer no prospects for promotion, this season or next. They have had ample time to prove their worth, but have failed.
There is no urgent need to find a new manager (we are unlikely to be relegated), and so the Board should start looking around, take their time, and find someone who is (a) not an ex Thistle player, and (b) someone outside Scotland who can offer something different to the tired old regulars who operate in Scotland. Reducing the management team from the current 3 plus the new, regular income from TJF will help.
I have been reluctant (like many I suspect) to call for a change, but enough is enough.
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Why are we so keen to hire ex Jags players as managers?
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TJF now need to do some serious thinking about the best way to spend their substantial monthly income, and discuss their views with the Board if they have not already done so.
I find the lack of transfer activity a bit surprising, especially given the extensive injury list, and the availability of TJF funds. Perhaps though, the Club's finances are weak, and may need TJF support at current player numbers.
The Club does seem to lack a clear sense of direction at the moment - perhaps not surprising given recent boardroom changes. A statement from the Board would be welcome.
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Has anyone else not received TJF email mentioned above?
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Yes you can. You must have a short memory. They were the placemen of Jacqui Low, were gifted the shares, and broght nothing from the Trust as was. Why I can remember the old days when TJF were gagging to own PTFC shares. They even asked Low for them, and being refused pledged to play the long gme.
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That income DD is the Club's income, not the Trust's.
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19 hours ago, jagfox said:
I would assume the TJF member on the board and the other appointees influenced this decision.
I was thinking more along the lines of a transfer of shares to TJF to the value of TJF's contributions to the Club. But perhaps that's too radical for some.
We have the money and income they have shares but neither money nor income.
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I was thinking about influence LLD, not satisfaction!
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Hope there is something in return for TJF for their contribution.
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Can't see how the Dunfermline game itself will affect Club finances significantly, but a win and a favourable draw for the next round could!
My concern is that the Board decide to avoid risk, and sell players in the January window. Not sure about who would be marketable (apart from Milne).
I presume TJF have been talking to the Board about how they could help avoid the need to sell players or fund the wages of new players.
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Why wasn't Milne playing?
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Irrespective of any financial implications, I cannot see the Board changing the manager now. First of all, I suspect the Board will seek some stability after the last few months. Second, there is no time to appoint someone and take advantage of the transfer window.
The team's results are volatile, with very few draws, and who knows what might happen in January and February. If the team is mid-table come mid/end Febrary and safe from relegation, then the Board might review the situation.
As I posted above, financial constraints could be overcome if change is sought.
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If cash is short, and the Board decides to change the management, then they could possibly borrow against the savings of going to a smaller management team. Three managers is ridiculous for a club of our size.
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What happened to the edit facilty?
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I cannot get through to the match, and was hoping it will be be on the tele.
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First game back at Firhill since the pandemic. What a stotter! We could have scored another 2 or 3 goals before the break, but the commitment from all the players was outstanding. Two fantastic Ayr goals. Unfair to single out players for praise, but cannot argue with MOTM choice.
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The video shows Milne scoring - I'm really confused about why Graham was credited and why he seems to claim it.
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Weather forecast I have is that there will be snow overnight and up until mid-day on Saturday plus freezing temperatures. Better get that brush looked out!
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If we lose, the Board goes!
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McCall Sacked
in Main Jags forum
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The Board's statement is not explicit that the three will be leaving the Club: It only mentions "first team duties." I'm sure that is just careless wording, but it just re-inforces the impression that the whole affair was very badly handled, and that confidence in the Board has been severely dented.