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  1. I haven't seen anybody mention this but will the administrator drop Harkins & Grifiths to save Dundee's biggest assets from being injured and becoming worthless? now that the 30 point deduction is in place (appeal pending of course)?

  2. Melville, the owner of Dens Park, will determine the future of Dundee and I doubt that he will let the club go into liquidation. He is the main private creditor and has already lodged £200k with the club's lawyers to fund the administration process. By going into administration, the club can avoid paying the other creditors and redundancy payments.

     

     

    Melville will probably form a new company to take over the club. He could sell shares to the fans and others who have pledged money. However, the BBC estimated his fortune at £120 million last year. He can also borrow against the value of Dens Park to raise cash for working capital for the rest of the season. He could then sell Dens Park and do a deal with United to share Tannadice.

     

    His new company will also not have the burden of paying off Chisholm, Dodds and the unwanted players. A new manager and a bunch of free agents can be brought in. There are plenty of players with experience at our level, especially in England and Europe, who are looking for even a short-term deal. Even with a 10 point deduBection, Dundee would only be 4 points behind Morton and 5 points behind us with three quarters of the season to go. They get crowds of around 4,500 - enough to pay for a decent squad when free of current debts.

     

    Put your dancing shoes away. The Jags have seven figure debts, half a stadium, an ageing squad on low wages, crowds of less than 3,000 and no sugar Daddy to bail us out. Laughing at Dundee now is easy but, in reality, we are actually worse off.

     

     

    Melville dosen't own Dens Park it's John Bennett

  3. National idenitiy is celebrated in a positive manner by the same people that seem to have strong objections to James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady celebrating theirs. The traitors.

     

     

    Surly it's not celebrating their (Scottish) national identity but choosing to represents their grandparents (Irish identity), that sticks in peoples throat. I always thought both players had been born in Scotland (as had their parents).

  4. Clubs from one country can get permission to play in another I believe if

     

    1, There is no-professional league in the country (in the case of Wales, for many years)

    2, They are situated on the boarder (in the case of Berwick Rangers)

     

    Gretna (and I think Annan Athletic), played in the English league's

     

    Can name a few clubs who cross border

    FC Vduz

    Toronto

    FC Andorra

     

    and I might be wrong but in the 1970's Wigan Athletic applied to join the Scottish League.

     

    No chance of the old-firm getting permission to move unless every other team in Scotland went amateur or part-time.

  5. Apologies if this has been done before or is common knowledge amongst board members.

     

    I'm looking for any information which details Ken bates involment with Partick Thistle in the mid 80's.

     

    Can anybody tell me if this period is detailed in any books, club programs or newspaper articles?

     

    In addition if any board members have memories of his time at the club I'd be interested to hear them.

     

     

    I'm sure it was reported in the mid-late 1980's that current board member Tom Hughes was in discussions with Bates about buying his shareholding or investing in PTFC.

  6. Former Jags assistant manager John Hagart died yesterday aged 72. John was assistant to Derek Johnstone between July 1986 & March 1987, he was also caretaker manager for a month when Johnstone was sacked. He was more well known for managing Hearts & Falkirk, he was also assistant to Ally McLeod during the ill-fated trip to Argentina in 1978.

  7. I don't see much wrong in sourcing a few Juniors providing the fellow doing the sourcing is up to scratch. After all that was at one time where many a Jags legend came directly from. The Hansens, Joe Craig countless others from around their era and more recently Dinnie & Archibald all came from there.

     

     

    John Hansen never played junior and his brother played only one game for Sauchie Jnrs before singing for us.

     

    Archibald joined our feeder side Possilpark YMCA in 1995 from Rangers SABC. A loan spell (or farmed out) to a junior didin't do him any harm, like Stephen Docherty or Jerry Stirling from that era.

  8. He also brought some players to the club that have moved on to a very high level or played for their countries - namely Dorrans, Andy Wilkinson and Jonny Tuffey. I like McCall but in general his loan signings are a lost worse than DC's were

     

    Wilkinson was a Whyte/Britton signing.

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