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Shameless jump on the band wagon. Looking to fill gaps in my collection.
Can anyone tell me if there were programmes issued for these games? Programme numbers before and after the the Nov 85 Celtic and Meadowbank games suggest there were but unsure of the others - especially as some were cup replays at a few days' notice.
Thanks.
Shrewsbury Town 01-Aug-84
Manchester City 04-Aug-84
Clyde 08-May-85
Rangers 13-May-85
Celtic 19-Nov-85
Airdrie 03-Feb-86
Dumbarton 19-Mar-86
Celtic 04-Aug-86
Morton 10-Feb-87
Celtic 10-Mar-87
Clyde 06-Apr-88
Meadowbank 06-Nov-90
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Sad news.
Can still remember how gutted I was when I heard he had been transferred. Had no idea at that tender age that Thistle were a selling club!
In 158 appearances for Thistle, he scored at least 4 own goals ...
24 Aug 1960 v Rangers
7 Jan 1961 v Motherwell
16 Sep 1962 v Third Lanark
4 Mar 1963 v Arbroath (a flashing header!)
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In August 87 at a friendly at Stenhousemuir I found myself leaning on the boundry fence blethering to none other than Jackie Husband. He told me that he had been fed up with the approach DJ took as manager and had tried to give him some advice. He said he never made the transition from player to manager and acted as "one of the lads". He told me that they had met up later and that DJ admitted that he should have taken Jackie's advice.
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No. They had 1 home win in 2011-12 (beat Aberdeen 3-0 in April).
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Since the founding of the Scottish League (1890-91) only 3 teams have completed a season in the top flight with no home wins:-
Vale of Leven
1891-92
Finished bottom and were not re-elected.
Morton
1901-02
Finished bottom but were saved by increase from 10 to 12 clubs the following season.
Raith Rovers
1962-63
Finished bottom and relegated.
Hoping we don't make this trio a quartet. Anyone fancy the second leg of the play-off at home still looking for a first win?
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I seem to remember Ian Cameron missing a penalty in the game. Or maybe he scored. Or perhaps the whole thing is a figment of my imagination.
Here's my list - which may be incomplete.
1888-89 06-Oct THIRD LANARK A 2 1 GLWC <> 1894-95 01-Dec ABERCORN H 4 4 SFL2 Void match. Reason n/k. 1898-99 19-Nov HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN H 2 4 SFL1 Hearts turned up 20 mins late. Darkness 1901-02 28-Dec CLYDE H 1 0 SFL2 Failing light. 1901-02 22-Mar HAMILTON ACADEMICAL A 2 1 SFL2 n/k 1903-04 07-Nov MOTHERWELL H 3 2 SFL1 Fog/failing light 70 mins. 1903-04 26-Dec DUNDEE H 2 1 SFL1 Dense fog, 63 mins. 1903-04 13-Feb AIRDRIEONIANS A 1 1 SFL1 Waterlogged pitch, 82 mins. 1904-05 26-Nov MOTHERWELL A 1 1 SFL1 Late arrival of PTFC. Failing light. 70 mins. 1904-05 11-Mar MOTHERWELL A 2 2 SFL1 Storm. Pitch unplayable. 70 mins. 1905-06 11-Nov ST MIRREN A 1 3 SFL1 Fog, 85 mins. 1906-07 09-Mar HAMILTON ACADEMICAL A 1 2 SFL1 Snow, 70 mins. 1909-10 04-Dec HAMILTON ACADEMICAL H 0 0 SFL1 n/k 1919-20 15-Nov DUMBARTON A 1 1 SFL1 Late arrival of PTFC/darkness/fog 70 mins. 1948-49 23-Aug CELTIC A 1 1 GLWC1 Rain, 69 mins. 1982-83 23-Feb CLYDE A 1 1 SC Floodlight failure, 113 mins. 1992-93 21-Nov ABERDEEN H 0 2 PREMDIV Snow. 1994-95 04-Mar HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN H 0 0 PREMDIV Snow, 56 mins. 1995-96 09-Apr ABERDEEN H 0 0 PREMDIV Floodlight failure, 39 mins. 2012-13 26-Feb COWDENBEATH A 1 2 SFL1 Fog, 68 mins. 2013-14 14-Dec ST JOHNSTONE H 0 0 SPFLP Waterlogged pitch, 45 mins. <> With Thistle leading 2-1 Third Lanark thought they had equalised. Thistle players insisted the shot had gone over the bar. The referee dismissed the appeal after a long delay and the ball was centred. Arguments broke out and some Thistle players walked off but others seemed content to carry on. (Some supporters encouraged them to do so.) The referee abandoned the game. Fights broke out amongst the crowd as they gathered in front of the pavilion. Wiser counsel prevailed and nothing more serious then cheers and counter-cheers occurred. A replay was ordered by the SFA and the match was played on 10 November 1888. Third Lanark won 2-1.
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Can I ask where you were able to source the data for those most excellent statistics?
I can recall the following 5 involving us:
- 1983 Clyde away in SC replay when match was abandoned at 2-2 in extra time when a power cut took out most of area around Shawfield and with it the flood lights. No power meant no tannoy either. The rescheduled game went very, very well.
- Mid-90s Aberdeen at home in league which as others have said was abandoned due to heavy snow after about 65 mins at 0-2. The ref at time said he would have abandoned it sooner had Aberdeen not scored just before half time. Pretty sure it was full price for the rescheduled game. The score was very, very bad.
- Mid-90s Hearts at home in league due to failure of our floodlights which were fairly new at the time. I have a very strong memory of vouchers being handed out. However, no recollection of price charged or score in either game (without looking). Think they may have been draws.
- 2013 Cowdenbeath away in league due to fog at 1-2 after 70 odd mins. The only one of this 5 there could be any dispute around the abandonment in the sense it wasn't much worse at end than it was at start. That said, it never should have started. Don't recall vouchers or reduced prices but they were cheaper to start with. Plus the score worked out.
- 2014 St Johnstone at home in league, due to rain. Abandoned at half time with score at 0-0. Still not sure why it even started.
They are part of research I'm doing as a pastime.
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Agreed Duncan but the PT History Archive lists the keeper as Niven. It also lists McLindon (who isn't in the photo). I can't find any independent press report to verify. On balance however (my memories of Broomfield are hazy) I'd say the photo has the enclosure in the background so I'll go along with McFedris. Cheers.
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The abandoned St Johnstone game was only the 21st abandoned match in over 6,100 first team games (0.3%). 10 were at home, 11 away.
Failing light/Fog 8
n/k 3
Waterlogged 4
Storm 1
Snow 3
Floodlight failure 2
There have only been 8 abandoned matches in the last 100 years - 4 at home, 4 away.
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Jim Gray was fair haired , met him before he passed away in South Africa
Agreed.
As in my earlier post I think this is Jim Gray. McFedris only played 2 league games for the 1st team and neither game included all of the players in the photo.
Process of elimination leads me to Thistle v Falkirk on 30th April 1966. (Won 3-0). The photo doesn't immediately look like Firhill but the camera is at a strange angle. This is the only game Gray ever played with the remaining 10 players in the photo.
Gray
Campbell Muir
Cunningham McKinnon Gibb
Gallagher McParland Flanagan Roxburgh Duncan
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Jim Gray.
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I'm sure I heard somewhere that in the rush to merge the SPL and the SFL, they forgot to include the rules about over-age players. That's why you can play them this season. I don't think the former SPL U-20 league allowed over-age players - hence the debate about the pros and cons of having a reserve league.
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The highest percentage being home wins would mean that winning at home is the most common result.
Can't argue with that! Was just trying to point out that home wins are not as common as might be expected. Less than half.
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Frustrating though it is, winning at home is not that common. There have been 40 games in the premiership so far this season. Only 17 (43%) were home wins. 14 (35%) were away wins. 9 were draws. Last weekend every match was an away win.
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Just back from the football exhibition in the Kelvingrove Museum and Art Galleries. Well worth a visit.
Was interested to see a display case with a kiddie's hand-knitted football jersey and socks to match dating from around 1900 - in bold red, yellow and black horizontal stripes. The display notes explain that football strips were generally drab but that they gradually became more colourful early in the 20th century.
This wee wean pre-dated our change to red and yellow hoops by 30+ years.
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direct quote from DB courtesy Glaswegian
edited to add.... no mention of gnomes.
While they're at it, it might be a good idea if someone (Thistle? The cooncil?) could do something about the water that's been coming up through the pavement at the main door and running down Firhill Road for (it seems) years, creating brown stains right down the street past the main stand. I hope it's only rust!
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I also don't see the the British Cup Winners Cup which we beat Spurs 3-1 at Firhill In 1921. This cup was for the winners of the Scottish Cup against the winners of the FA cup. Or am I wrong about this?
Correct. A one-off game between the two cup winners.
Date: 19 sept 1921.
Scorers: Wilson, Blair and Kinloch.
Att: 14,000.
Team: Campbell, Struthers, Bulloch, Johnstone, Wilson, Harris, Blair, Kinloch, Robertson, McMenemy, Salisbury.
Robertson at centre-forward made his one and only appearance for the club.
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Just looking at the contents of the "package". Anyone else think that access to match highlights is going to be by subscription for non-TAGites next season or am I reading too much into this?
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Agreed.
6 October 1963 started a run of 9 consecutive wins in the league. These were followed by a defeat to Celtic in the Glasgow cup but then another league game was won. If you're only counting league games in the same season, that's 10 in a row.
14 May 1982 to 28 Sept 1982 was indeed 8 consecutive league wins but there were 2 League Cup wins (both to Meadowbank) in that sequence as well.
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... that we won 8 consecutive competitive (league) games in a row?
To what few naysayers are left, start believing.
Most probably October - December 1904-05.............................
Hearts H 2-1
Dundee A 1-0
Morton A 1-0
Motherwell H 1-0
Port Glasgow Athletic H 3-0
Queen's Park A 4-1
Third Lanark H 3-2
Kilmarnock H 2-0
(Drew the next one 2-2 then lost 4 in a row!)
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SFL website says there is a pitch inspection at 10.30.
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"a controlled container" means any bottle, can or other portable container, whether open or sealed, which is, or was, in its original manufactured state, capable of containing liquid and is made from such material or is of such construction, or is so adapted, that if it were thrown at or propelled against a person it would be capable of causing some injury to that person;
So, at every match that a cup is presented, the SFA, SFL and SPL are in breach of the act!
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Is it meant to say only 3 teams who were top on Christmas Day didn't win the league.
Yes. Sorry, got that round the wrong way!
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In the last 18 seasons only 3 teams that were not top of the First Division on Christmas day have failed to go on and finish first.
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Agreed. My confirmation said so as well BUT...
I've changed my seat. Does the fact that my existing card now has the wrong seat number make any difference electronically? I don't know whether to expect a new ticket or not. 3 phone calls and 45 minutes later I finally got the system to co-operate - with the help of the office staff.
Also, I become a concession before the season starts. The most bizarre part of this sorry experience was that the system would have charged me the full whack (my birthday is after the date of renewal) had the office staff not found a way round this. No criticism of PT implied. It's the ticket company that need to get a grip. Why are these things not thoroughly tested before they go live?