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eljaggo, your point will be covered in the PTFC Trust update that will be on the website tomorrow. This was to go up on Monday but it is the club's website & they have comms plans, which are fluid considering it is during the transfer window. I believe Pauline has been very responsive to all of your queries recently & it is great that you are taking such an interest in the Trust.
JJ, what are you asking for, is that not what the Jags Trust has? I don't think I have ever been a member so I am not criticising the Jags Trust at all but I would imagine they have their own written constitution, they've held elections in the past, yet they have little credibility or influence with the supporters (based on widespread opinion) or the club (based on little interaction taking place between the 2, as far as I am aware). End of the day, that mechanism for fan engagement has failed & maybe it's time to try a new approach.
Please come & chat to the Trustees at a home/away game, or at the next open meeting with supporters, or my seat is HH110. I am happy to answer questions on this forum but more in depth debates I would rather not have over a keyboard, the Trustees are making every effort to be visible to supporters. Disappointingly, we have only had 1 person approach us at Firhill over the past 2 games.
That offer is open to anyone & I am sure the rest of the supporters trustees feel the same way.
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23 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
The Thistle website?
Yes, club have advised the PTFC Trust update will now be posted on Wednesday.
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1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said:
Just to keep you updated. One week since e-mail sent but no response received so I won't be able to provide any info on this subject. Hopefully the update from the PTFC Trust after their meeting with the Board will provide some detail.
Should be on the website tomorrow.
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4 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:
We're led to believe funds will be available this month to strengthen the squad. I'm guessing with the ins and outs so far we've eaten well into those funds. Are we any stronger?
Do you think? I would imagine we would be about breaking even, may be well off the mark but on the face of it I don't think we'll be much worse off. Again guessing, but you'd imagine Scobbie & Erskine would be on decent wages.
Out: Quitongo, Storer, Jefferies, Scobbie, Erskine.
In: Roy, Saunders, Mansell, Harkins, Hazard, Cardle, Bannigan.
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On 1/15/2019 at 9:45 PM, erty13 said:
A few questions.
How do you gather feedback from the fans to discuss the big issues.
What areas are you going to raise and what questions are you looking for answers to.
We raise the questions & topics raised to us by the fans. We are also all supporters so have our own thoughts, some of which will match the questions raised by supporters & some will be different.
Supporters set the agenda for the conversations that take place.
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Timeline on this, although we meet with the board tomorrow, formal minutes should be received by the end of the week & we will work to get these on the Thistle website/Trust fb page asap. So over the weekend or Monday at the latest, assuming the timelines stated hold up, which they have to date.
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The PTFC Trust has several formal ways to be contacted; the email address mentioned above, Facebook & Twitter (both @ptfctrust). These are the communication channels that are actively monitored & fed back to the club at meetings.
This forum, although useful & used by myself off & on for many years, is not linked to the PTFC Trust in any way & is not the best place to contact the Trustees.
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1 hour ago, eljaggo said:
Trustees, and therefore fans seeking election to the Trust, must have been a season ticket holder for the past three seasons. The link to the Trust's page by 1Jlambie above states that but also mentions a constitution, which they seem a bit coy about publishing. They don't seem to be a registered charity according the Scottish Charities listings.
May have been lost during the conversation but posting the Trust Deed on the website has been raised to the Club & should be visible in the coming weeks.
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1 hour ago, KemoAvdiu said:
Would it be possible to answer my question from earlier in the thread? Appreciate there’s a stall but not everybody can make it there pre match and good to have these questions answered publicly I think.
The topic of a supporters rep has been mentioned previously & is one that will be raised again in the very near future, the results of these conversations will of course be fed back to supporters. In my opinion, the Trust needs to build credibility with supporters before this will happen & this is something the Trustees are trying to do but this does require feedback & buy-in from the wider fanbase. As I said previously, it has to be the ultimate goal of the Trust.
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The Supporters Trustees of the PTFC Trust will have a pop up stall in the concourse of the Jackie Husband Stand tomorrow from 2pm.
This will be repeated in the John Lambie Stand/Aitken Suite over the upcoming weeks.
Please pop by before the game!
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On 1/6/2019 at 6:58 PM, KemoAvdiu said:
It’s good to get this information as it’s something that I wasn’t aware of (maybe a reflection on me not noticing rather than anything else!).
From your responses I’m presuming you’re one of the trustees. If so, thanks for putting yourself forward and apologies if any of the posts on here seem critical towards yourself and your fellow trustees. That’s certainly not what any of my posts have intended.
While you’re here, could you let us know the explanation from the club as to why the Trust doesn’t have a place on the club board? From my perspective it would be hugely beneficial for the club board, not to mention for the credibility and empowerment of the Trust. Has this issue been raised with the club at all and what was the response?
In regards to a fans seat on the board, this has to be the ultimate goal & it would make sense for this to come from the PTFC Trust in some way over time.
It is great to see posts about the Trust on here & fans taking an interest in how it is run, how it could be improved & what should be its goals over x period of time. I can only encourage those that have posted and those that have read posts here to engage further with the Trust through Facebook/Twitter (@ptfctrust) or by emailing [email protected] & I would say most importantly by attending the open meetings held quarterly which will be advertised via website/social media/matchday programme. It is the supporters that need to drive the agenda, I really believe this is the best opportunity the supporters have had in a long time to engage with the Club through the vehicle afforded to us by the generosity of the Weirs.
5 hours ago, Norgethistle said:And for fans (Older generation) who don’t use social media do you have a webpage, or page on the Clubs website ?
Yes:
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There is no 'election' to become a Co-Opted Trustee, standard practice I would suggest. An election did recently take place, where all season ticket holders who met the voting criteria as set out in the Trust Deed, were invited to vote & made aware of the vote via post/email. The results of this were published in Saturdays matchday programme.
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13 hours ago, jagfox said:
They were looking for someone else to be voted on but I’ve heard nothing since. For a body meant to be communicating between the fans and the club I have to say I’m not impressed.
Details were published in a recent matchday programme & on the PTFC Trust Facebook /Twitter pages.
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16 hours ago, Garscube Road End said:
If we go down, which is likely, I would wager that it doesn't get off the ground, or if it does, we won't be using it. We will be back at Ruchill Park
Given building work is supposed to be well underway before the end of the season (operational by July), it will be clear well before the league season ends what the state of play is.
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10 hours ago, KemoAvdiu said:
The role of the Trust really does have to be examined and questioned. I have posted on this before, and to repeat I don’t mean any of this as criticism of the volunteers running the Trust, but it is entirely invisible and seems wholly designed to act as a patsy to the board. I think I’m right in saying both the Chief Exec and the Chairman sit on the Trust board (plus maybe one other Director?). For a fans’ Trust this is not credible.
If the Weirs’ involvement in the club is predicated upon certain individuals being involved in the club and/or a non-credible Trust holding shares then that really isn’t a sustainable involvement.
The PTFC Trust has 3 Club Trustees & 5 Supporters Trustees, this will rise to 6 by the end of the Jan.
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With the players we currently have:
..............................Sneddon
Elliott.....Saunders.....McGinty.....Penrice
............Spittal.....Slater.....Bannigan
Erskine...............Doolan..............Storey
Although Storey isn't in great form I think we'll need his pace away from home, without him in we're really short on pace up top. 4 at the back, with midfield better protecting the back 4 is better than 5 at the back I'd say.
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1 hour ago, allyo said:
Paton and Muirhead were two of our best players in promotion season. And Abdul a key player in the Premier. They all seem to have lost their way a bit, or just aged, but I wouldn't write them off as useless.
Also signed Paul Dixon who should still be a decent LB at this level with his experience.
Falkirk are the worst team in this league quite clearly, they've been awful, but they have a capable manager who is making signings that will definitely improve them. I do not expect them to finish bottom of the league after they are finished changing their squad.
This is no way a reflection on Thistle, just an observation of Falkirk who will improve. We have to more than match their recruitment.
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2 hours ago, Norgethistle said:
Goodwin has a secure well paid full time job away from football hence why Alloa (part time) suits him, plus Alloa are better than us why take a step down
We will finish above Alloa, as we should.
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9 minutes ago, javeajag said:
This looks like a classic lambic type signing ....so who knows could be inspired or a waste of time ....we will know in January
This, if he can lose a bit of weight & get fitter then I think he should be a good signing for us. The rest of the squad looks fitter with Caldwell so if Harkins wants it to go well I don't see any reason why he can't get a bit fitter & be an asset, even if that is as a squad player. As I said previously, I see him as a step up from Storer which is what you're looking for, replace players with better ones.
I would imagine we only wanted to give him 6 months but sometimes you might need to push the boat out if you think it's required & worth it, time will tell. I don't think we would struggle to move him on to another club if we wanted to move him on at the end of the season, he's talented enough that a club will always be willing to take him on.
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4 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said:
Ýet. He gets a free transfer?
He asked to leave.... I see this as a replacement for Storer so on that basis it's an improvement in a few ways (he'll play more, should contribute more & should be decent around the Club).
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I would be happy to let Bell go, who you'd imagine would be a bigger earner, going forward proceed with Sneddon/Lennox.
I would expect Jefferies & Gordon's loans to end & Quitongo to leave (largely due to his off field trouble, otherwise he would be worth another 6 months).
Bell/Keown/Mutombo/Ntambwe free to leave if they can get a club to take their contract, which could be troublesome. Given Storer & Melbourne have already left, this could easily mean a total of 7-9 leave.
Coming in? I would take Harkins til the end of the season , same with Scobbie. Beyond that, dependent on departures, I'd say we need; CB, LB/RB, 2 CMs, Winger(s), 2 ST.
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1 hour ago, KemoAvdiu said:
I was at the meet the manager night and don’t remember anything about the requested funds being released in full etc. Apologies if I missed that, but if I didn’t it begs a number of questions:
- Why is that information being made public by the fans trust rather than the club itself?
- Why is that information being made public AT ALL (whether through this statement or, if I missed it on the night, at the meet the manager event)? All it does is alert every agent and club in Scotland and across the UK to the fact we have money to spend.
As covered by FT, the update & the minutes from the meeting are 2 separate things altogether.
Also as covered by FT, where possible, the PTFC Trust Trustees will meet with the PTFC Board after Board meetings & the details discussed at this point are then shared with supporters shortly after.
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How does money raised through easyfundraising make its way to the club? I see it is set up as WeAreThistle on the site.
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49 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:
Probably won't happen like that, Sandy. Like anyone else Quitongo is innocent until proved guilty. No real knowledge of legal matters but most trials appear to occur some months after a charge. His trial then is likely to take place after his contract runs out.
I suspect the Club will not offer Quitongo a contract extension based entirely on footballing reasons.
Gerry Britton confirmed that contracts had been offered to Quitongo & Bannigan at the recent MTM night, which they were considering. I would assume that offer would now be withdrawn & Quitongo would leave the club when his contract expires in January.
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There has been no contact to the PTFC Trust from any party.