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14 minutes ago, laukat said:
Its the key question in all this. Why and why now?
Why? I presume they want it marked as completed and a winner declared for 2 main reasons. First of all to prevent any sponsor or TV company for wanting their money back and secondly to say to UEFA that Scottish results stand so we expect our second champions league spot.
Why now? I suspect its partly to try and force UEFA's hand but mainly to declare final positions before a club goes into administration, gets hit by a points deduction that would effect their final league position and ultimatley their particpation in european competition.
The SPFL don't care about anyone else other than the old firm and the tv deal. Celtic aren't in financial trouble and will be in the champions league no matter what. The TV deal hinges on 4 games between the ugly sisters so the only logical conclusion is its something to do with Sevco
They could well go into administration which would mean a 15 point deduction which still leaves them 5 points ahead of Motherwell for 2nd place but probably unable to take up a european place due to financial fair play. They would be unlikely to get out of administration without champions league football so it puts the TV deal at risk. If Uefa started poking about financial fair play in regards to Sevco and how they've managed to meet these it could open up a can of worms.
Sevco might declare in public that this is terrible to appease their fans but in private they'll be all for this. Stewart Robertson from Sevco sits on the SPFL board so how on earth does this proposal get through there without him not being ok with it?
Ludicrous. It's all about Celtic. Rangers do not want them to be crowned champions, that is their motive.
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5 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:
But are Celtic that desperate to get a title which will always have an asterisk against it, especially as they would be odds on to get the 9 in a row whenever football resumes.
Absolutely they are!
Can you hear Celtic and their masses (oops) shouting from the rooftops NOT to get the title?
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Just now, Emsca said:
Whicc is what I keep coming back to. Why were the SPFL so desperate to get the Leagues wound up?j
So Celtic can be crowned champions.
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Very good statement. Well done the Board.
If anything, the time it would take to sort out a legal challenge might force the SPFL to seek a fair route out of this.
If they truly care about Scottish football, they should.
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1 hour ago, jaf said:
There's also another rumour going round about his motivations in all of this.
The one from the CelticStar that the ICT chairman is getting a job at Rangers? Yep, sounds very trustworthy...
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52 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
From what I’ve heard the Rangers response with the evidence will be presented from a unified front of multiple clubs, this now appears to be a (growing) group who are going to out Doncaster and his puppet master
I really want this to be the case, so hope your sources are correct.
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2 minutes ago, JAGSMAN1968 said:
So, is that why sevco are so upset?
Maybe, but Milne and I think the ex-Hamilton chairman said Lawell has too much influence. if this is proof, then not surprised Rangers would go for him.
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32 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:
Thing is Peter Lawwell left in July 19
And you don't think he still calls the shots?!
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Surely after this afternoon's revelations, Dundee cannot "change their mind" That would only prove there have been more than dodgy dealings. That should mean bye bye to Neil and Peter.
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20 hours ago, laukat said:
I don't see the SFA and SPL making a decision anytime soon for a couple of reasons.
First of all the SFA and SPL don't like making any decisions, they would rather UEFA told them what to do then they could blame it on them. Failing that they want the EPL to make a move so they can hide behind that.
Second of all its all about Sevco.
Sevco must be running out of cash and one of the most likely to go into administration . If Sevco go into administration before the end of the season and occur an automatic points penalty then they can award the title to Celtic as they can't be mathematically caught. Also the SFA ust know Sevco finances aren't great so if they end the season now they would have to state to UEFA that Sevco will be one Scotland's representatives in european competitions and would they be comfortable doing that when they must suspect Sevco are close to the edge? So the SFA and SPL plan will be to wait and see what happens to Sevco because that only leaves a question about if you relegate teams or not. As that doesn't involve either cheek then it'll be an easier decision for the autorities to make. If Sevco survive in their current guise until the end of the season I could see null and void being the order of the day.
The footballing authorities have past history for making up the rules if required so rules won't be an issue this time.
Sevco? Wrong erse-cheek. It's Celtic they are frightened of. But , tbf, they are on a lose-lose whatever decision they make, if they have to make one.
Gone are the days when the SFA or SPFL were run by masons.
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4 hours ago, Deco City Jag said:
Looking at buying a tile from overseas but billing details won't accept my postcode, any ideas on how to overcome this?
Worked for me. Postcode in Germany is a 5 number system and that was accepted.
Would be better just to publish basic bank details with IBAN etc for overseas fans.
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That's a tile bought. Seemed to be the easiest way from abroad to give cash.
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10 hours ago, Norgethistle said:
Whilst I’ve publicly stated that whilst a certain element is involved with the club I’m out, exceptional circumstances cause me to revisit that, if the survival of the club is at risk, as without someone on the board who could fund us through a cash flow crisis (Oliver, Allan, Springfield for example), it’s now dumped on us.
I’m more than happy to buy a ST or individual match day tickets till this goes by.
I would join the CF but this is impossible for a Nomad (something that has been raised with the club several times) as you cannot set up a Direct Debit from a foreign bank account, a monthly card payment (like Jagszone) would get round this.
I tried too. If the club asked for donations I would contribute. There would be no shame if they were to ask.
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55 minutes ago, banderas said:
i thought the same thing surely that cant be a consideration!!! Thursdays game revenue and Sundays game revenue may help the residents of Govan's sporting facility. Their current cash flow finances look very vulnerable and if started today it would put them into an extremely vulnerable position. Who represents Govan in the Scottish Parliament ?
I am sure that Rangers fans would laugh in your face if you suggested the SNP were were looking out for them...
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45 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:
Don't care if they abandon the season at the highest levels: UEFA 2020, UEFA Champions League, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 could all take the economic hit, and it will be a major hit if it happens.
Clubs at our level though - closed doors and no cashflow means death by the end of the originally projected season. We do do not have the reserves to take a hit until the beginning of next season.
Even Sevco (and this is a serious point on that midden for once) would struggle badly without the cashflow from home games - they need that short-term inflow of cash to keep them afloat.
Football (and concerts) has been way overpriced for too long - closed doors may bring some reality back.
Unlikely season ticket holders could get a refund. If the club asked for donations to help out, I would donate. Appreciate not everyone could though...
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You guys are probably 10 days behind us. Games here now behind closed doors. That’s all well and good. Problem is when players or staff get infected. Games simply can’t take place.
High likelihood leagues will be declared null and void. We escape relegation, DABs have another year in the championship and best of all a TIMPLOSION!!!
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12 minutes ago, Gary Peebles Tackle said:
Yep, totally agree with that. It can create a better atmosphere having segregation, but can also fuel trouble. If my pal was a Celtic fan & we wanted to sit next to each other on Saturday, where would the issue be in that? You pays your money...
I thankfully do not have that conundrum!
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Not actively giving them a section as I thought the OP was saying.
However, it should be pretty obvious who is a Jag and who is one of them. A quick breathe in through the nose is sufficient.
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Where are you getting this info from?
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Makes abundant sense. Last times we have played them we have had fewer than 2,000 spread over two stands. Understandable having to listen to all that plasticy-irishy crap and IRA bile.
I'll take a wee bit extra cash off them.
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1 hour ago, jags on tour said:
I know Christie has announced he is leaving but I don’t see anything on the clubs Twitter or the website, you would think they would post saying Christie hasn’t accepted the deal and we thank him for the last 7 years. I wonder if they have spat the dummy and aren’t going to even acknowledge he has left.
You mean something like this:
https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/christie-elliott-set-to-leave-the-club/
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Good servant over the years, but the (few) times I have seen him this season he has made terrible defensive mistakes.
Thanks for your time Christie, but I think we can do better.
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Then: Billy McNeill
Now: Scott Brown
State of the game nowadays...
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10 mins highlights on Alloa's YouTube channel worth watching as well.
What if they shut down the season?
in Main Jags forum
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I think Celtic fear UEFA will null and void the seasons across Europe. Suspicion is Celtic want this rushed through to ensure they are crowned before UEFA make that decision.