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Thanks BB. Good to have something to do this afternoon!!!
H, A, H, A, A, A, A, A, H, H, A, A, H, H,A, H, H, H, H, H
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12 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:
Waste of money.
Oh the excitement of that summer that we signed Quitongo and O'Ware - seems a distant memory now!
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Hi all
The purpose of the initial calls was to make sure any recurring messages were captured in the wider consultation, to make that as useful as possible.
We do not expect to engage with everyone through a series of calls with 6 people a time!
There will be a final round of these calls next week, and after that a wider consultation will be launched to a wider audience by a different medium than Zoom call.
As I have said before, feel free to PM me on here and I am very happy to have you included on those calls. If not, you should have greater substance available to you soon for you to consider.
Sandy
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7 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said:
We did beat them. December 19, 2-1 at Palmerston. & we had to play them there again. Both clubs with no league wins in 20. But they had played a game more than us, & had Dundee Utd & Dundee to play. We can only guess what would have happened, but we did seem to have a less taxing run in.
My point was that to complain about non qualification from the Betfred Cup didn't take our enforced lowly position into account, a bias McCall opponents don't seem to recognise.
That’s true but if we assume we would have got to 9th, would we have win the play off. Using past regulate as a guide as you have done, I think the answer would be no. The evidence? 1. Our previous playoff capitulation. 2. Our defeat to raith in the tunnocks cup. 3. We hadn’t won a league game in 2020. That included failing to beat Alloa, Arbroath and an out of form ayr, as well as queen of south and inconsistent Dunfermline.
I agree with so little that GRE says but I do think there is a complete lack of reality about what the likely outcome to last season would have been by many. The circumstantial evidence against is considerable!
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Hi all
I am putting my head above the parapet here.
Myself and one other WG member are facilitating these Zoom calls. These will shortly be replaced by something designed to reach a wider audience more quickly.
We have really welcomed the feedback that we have received on these calls to date, which goes far beyond what is mentioned in the programme. The programme works to a very early deadline, and another WG member has responsibility for that and so updates from those sessions have not all filtered through yet.
The next calls are likely to be next week (with invites to go out shortly), and if anyone wishes to be included, I would be very happy to add you to the invite list. (PM me on here or send the WG email address an email). All are genuinely welcome - and I can promise carbon neutrality, not for profit, and board diversity are unlikely to be mentioned unless they are a burning issue for you!
I know there is a scepticism about all of this for many reasons but this is a genuine reaching out to attempt to share the plans of substance with you, and I hope you can engage with it. The point of the consultation is to get the input of you all. Some of us are seriously passionate about that. Finally, I am sure there are many many more enjoyable ways to find that 15 mins of fame, AFK, I can assure you!
Sandy
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4 minutes ago, Auld Jag said:
Sorry to disagree lib. I feel if we are serious about getting out of this league first time of asking, we need to win our home games.With us losing our first 2 away games this also puts pressure on us getting 3 points at home. Also if we are serious about promotion this season our away form has to improve and improve quickly. All of these factors even more important in that if we do complete the season there is only 27 games, also it is not unreasonable to think the season could end even sooner than the 27 game season that is planned. We need to get points on the board sooner rather than later. If the last 3 seasons has taught us nothing else, it has taught us that a poor/slow start is very costly.
I agree
Furthermore, after a slow start to the season, if we win on Saturday and we consider our main opposition for the league to be Falkirk, that puts us only one point behind them
Lose, and we are already 7 points behind them, and perhaps more behind Cove
I know there is a long way to go but Saturday looks important already for determining our aspirations for season
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13 hours ago, Auld Jag said:
For me the rot setting in started 3 years ago. After we meekly lost to Kilmarnock at Firhill when they had their youth coach in charge, Archibald should have been sacked. It continued when we hired Caldwell. I never wanted him as our manager, not because of who he played for, but because of his managerial record. Apart from Wigan giving him loads to spend to win the EFL 1 title he was a serial loser as a manager. When we hired McCall i thought at last we had someone in who could steady the club. After a good start, it has been downhill since. After 2 transfer windows McCall has only managed 1 league win all calendar year. I don't think he will be sacked, can we really afford to sack 3 managers in just over 2 years. In November we have 3 league games 2 at Firhill, Falkirk and East Fife, 1 at Montrose. 9Points from these 3 games would be great and hopefully see us starting to look the promotion favourites we are meant to be, less than 7 points and it is another season of struggles.
Trust Thistle to turn a supposedly short season into another 'long season', but less than the 7 points you mention above AJ, and it almost certainly will be.
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43 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:
He may have got us to play off because Queen of the south were so bad but I now think we would have been beaten in the play off
That's what I thought all along would have been the outcome had the season been played out.
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9 minutes ago, Jag36 said:
Fair point but he's obviously part of that so maybe could help implement something similar at firhill
Agreed; chair, manager, community organisation all aligned.
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9 minutes ago, Jag36 said:
Theres been plenty of time since Caldwell to turn things around. They've been financially backed by the board and we're even worse off than last season. We needed to build a new team starting with a keeper and central defence which have been a problem for years but we're going backwards from what I can see. Darren Young East Fife maybe- something to give a bit of drive and life back to the club
East Fife have a fantastic youth/community setup. Five star - its about more than the manager.
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Thanks to Beth for taking time on her Friday night to get me sorted. Super commitment from club staff to do that.
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Couldn't look at this until now as have been incredibly busy and couldn't escape work to do the test.
Anyway, despite having three season tickets we haven't yet found a way to logon.
I'm tired - will look again later but patience is pretty thin already!
Feel a clown not being able to use this but given the thread above seems I am far from alone. Disappointed if I cant get this sorted before kickoff.
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I am not pro or anti McCall. I do think he was the popular appointment at the time, and I also think like LIB above, to call for his head after one league game is OTT.
However, I do think there is a problem, and we may all be unwitting contributors to it.
This squad was built not for this division, but the majority for the division above. Was it unfair the way we were relegated? Absolutely yes. However, when football stopped what was my expectation for the rest of the season? If I am honest, it probably was for us to finish 9th and lose the play off.
The unfair narrative has allowed the abject failure of the team last season to be forgiven, or forgotten. If people are constantly told they don't deserve to be where they are, and they have been unfairly treated they may perhaps begin to have it filter into their psyche that they are better than they are. If they think they are big time charlies they will fail in this league, against hungry honest wholehearted part timers. History tells us this.
It mystifies me that Sena and Lyons were two of the best players in this league last season but they seem to be bit part players for us, shut out by serial losers.
Finally, just because you can use more substitutes does not mean you should do so, without good reason. I see this really disrupting second half performances.
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10 hours ago, javeajag said:
Interesting and Norway did even better than both with a gdp decline of 5.3%......the U.K. of course was beaten by Peru into second last place at minus 21%.....
How come 7 months is not sufficient enough period to assess some statistics (per your good self) but it is sufficient period to assess economic statistics? (the economic argument in this tweet is also flawed btw in my opinion)
I think that we will only be able to assess the outcomes (economic and social) at the end of all of this.
Although, I do completely agree that the evidence to date on the wreckage of the UK economy is compelling, I probably disagree with you as to the root causes of that.
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I should add that I have been to England three times on business in last three weeks -Cumbria, stoke and Worcester. And today I fly to London.
Whilst the stats don’t lie I feel no less safe there than here and have seen no great difference in how people are behaving.
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13 hours ago, javeajag said:
These Islands is a ‘unionist ‘ group with an anti snp agenda and are clearly not objective
I understand you want to show their is no difference for political reasons but in reality there is
There’s no politics about it (from me at least)
I made a comment. You said it was wrong. Provide the evidence you said. I now have. regardless of the politics of the source, which facts have they distorted then?q
the problem - as is often the case with you - is you don’t read what people actually post You answer a different point and then defend your position belligerently
let me be clear. I am not saying England and Scotland are similar. I am saying countries are not really directly comparable because there are many other factors to consider. The comparison between Scotland and south west England supports that theory.
you (presumably for political reasons) want to suggest Scotland has done amazingly well. As has been discussed before the care home sector would probably disagree and as nerve has pointed out not in comparison to some other small nations. That said, I discount that for three reasons, firstly I understand The point about lack of comparability (which you don’t seem to accept) , secondly We are in unprecedented situation and to suggest any of us would have done much better and not made the missteps some politicians have made would entirely be with the benefit of hindsight and unfair regardless of their political hue imo, and finally it’s pretty unedifying time make political capital out of death statistics. That is after all someone’s granny, someone’s son, someone’s mate they go to the football with. So you can keep up the happy clappy politics of this if you wish, but don’t assume that’s wat drives the motivations of others.
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23 minutes ago, javeajag said:
And your ‘understanding’ would be wrong ....
Not sure which is wrong - this article with its detailed analysis and graphs, or your usual half-read knee jerk assertion....
You will recall my original point (which you claim is wrong) is that if you compare Scotland to areas of England thought to have similar population density there is not much difference
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16 minutes ago, javeajag said:
And your ‘understanding’ would be wrong ....
the rolling daily death figure of seven days in England is 56.....in Scotland its 0/1....adjusting for population Scotland should be c 8/9 which is a long way from 56 ......population density can’t make that up.....England has the worst excess death figure in Europe
Or you could be wrong?
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16 minutes ago, javeajag said:
And your ‘understanding’ would be wrong ....
the rolling daily death figure of seven days in England is 56.....in Scotland its 0/1....adjusting for population Scotland should be c 8/9 which is a long way from 56 ......population density can’t make that up.....England has the worst excess death figure in Europe
What is it in south west England?
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6 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said:
The discrepancy here (as I understand it) is that the 28 day rule applies only to the *daily* death count being reported in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, but that the overall figures, which use weekly data, still count all new registered deaths where it is mentioned on the death certificate.
The report you link to says:
“Of the total number of deaths registered in week 31 (27 July to 2 August), there were 7 where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, a decrease of 1 from the previous week (20 to 26 July), but the weekly total has remained similar over the latest three weeks.”
It then also shows a graph where total registered deaths increased from 4,174 (as at 5 July) to 4,208 (as at 2 August), so an increase of 34 deaths.
If England were seeing the same sort of levels of death, their figure for that four week period would be about 420 deaths.
As javeajag alludes to, it’s about five times that. The figure of 9 for Scotland was a bit misleading but its undoubtedly the case England is doing a lot worse on death than Scotland at the moment.
This all seems correct. But of course takes no account of either demographics, not population density.
I understand that if you factor population density into the equation the death rate in Scotland is very similar to The most comparable areas of England.
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I convince myself we will get no more than a slap on wrist. And then convince myself the other way.
This has been a circus (not really of our making) and they willl want to ensure Scottish football is not put into a big top ever again. That said I am sure there will be a recognition of the inherent unfairness of this.
Some of the ongoing statements Don’t even suggest acceptance now after arbitration which does worry me.
All in all though I think the sfa want an easy life The quickest way to bring this whole thing to a close is to not be overly harsh on the two clubs. That’s why I am going for a ticking off only or very very small fine. -
1 hour ago, Auld Jag said:
ICT voted against ending the season, even though their finances was in a terrible state.
Because they were banking on reconstruction meaning promotion for them? Hence their disproportionate rage in all of this.
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16 minutes ago, javeajag said:
The one thing we can all do is support the club so this is now £1300 short of £50k let’s push it over that line
Cheers
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Just now, Yellow & Redneck said:
I'll be going to away games next season. We would have voted QoS down if the situation was reversed. No point in moral grandstanding. Unfair, yes. But ultimately we found ourselves in L1 as we were the worst side in the Championship. I look forward to some of the trips next season, and hopefully to some big wins.
See you there!
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