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  2. vs. Morton

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    16 hours ago, partickthedog said:

    Cut back dummied by Miller

    Read this when I got up and was astounded. Watched the cinema verite style Jagzone highlights and was pleased to see that my character assessment of Kenny Miller, made from Australia, was correct and that he doesn’t do dummying. Not sure who is was, but it certainly wasn’t our favourite octogenarian. 

    A massive three points. Lucky to get away with a few at the end, great save by Fox at the death, but that has to be one of the softest penalties I’ve ever seen given. Outrageous. 

    Is Big Tam the fox in the box we’ve been looking for? A clinical finish and great to see his reaction. Well done to the players, our sainted Ian and all who attended. 
     

    Happy New Year to all Jags from this envious exile.  (Don’t tell anyone I’m envious of a trip to Cappielow, they’ll  have me sectioned) 

  5. Jacqui Low

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    On 11/25/2019 at 2:58 AM, Jordanhill Jag said:

    I 100% agree-  but we dont have a Vote on the Model  ? 

    I’m sure TFE would welcome a man of your obvious expertise and passion for Thistle. You’ve also obviously got a lot of free time On your hands, so maybe you should spend less time slagging them off and get involved. 
     

    just a thought.  

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  8. New Owner

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    Just wondering, as I can’t be bothered reading all the previous pages and it’s hard to get information about this as a nomad, if anyone here has any strong thoughts about the relative merits of the consortium or tfe?

    Hopefully  most posters just want the best for Thistle and would be happy with either outcome, trusting in the current custodians to make an informed decision. 

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  10. New Owner

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    4 hours ago, sandy said:

    Nobody is sure if either potential bid is going to help or hinder the Club. That’s the reality. 

    Whose motivations would you trust more though? Let’s say both groups, if in control, bugger the club up, who would you rather be in charge at that point? Lifelong supporters who live in or near the community or investors who live in another country? Maybe we should ask Bury fans that question. 
     

     

  12. New Owner

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    1 hour ago, 1876 said:

    Why dont Thistle For Ever organise a meeting with the fans and put their proposals to the supporters .

    Guess you could say the same about the other lot too. But haven’t.

    Once again, actual, live Thistle supporters being held to far higher standards than venture capitalists from another country. 

  13. New Owner

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    Posted · Edited by madcapmilkdrinker
    Fat thumbs

    Do you stand to benefit in any way if the consortiums bid is accepted JJ? Pardon the question, but you don’t behave like a disinterested party in this conversation.

    I’m just a nomad who has pledged my support TFE and believe in their long term goals of making Thistle a true community club.   

    I do note with interest you failed to answer my question about why TFE, who even you’d have to admit are Thistle fans, being held to different standards of accountability than the group no-one knows little about and even less about their motivations. 

  14. New Owner

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    Why are actual, real life Thistle fans being held to a far higher standard of expected communication, governance and vision than  some bunch of secretive, shambolic venture capitalists? Seems weird to me but maybe some supporters have their nose out of joint that they weren't ballsy enough to devote the time and energy to this that TFE have already demonstrated their capacity for. I've pledged my ongoing support to them from across land and sea.

    Another voice for fan ownership JJ. A few more and you won't be able to say there isn't a groundswell. 

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  15. New Owner

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    21 minutes ago, delurker said:

    We do have an idea; Nice fans organised a season ticket boycott in protest at them and how they were running the club.

    This runs completely contrary to the detailed vision about the future they've outlined to Thistle supporters though. Cough. 

    (waits for JJ to tell me that TFE haven't responded to an insanely convolUted question about whether one of them glaNced at Colin Weir in the street as he walked past them with the oDd capital thrown in for no good reason) 

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  16. New Owner

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    6 hours ago, allyo said:

    Just take a step back though. 

    We know very little about the TfE proposals, but they only emerged yesterday.

    We know very little about the New City proposal, and they emerged in June.

    One group is local and is obviously only interested in Partick Thistle.

    One group is international and we don't have any understanding of why they've chosen us.

    One group is funded by a benefactor who has previously shown that he's not looking for money back.

    One group is focussed on shareholder profit.

    One group has no prior experience, as far as we know, of running a football club.

    One group has prior experience, and the verdict on its performance is fairly mixed.

    It's all full of uncertainty. I can fully understand why people would be cautious either way.

    Are you able to explain why you are so suspicious of one group, and yet have been nothing but positive about the other?

     

    Out of likes but this post nails it. Neither proposal is foolproof but at least we can be sure that TFE’s motivations are more in keeping with most Thistle supporters. Especially given that we have zero insight into the consortiums plans/ motivations.

    The best thing about a fan takeover is that, should this situation ever arise again, the new shareholders will have to be a lot more responsive to stakeholders than the current mob have been when confronted with a similar set of circumstances. 

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  17. New Owner

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    5 hours ago, Pinhead said:

    Who is backing the trust financially should Mr Weir not be around? Do we have any financial backers as in there comes some disaster and we need to stump up £100k right away, and financial disasters do happen no matter how well a business is run!

    The Firhill Feminists Fund are sitting on a pile, given our enlightened attitudes to gender issues they’re sure to stump up. 

  19. New Owner

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    Posted

    On 6/27/2019 at 3:42 AM, Lenziejag said:

    Just picking up on one point in your post. What’s the difference between having some players from Barnsley compared to loan players from a number of other clubs. I think we had about 5 in the squad after January ?

     

    I guess having to negotiate with five different clubs and players that Thistle would be a good place to develop is better than having a job lot foisted on you by your big boys team. 

  20. New Owner

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    So many agendas on this thread. It takes a fair bit to be dull to the other side of the world but a few posters, you know who you are, craven acceptance of either side of this particular argument does nothing to prosecute the case either for or against this development.

    My two cents worth from Australia. If you can, fight, however you can, to make sure that any new owners have a vision that includes an independent Thistle being able to have success on their terms, through our own hard work. Winning things because some investment firm ploughs a stack of money in would be meaningless. Top 6 was an achievement we could all be proud of, an achievement that every fan played a tiny part in through their financial support of the club. Having six young Barnsley, our parent company's other team,  stars in the team and being promoted, would be fools gold, fun but irrelevant. 

    The trust's silence on this matter is staggering, they should be front and centre of any conversation and communication. That they're not is a flat out disgrace. 

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