Springburnjag
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I’ve never heard of Paul Goodwin but I have heard of Fred Goodwin , Mike Ashley and Philip Greene and Paul Conway is exactly the same type....
fan ownership will only work if people give it a chance and my suspicions are that certain people are trying to undermine it from the start .....you can see that from the relentless questions and speculation that they never subjected the consortium to.....disgraceful
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10 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
You have evidence that Paul Conway broke Company Law ?
Conway Goodwin Greene Ashley .....explain the difference and why they are preferable to thistle fans
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7 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
The largest fund in the World is Blackrock - most Pension Companies Invest in it
Black Rock is not a fund it’s an investment management company they are not the same thing and their comparison to Conway is nil
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2 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
Being a Venture capitalists hardly makes you a "Scumbag" most Pension Funds are invested in Venture capitalists Funds - are they all Scumbags - would you be happy for your Pension never to grow by earning interest ?
Yes it does .....actually few pension funds invest in venture capitalist funds they invest in equities , bonds and property mainly not speculative outfits like venture capitalists .....but at least we know you think Philip Greene or Fred Goodwin would be a better owner of the club than us
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1 minute ago, Third Lanark said:
Morality and ethical standards? The consortium were going to fleece this club, sell any decent players and pocket the money themselves, like a pack of vultures. That’s about as amoral and unethical as you can get, yet you would have happily let Conway plunder the club for his own financial gain
Exactly ....I struggle to believe any thistle fan could ever want these guys anywhere near us
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1 minute ago, Norgethistle said:
You were proposing the board of directors operating out with company law
Show me where I said that
I was explaining that they do ....like ....mike Ashley , Philip Greene , Fred Goodwin you know the Paul Conway types you wanted to own the club
still haven’t explained your evidence for Paul conways professionalism......
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Just now, Norgethistle said:
I supported the consortium over TFE as I believed it would be ran more professionally.
With TFE taking over the club I’m willing to support the initiative, but not at the disregard of any morality of ethical standards that this club and its fans stand for.
What you are proposing is ethically, morally and criminally wrong.
Ok explain what I’m proposing.... which is a fan owned club operating legally morally and ethically in the best interests of the fans and the community ....is wrong ?
by the way Paul Conway and professional ?! Explain that one
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1 minute ago, allyo said:
I never fancied them but I don't have a lot to go on and I couldn't really say what they stand for.
But yeah, glad they are out of the picture
They stand for making money full stop end of
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4 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
To be fair a lot of the Stirling fans say the same about “Our” Paul
Who is Paul? That’s the second time you have said that ? Interesting deflection from the point ......you supported the consortium but didn’t want to come out openly and say so and now your having a go at fans trying to do their best for the club .....can you at least be honest
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2 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
I’ve never met Paul let alone being able to call him a mate, though I’ve never heard he operates illegally
Have you actually looked into the record if Paul Conway in business ?
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Just now, Norgethistle said:
I’ve never met Paul let alone being able to call him a mate, though I’ve never heard he operates illegally
You spent more time on the new owner thread questioning thistle fans trying to wrest control of the club from the consortium than you did questioning Paul Conway who is an absolute charlatan .....
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10 minutes ago, allyo said:
Who do you mean by that? The big consortium?
Of course ! Dreadful people
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3 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
Are you saying Paul Conways consortium operate illegally? Or the new owners do?
You've completely lost me know
Really ? Guess what I think of your mate Paul Conway .....
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Just now, allyo said:
Springburnjag, I haven't disagreed with much that you've said. It's just pretty much been obvious facts. People lie, people cheat, been true since the dawn of time (ok not strictly astronomically true, but anyway).
But I've lost track of the point in arguing it, because we can all agree it's not the way anyone wants Thistle to go.
Of course we can !
so you explain that banks broke laws and their own policies and people say ah ! So you agree with that ....no I’m trying to explain how the world works that doesn’t mean I agree with how it works
which is why I never got a thistle fan supporting the club being bought by guys who are literally are against everything this club stands for !
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3 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said:
I think your moral compass is showing you the wrong direction.
In trying to explain the world you do not have to accept it .....as Marx said philosophers have interpreted the world the point is to change it
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12 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said:
Your comments have made it pretty clear that you are blase about companies law being broken, because everybody breaks a law. Your moral compass is way off whack. Shameful.
Nope ..., just trying to explain how things actually work .... how do you think the financial crisis happened everybody was playing by the rules ? I have a moral compass you just gave insults
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1 minute ago, Garscube Road End said:
I have sped a car, but that is entirely different from intentionally breaking the law within a company. And your point is totally irrelevant. Total deflection.
No my point is millions of people have broken the law eg speeding or parking and knew what they were doing ... to deny that is literally trumpian ...
your deflecting .... badly
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3 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said:
Have I ever been what?
Never fone anything wrong ? No speeding ?
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Just now, Garscube Road End said:
Just let's hope that Springburnjag or any of his ilk get involved with the running of Thistle. The club would be corruptly run, breaking laws, getting caught, getting prosecuted and killing the club. Worse moral standards than that of a certain club south of the Clyde.
Idiot .... if I ran the club it would always operate legally and morally
have you ever been ....,
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9 minutes ago, Firhillista said:
It's perfectly reasonable to criticise the setting up of fan ownership of the club, but this is just being critical for the sake of it.
That’s him all over ..., negative all the time
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2 minutes ago, sandy said:
I’ve stayed out of this debate so far as I don’t understand Company Law.
But to suggest that a Club like ours should be happy breaking the law is plain silly. We are Thistle, something must differentiate us from other less scrupulous clubs.
Our standards should be higher. We have shown over the years a resistance to bigotry and those that might want to suppress diversity (eg LGBT, amputee football, embracing refugees).
Our ethics need to be strong & clear. That is the Club I love and follow.
I never suggested that to be clear and I hope we never would
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5 minutes ago, Norgethistle said:
Never deliberately
Yes they do ... don’t be ridiculous !
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2 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
Right end of conversation - your arguing its ok for the Club to break rules
Most people get Parket Tickets or Speeding Fines due to lack of concentration - errors - etc they dont deliberately set out to ignore the Law
No ... my point is people who know the law break it all the time ... you have
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Just now, Jordanhill Jag said:
Yes Directors do go to Jail over H&S
Name 3 .... it’s very very very rare
poor point
Jacqui Low
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I’m not sure what that means but I don’t want Fred Goodwin types near my club some apparently do