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G13 jag

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  1. As part of a recent survey from TJF, and in light of the recent investment/share purchase, I noted I’d never had an opportunity to buy shares/invest in the club.  I suggested we get 100/200 fans paying £200/100 pm for a year.  This could mean the group are given shares.  I’m not sure how it would work regulatory wise. But it continues with the fan ownership, and fans get something tangible in return. And spreading the outlay makes it accessible to more fans. Is there any support for this?

  2. 4 hours ago, scotty said:

    Would be interesting to find out what away fans think of Firhill as an awayday.

    Away fans can help to generate a great atmosphere.  For location alone, visiting Firhill should be the best experience in all of Scotland.  I believe Germany try harder to encourage away fans as they realise how important they are to a match experience.  I’m aware we invite away fans to the Aitken suit, but it’d be good to see an away day feature in the official site - good pubs pre and post match etc

  3. 53 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:

    Did they not all resign in a big huff after fan protests?

    Not all of them resigned.  We still had Smilie and Gerry as CEO.  Both out of the door weeks after TJF committed funds after the financial loss was announced.  Both were implicit with the shares fiasco, yet it seems from the outside they were still able to decide crucial club decisions whilst leading an intern board.

  4. 31 minutes ago, buchanio said:

    We missed the boat with the bing last time in premiership it we did not own it then so hypothetical. The best hope commercially is to maximise old firm and hearts dollar like clubs like Motherwell and give them a decent allocation that does not piss everyone off. This is not attractive to me personally but brings in cash and we don’t sink or swim on these results anyway. Converting the bing into a safe standing lightweight stand would take 2000+. We would need a sustained period in top flight to cover it however. And to add a decent digital screen not that stupid scoreboard that’s the most pointless addition to the ground in modern times.

    The best way to ensure sustainability for thistle is to increase our own fan base.  I like the way St Mirren have restricted the OF numbers, and this has not only encouraged more of their own fans to go to those games, but it has helped with results.  
    we are seeing the results of the kids go free initiative, and the work jags for good do will hopefully ensure we have new fans coming to games.  

  5. 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said:

    Where does this leave Gerry Britton?

    for all the gloom around the club since last week’s defeat, we now have our club.   This is massive and I believe would not have happened without the fans, TJF or the boycott of the Kelty game.  
    the young team have shown that the fans do have a voice.  
    this is massive 

  6. 9 hours ago, Big Col said:

    Have you seen the way the teams played since the turn of the year, seen the results, heard the jeers from the crowd or noticed the falling attendances?

    Your reference to attendances made me look.  We had 3600 v Morton, helped by a large away support.  Crowds dropped v Hamilton and cove.  But I doubt that was due to the victory v Morton.

    I can not understand how an intern board can make such a decision.  We’re still in with a shout of the league mainly due to the fact no one team can pull away from the rest.  We’ve played some awful football, mostly due to lack of depth in the squad, but also some of the best football seen at Firhill in a decade.

    we have no funds to bring in a replacement Managenent team.

    we are in the midst of a titanic fight for fan ownership, which has only been a struggle due to the behaviour of the previous board.

    yet, a decision was made to remove an experienced team. I’ve thought about why this decision was made, even allowing the possibility that experienced players may have made noises, but this was dispelled with Doolan’s interview.  I can only see 2 people who started this move - CEO and the chair, both involved in the shares issue.

    my conclusion?  I’m really struggling.  Malicious?

     

  7. 9 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said:

    I'm curious as to who you think should have been appointed as Directors in December if not people chosen by the majority shareholder?

    There was no functioning fan ownership model in early December 2022. There was no mechanism in place for the fans to exert democratic control over the PTFC Trust. They did not even have a contact list of their existing beneficiaries. Who were they supposed to appoint, exactly, and who were they supposed to reach out to, when 7 of the 8 board members had just stormed off in a petulant huff over a fan protest and some awkward questions about the annual accounts they'd just signed off?

    This interim board, as was explained at the outset, was specifically assembled to provide breathing space up to the end of the season to allow essential business decisions (footballing and financial) to continue to be taken. This was an inescapable arrangement while the ownership situation was worked on by the Trust's Short-Life Working Group.

    The Working Group was, let's not forget, a broad cross-section of fans which met in their spare time, between Christmas and New Year, to develop proposals. Those proposals have had to be considered and fed-back on by the Trust, and the fans were given an update to that effect less than a month ago, indicating that the next major staging post would be mid-February.

     

     

    A fresh team without anyone from the previous board.  The BoD did everything they could to stop a proper fan ownership.  They refused to allow due diligence.  Initially they played down the fan protest, and after the realisation they were probably short of £15k in takings, did we see action.  Money talks, for people whose main interest is money.

    we have also kept with the ceo, again, someone who does not have clean hands involving the fan ownership.  And after allowing the pitch to be shared with QP, even at the time saying it would not impact on the playing surface, probably lost us a chance of a title challenge in 21/22, and probably money due to the resurface work.  And made watching football a chore.

    Between tJF and jags for good, we see people making a big difference. There are many more thistle minded people out there capable of taking a  seat at the board.

     

    My issues with the decision to remove the management team are more to do with the way I want to see thistle run.  I don’t want the present board.  I certainly don’t want them making such drastic decisions.  I’ll repeat myself here.  The proposal must have come from the ceo, to the chair.  The chair was partly responsible for nominating the ptfc trustees.  We now have 2 of them on the board.

    Despite what we constantly hear from people who want to profit from our sport, Football is not a results business.  If it were, fans would be changing clubs all the time.  The management team have been treated in a way similar to outfits like P&O.

    there were alternatives to the current set up.  We had them.  We have the power to change the club through the money we spend.  The club needs the fans, the fans need the club.  Our club is the fans.

    We are not a Newcastle or Man U, where the amount of money involved dwarfs the income from fans.  We do not generate enough money that a crowd without 1000 can be ignored.

    Yet we allowed the chair, ceo and 2 other board members to sit round our table making decisions.  

     

     

  8. 22 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

    Doesnt detract from the fact that a point off a play off spot with a third of the Season to go is deemed a sackable offence and that replacement with someone with zero experience is deemed a better option 

    As Ive said we miss out on a Play Off Spot -the Board Resigns 

    The present board should not be in place.  I’m repeating myself - but the ceo was involved with the board and ptfc trust, the chair was involved with everything, the 2 ptfc trust board members were there because of the previous board.  Why have us fans allowed this to continue?  We had them .  We should have demanded the removal of the entire berated.  This present board have no right to make these decisions 

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  9. 3 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:

    I didn’t make myself clear,  I’m more interested in the future of the club rather than weekend events.  
    yes, we have a new board, yes, tjf have nominated a board member.  But this is still only 25% representation.  And the same ceo.  
    this does not feel like fan ownership.  And I’m not asking for fan run, but I do not think there is much difference between the current set up and the one we thought we’d ousted.  

  10. 5 minutes ago, elevenone said:

    Sounds like the board are getting jittery again similar to the post Kelty cup game.  A nothing statement.  I’m repeating myself, but the club is being run by the same CEO, the chair was involved in the previous board, both were aware of the financial situation at the club.  Yet they are able to make influence and lead the “new” board.  
    I’d like to hear from TJF, whom I pay monthly subscriptions to.  I’m aware they be were not involved in any decision making, which I think is wrong.  

  11. 56 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

    He doesn't have a Vote - a CEO of a Football Club will advise - The Board make the decisions 

    No vote, but a lot of input.  I’m unsure if the ptfc trust guys on the board have experience at this level, nor about the jfg nominee.  What we do know is Smilie has experience, as does Britton.  And both of them were involved with the share fiasco.  Yet they remain, shaping major changes in our club.  I am not happy that they can influence the future of our club when their hands are so dirty.

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  12. I was hoping our new board would do things differently, but the chair was on the last board and I believe may have been involved in the initial share fiasco. TJF certainly were not involved.

     Although we are 9 points behind dundee, we have to play them twice. This year’s league winners will be champions on possibly the lowest points ever.  Everything still to play for. When a full team was picked, we’ve played some of our best football since 2012/13.  I’d have kept the manager.

    yesterday, the team and fans were class and as one.  Even that crowd we played against showed some class. Only thistle could turn a positive day into a situation where the board are classless.  
    Whatever your thoughts on the merits of our management team, this is no way to treat people.  Let that sink in when you think how they’ve treated the fans.  We still don’t have fan ownership.  We should have demanded a new board.

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  13. Have to say if the article is correct and we only have a 10% sell on clause thats poor. We were led to believe the fee was low because of an substantial sell on clause.

     

    He was far better than some of the players been banded about fot millions in our league. Undersold.

    If true, we will net close to £1m for the player between sell on and initial fee. I do not think anyone would think this is underselling. It is also the first time we have sold a player after they have developed playing in the first team. Jack Hendry was sold after a couple of games. It will start to attract clubs to us, and hopefully we can emulate Hamilton. They seem to get good prices for their players, which I think is partly due to the reputation they have for developing players. I agree is looks like we undersold a player if he is worth £6m 6 months after selling him, but the club gained experience with this too. The next sale we make may be with more, but I do not think we will ever get £6m for a player. They need to be playing in the madness of English football before they are valued so highly. Virgil Van Dyke is a similar situation.

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    The Warriers probably don’t need it as I think Scotstoun is full each game

    But Warriors fans could get a discount at Firhill. It is sold out on a number of occasions but it could be a benefit for their season ticket holders. And may be used by them to sell more season tickets.

  15. I would like to see a similar arrangement in place between Thistle and Glasgow Warriors. I believe we’ve lost a lot of fans to the warriors since they moved to Scotstoun, probably more your occasion fan than season ticket buyer. But there are very few times both clubs play on the same day.

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