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18 minutes ago, Auld Jag said:
Not rumour or hear say but fact.If you look at our results from the season just finished they got worse when the injured players returned.Also the 2 play off games which we lost.Archibald has to prove he can build a team to at least challenge for promotion next season,imo not just for Thistles sake but his own as I would think his reputation took a big dive when we went down.
So you don't think injuries had any impact at all on our season?
And if we'd had an injury free season with a full squad competing for places, results would have been just the same?
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1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said:
Or it could just be that Archie was clueless who to sign, signed a lot of dross, had no game management or tactical awareness, repeatedly refused to learn lessons, and as a result sleep-walked us into the Championship.
Yes. Definently that sweeping generalisation.
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2 hours ago, MonehJags said:
Archie re-signed players who were never fit. Fraser, Muzzy and Banzo. When you talk about injuries, these casualties were an ever present in the long term category. We could have even brought in 1 class player who could have made a difference for the three wasted wages.
The best of it was, when Fraser did return from injury, after giving him a six month extension, farmed him out to Morton.
So when it comes to the injury excuse, that lies with Archie
3 long term injuries. So no other injuries are allowed to be considered when discussing the impact of injuries on results?
You guys crack me up
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1 hour ago, javeajag said:
None
Pish.
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4 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said:
Thistle are far too nice.
I always thought Warren and the other guy Caley had(now at Ross) whose name escapes me were thugs but we could’ve done with them. I would take Warren if he’s still fit enough. He wouldn’t have rolled over like the others at Livvy.
Ross Draper.
Spoke to a county fan after the 2nd leg. Walking down Garscube Road. Said Draper was absolutly terrible. The rumour in Dingwall was, they paid 100k for him to help Caley out, who were in dire financial trouble.
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23 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:
Dumbuya (12 games in two years)!!!, Nitriansky, Storey, Pogba, Azeez,.
If I was being really nasty, which I'm not, Woods could be added to that list.
So nothing to do with the revelations in Stuart's post as you originally suggested.
In fact it reads like you were actually just using Stuart's post to have a dig at the manager.
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8 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:
I said it was up for debate. I didn't link the two together - you did.
Ok, I'll continue pulling teeth.
What, in your opinion, demonstrated Archie's recruitment policy was brutally flawed?
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1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said:
Stuart Adam's post is interesting on a number of fronts.
If any of it is halfway true - and for the purposes of debate let's assume it is - then it's an admission by Archie that he wasn't in control of certain elements in that dressing room and that his recruitment policy was brutally flawed.
Can you clarify how Osman disrupting tje dressing room demonstrates Archie's recruitment policy is brutally flawed.
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Over the moon with that list. Don't shed a tear for a single one if them leaving.
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Is there more to discuss after todays statement?
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Close the thread.
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1 minute ago, macaroon said:
I was all for giving Archie this season to see if we could retain a place in the top league but it's not worked and like some relationships they run their course. That said, it's a bit unseemly to be banding about names while the guy is still in the job.
The Board surely have to take account the feelings of the fans. From the various threads It does seem like the consensus ( between 2/3 and 3/4?) of posters want a change in management. Will the Board be reading these posts and will that influence their decision? Would it be an idea to have a poll with a vote along the lines of...…..The Board should...
1 Look now to recruit a new management team
2 Give Archie a few months and then review the situation
3 Give Archie a season
I don't want to sound disrespectful, but are you being serious?
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29 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Correct
we will have less income and therefore less to spend .... meaning fewer players paid less
Let's hope so. To continue to pay Premiership wages would be financial suicide.
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12 hours ago, Garscube Road End said:
No surprise that you hate opinions that don't match yours. Lol
In fairness you suggested playing Lawless in central midfield and Barton on the left.
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2 hours ago, Garscube Road End said:
I' go 4-4-2.
Cerny
McGinn Keown Cargill Penrice
Elliott McCarthy Lawless Barton
Doolan Storey
That's probably the most ridiculous line up posted on here. Good work.
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I've not denied their income will drop. But you have repeatedly inferred that both their playing budget and income will drop 45%. All I asked for was proof of numbers because it seems unlikely that that would be the case.
There seems to be a lot of assumptions in your posts on this thread.
If you genuinely have watched better football than the quick passing free flowing football we played winning the second tier, in the last 5 years id love to know when. The first season up we tried to emulate it but the players we had couldn't do it against bigger stronger opposition. They tried don't get me wrong. Since that first season. Maybe into the second, It's been tough to watch.
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3 minutes ago, javeajag said:
Interesting thoughts on budgeting.....
You set your budget on what you can afford ...reducing your budget by 45% isn’t a lifestyle choice...
it’s simply there is 45% less revenue coming into the club from the spfl , tv, tickets, sponsors etc etc so we go from a annual revenue of just over £4m spending around £2m on the playing squad to around an annual revenue of around £2m and £1m on the squad .....that reduces the number of players we have and the relative quality and a reduction in admin staff etc
this is the realityof nit getting the next two games right
Not everyone sets their budget to what they can afford. some run at a loss.
Admittedly I've not read the article, but just because their playing budget has dropped 45% doesn't mean income has dropped 45%. unless you have figures that show they maych?
It doesn't automatically reduce the number of players, Archie runs with a similar size squad regardless of what division we are in.
Quality is sujective, can anyone say the quality of football we have watched in the last 5 years has been better than the football we played winning the championship?
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The mother in laws a St Mirren fan. Watched all our live games and has seen Livi 4 times this season.
Walked into our house this morning to proclaim "im gutted you's are playing Livi, you'd have ripped Dundee United apart. Just pray they don't take a couple off you on Thursday night, because if they do, you'll never break them down on Sunday. They've got two giants at centre half and nothing gets past them, Lithgow has been one of the best players in the division."
"Aye cheers Liz, on that positive note, i'm away to work"
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Why is a 45% drop in budget a bad thing?
Surely it's all relative and you set your budget to reflect where you want to finish in the league. If county think they can win the league and cut the budget by 45% then surely that's a positive note?
Added to that, how many of this squad do you want to keep on the wage bill if we stay up or go down?
And... If we go down a lot more of the development squad will be able to see first team action, so straight away we will be able to reduce spend, right there.
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1 hour ago, javeajag said:
Had to phone to get tickets as the online system doesn’t work on iPad or iPhone on Chrome or Safari .....useless
Its also not a secure site.
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1 hour ago, watties wallies said:
on jagzone pt
after the dundee game archie said that he saw doolan more as an impact player, doolan disagreed said he was fit and ready to play and in fact was disappointed that he was not in the starting eleven
put it this way if you were the manager of an opposing team who would prefer to have warming the bench for the jags doolan sammon or storey
As I've said, hadn't seen that anywhere, last I heard he was playing through the pain barrier and had delayed his Ligament Opp until the close season.
Weird that such a serious injury has disappeared. But then again, nothing more weirder than Firhill, when it comes to injuries.
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29 minutes ago, watties wallies said:
doolan has said on at least three separate occasions since the new year that his injury has completly cleared and that he is fully fit
Has he? Not seen that anywhere.
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19 hours ago, The Jukebox Rebel said:
Should be the first name on the teamsheet every time - don't give me no over-thought bollox about physicality, out balls or age.
Doolan was putting himself up (and scoring) against hard bruisers in the Juniors when he still a school boy, and he's in peak condition right here, right now.
Great way to attract a striker to the Club. Hi would you like to sign for Thistle? No, you'll be on the bench every week.
Regards your other point. Hes not in peak condition. He's carrying a knee ligament injury and has delayed the operation til the end of the season.
Playing Squad Update
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So injuries impacted our season. At least we're in agreement