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'Doing this for Dundee United and for Scottish football. Respect'
Hard drive check required.
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36 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:
I find these comments utterly repellent
While I don't always agree 100% with them, you usually mange to get your arguments across eloquently and with some factual background. However, comparing the boardrooms of Thistle and Hearts to suicide bombers is unbecoming of you and such comments should have no place on this forum.
A ridiculous comparison with poor timing to say the least.
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6 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
No. I am saying that if we had gone to arbitration straight away, and thus not imposed court costs on the SPFL and other clubs, and if we had only asked for modest and realistic compensation, instead of jointly demanding £10 million, other clubs would have had more sympathy for our position.
*sigh*
Unless you've got anything to back that up that's total conjecture dressed up as fact.
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12 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
I’m afraid I think the analogy, in terms of the sentiments expressed on here, is an apt one. It’s a “you’ve been shit to us so we’re going to destroy everything around us if we don’t get our way and we don’t care what collateral damage we cause”.
Looking forward to the big screen adaptation of these events. Based on this blurb certainly sounds like a real action packed cliff hanger. In cinemas next year.
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13 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
Actually I was being unfair. Hearts are the suicide bomber, demanding not to be relegated despite being shite and waving an £8 million financial bomb vest because the big boys kicked them in the nuts
Enjoyed reading your posts but that's a pretty tasteless analogy.
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Just now, allyo said:
I'm not sure how these clubs voted on 14-10-10-10. Generally I'd have a lot of sympathy, I think they deserve their promotions. But if they willingly voted to relegate when they had a chance not to then I have no sympathy at all.
All 3 said 'No'. The brass neck from RRFC is particularly astonishing. Won a watch when 1 point ahead then pulled the ladder up.
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Training top arrived today and it is smart. Very nice indeed. A supplier that actually grasps what the PTFC colours are.
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8 hours ago, QXBoy said:
Dear Mr. Doncaster, please explain what is meant by "reasonable endeavours". Not exactly rocket science - five teams have 4 home/5 away, the other five have the reverse.
I'm struggling to understand how ( incompetence aside ) any team needs to play anything other than 5/4 either way.
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45 minutes ago, thru thin and thin said:
Only if we have ' conflict of interest ' applying to decision makers on the board i.e.: no directors of football clubs allowed to make decisions.
An excellent point and more than enough reason to bin it. I'm sure the Div 2 board members would love to scrap the pyramid play offs ad infinitum.
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5 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
These Club representatives are business-people. Directors of Limited Companies. This isn't your gran getting blindsided by a cold call from Microsoft offering to fix her Windows, or Jordan Belfort flogging her penny stocks.
What like Les Gray of Hamilton?
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/1407776-hamilton-accies-fraud-how-finances-were-wrecked-by-lie
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Falkirk's 50/50 is also a £1 entry and their last two prizes were around £2k - impressive.
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51 minutes ago, Pinhead said:
Aye we will probably get relegated
Already looking forward to the derby match v. Maryhill season 2021/22.
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1 hour ago, Woodstock Jag said:
There isn’t one.
Our only realistic course of action now is to
(1) hope to persuade enough other teams in League One (or if necessary Leagues One and Two) to commit to start in October or (2) failing that as above but for January or (3) failing that to convince 31 other clubs in the next few weeks to back an expanded Scottish Championship and/or Premiership.
If we cant do any of these things we need to minimise the club’s overheads, maximise its dormant revenue, and hope it still exists in 2021.
Will be interested in the mechanics of an amalgamated L1/L2 around promotion / relegation. The next shambles on the horizon.
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2 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said:
Under the Articles of Association of the SPFL, certain decisions have to be taken by way of an "ordinary resolution". An ordinary resolution is only adopted if all three of the following conditions are met:
- at least 75% of the Premiership clubs support it (9 of 12)
- at least 75% of the Championship clubs support it (8 of 10)
- at least 75% of the teams in Leagues One and Two support it (15 of 20)
It therefore follows that if a decision requiring an ordinary resolution is opposed by any of:
- four or more Premiership clubs
- three or more Championship clubs
- six or more League One and Two clubs
Then the proposal fails. It doesn't matter how many or how few Clubs "abstain" on the proposal: it cannot pass.
Other decisions can only be taken by way of a qualified resolution. For example, a qualified resolution is needed for certain types of league reconstruction (including those that affect the total number of teams in the SPFL pyramid and those that involve a change to the financial distribution of prize-money). A qualified resolution is only adopted if:
- at least 90% of the Premiership clubs support it (11 of 12)
- at least 75% of the Premiership and Championship clubs support it (17 of 22)
- at least 75% of the clubs in all four divisions support it (32 of 42)
This means that if any of the following happens for a qualified resolution:
- two or more Premiership clubs oppose a proposal
- six or more Premiership and Championship clubs oppose a proposal
- eleven or more SPFL clubs oppose a proposal
Then the proposal therefore cannot pass. As before, it does not matter how many or how few clubs abstained: if any of these categories have sufficient levels of opposition, the proposal cannot be adopted.
Abstentions are irrelevant. They are merely "not Yes (yet)".
Very good post. Out of interest do you know where the situation in that one of the leagues can unilaterally change the number of games in a season is covered in the rule book? ( and what else they can change in this fashion )
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Polo top is quite snazzy but my size out of stock already.
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1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said:
Some money worries for Dundee:
Hopefully Admin Mk3 by the end of the year finishes them off this time.
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I spotted a few posts today jokingly suggesting Thistle could play in The National League ( North ) once expelled. Would certainly be some grand trips. This year's league was won by Kings Lynn - a trip to Glasgow would have been easier for a lot of sides in the league than the trek to Norfolk.
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17 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:
I think it’s telling that we wouldn’t pursue this case with our own money.
My first thought as well.
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1 hour ago, Winter of '63 said:
Motherwell escaped relegation in 2003 because of the Stadium Regulations - the following year the rules were changed after the event, and Motherwell voted to relegate us.
Biggest cheats in the game. How many times have they weaseled their way out of relegation? Unpunished administration? That Craigan testimonial match turned my stomach.
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10 hours ago, Big Col said:
And throughout this entire debacle the SFA sit back and do or say absolutely nothing.
The entire hierarchy of Scottish football is not fit for purpose.
To be fair Maxwell was always useless and promoted way beyond his capability.
As for the SPFA - the protectors of the people who actually earn their living from the game and not a peep.
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20 minutes ago, The Legend Blows said:
Why is there a big opposition to a minor league setup change.
Because the Premiership split doesn't really work when it's after two rounds. Rather than hanging on to a proposal that was never going to work Thistle should have driven a 12 team Championship idea that as there is unlikely to be any Div 1 / Div 2 nobody could reasonably have argued against.
Instead we got the fantasy world of statements appealing to other clubs good nature. Naive nonsense.
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Not sure why Thistle didn't push for a 12 team Championship which seems a no brainer but hey ho.
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4 hours ago, Lenziejag said:
I have been wondering for a while - has it always been the case that each division can decide when to start and how many games to play in any particular season ?
If that is the case how could all the other clubs have decided that the championship finished early ?
Very good point. Answer no doubt the standard 'but the clubs are the SPFL' blah whenever a tough question is posed.
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On 6/11/2020 at 9:19 PM, sandy said:
Lets go down to Tier 3 and rise again; C’mon the Jags
Everybody's welcome to their opinion - but you do realise that the majority of the glorified social clubs which make up that league appear to be happy not to play football leaving PTFC nowhere to play? Just checking.
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