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3 minutes ago, milhouse said:
I don't think there is evidence for this currently. Objectively he improved results after taking over last season, and the play-off run was impressive of itself despite the eventual outcome. A dreadful result on Saturday, but we are 3rd after a quarter of the season, 9 points from the bottom 2 sides. The usual reason for considering managerial change at PTFC is relegation, or imminent threat of it, which is not currently happening. This time last year we were just embarking on a run of 5 league defeats in a row under Ian McCall which effectively ended our title challenge. Something similar might happen now, of course, but it hasn't yet.
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On 10/22/2023 at 8:32 PM, Garscube Road End 2 said:
It's becoming clear that Dollan is out of his depth as a manager.
I don't think there is evidence for this currently. Objectively he improved results after taking over last season, and the play-off run was impressive of itself despite the eventual outcome. A dreadful result on Saturday, but we are 3rd after a quarter of the season, 9 points from the bottom 2 sides. The usual reason for considering managerial change at PTFC is relegation, or imminent threat of it, which is not currently happening. This time last year we were just embarking on a run of 5 league defeats in a row under Ian McCall which effectively ended our challenge. Something similar might happen now, of course, but it hasn't yet.
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Oh well. Not at this, but Dundee Utd would seem to be well on course to win the league (still unbeaten). Which would reflect playing budgets, of course. We'll just have to move on from this one. Our result v Arbroath at Firhill concerned me more. We'll remain 3rd today, still a very tight league, but top 4 again this season would be completely satisfactory, in my opinion.
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No idea how the managerial contracts work at PTFC - or what the process would be if form tails off completely the rest of the season and we think that we need to appoint a different manager.
As has been mentioned before, in the UK I'm not sure why football clubs never seem to have the model found in other countries/other sports of a more colloborative approach (Moneyball-style) with people tasked with finding and signing players (e.g. McCall), then a coaching team with a head coach (e.g. Doolan +/- Graham, MacDonald).Ā
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26 minutes ago, johnkebab71 said:
There is obviously more to the parting of ways which we will find out in coming days which Iām sure wonāt be as sinister as the statement may readā¦.right call for everyone.
ĀĀ I would think there has been a meeting and they have all decided that this was his last gameā¦try and go out on a high.
Hopefully they find the new man soon.Ā
Wouldn't it be very unusual for everyone to know a manager is leaving but still take charge for a match?
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31 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:
The statement clearly said Doolan till the end of the season and if he does well I presume he will be given it permanentlyĀ
I didn't read it saying Doolan until rest of the season?
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7 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:
one positive is a very good travelling support and an end to this ā Im not going to sit amongst OF Rubbish ā our Fans are going to be brilliant todayĀ
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An end to the "becoming the 4th team in Glasgow" theory as well, despite current league positions. We have a far bigger support than Queens Park.
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1 hour ago, Yellow & Redneck said:
Can't stand Ian McCall in the run up to these kinds of matches. Fans pay close to Ā£25 for a ticket, yet the game "does not matter a jot." Just sums up why our record against the OF is an absolute disgrace.Ā
Alan Archibald demonstrated no interest either when we were in the top flight, happy to discount a minimum of 6 games a season. I actually think the second of his late collapses in the same season to a dreadful Sevco side was the start of his downfall.
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52 minutes ago, stillresigned said:
I honestly canāt see us getting anything against this mob on Sunday. Just to make sure thereās no chance of a shock, the SFA are ensuring that VAR will be used and considering Rangers tend not to have decisions go against them itāll be a shock of ā71 proportions if we were to get a result.
Just imagine the 'injury time' as well if they aren't winning after 90 mins.
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Quite sad really, the attitudes on this thread, but they are probably understandable given our record against the Old Firm over the last 20 years (which is an embarrassment). I appreciate how difficult it would be for Thistle to go to Ibrox and win, but a number of comparable teams have done so in recent years. 1982 was the last time for PTFC, 6 years before I was even born. Should it really be that long for it to happen again? I'm going to keep turning up to find out.
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13 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:
So, let's think this through.
11 v 11 - On the park
0 v 4 - h*n ******** that are officials
0 v 3 - VAR who will certainly be called upon when it isn't going to the Sevco script.
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Big Injury Time is definitely in vogue as well after the World Cup. Expect 10 mins + at the end if they aren't winning.
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3 defeats to Queens Park in a season is enough to spiral anyone into an existential crisis.
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Akinyemi is a good striker but Ayr are otherwise unspectacular. Spent a lot of time surrounding the ref.Ā We were significantly better than our last outing against them.
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10 minutes ago, dibble said:
the players still seem to be behind the gaffer - not like he has lost the dressing room. Ā Ā
Why do you think that? Not being cheeky, just would like to know where you see that from.
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33 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said:
Question: Do people really believe that losing four league games on the trot is a sound reason for a manager to lose his job?
At this level, with the nature of the defeats as they have been, I think on balance yes.
I think lose next week I think he should leave. Draw next week, win Arbroath and Kelty Hearts I think he has survived.
Despite being very experienced, he hasn't been able to manage the team out of this slump.
Going back to 2000, I can't think of any manager who has been sacked too hastily, been treated unfairly by PTFC, or sacked unexpectedly. I don't think now would be an exception to this.
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4 minutes ago, exiledjag said:
And of course this bad run happens to coincide with injuries to 4 of our best and most influential players.
We are not wealthy enough as a club to to have 15-20 players of the standard of the 4 missing players. I agree with you that we should be able to defend a 2 goal lead but this squad has had the confidence knocked out of it and defensively has very littleĀ resilience.
Given that there is no sign of Docherty, Tiffoney, Holt or Graham returningĀ then we must not lose to Arbroath or Hamilton or we will be fighting relegation.
Things not looking good for the immediate future but doubt IMC will be sacked!
Given the board did clearly state this week we had been aiming for promotion, it will be surely be difficult for them to continue as is.
With the current stateĀ of the league table there is still lots of opportunity to be there or thereabouts towards the top by the end of the season. McCall has been completely unable to get us to shut up shop.
I very much hope we win next week, but if we lose I reall think that will be him gone.
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17 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said:
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Archibald isĀ our most successful manager in 4 decades.
Thistle's most successful manager since 1982? Surely your mistaken there.
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31 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:
Was surprised that we lost as heavily as we did v Aberdeen, but expected the loss.
What's happened since then againstĀ our direct competitors has been an implosion.
1-4, 0-4, 2-4, 0-3 in eleven days isn't justifiable, and cannot be possibly hidden behind the loss of Docherty and Holt. There are clearly other issues there.
McCall goes in next Saturday against another manager who is on borrowed time. A maximum of one will survive that game, I reckon.
Perhaps not next Saturday but games at Firhill v bottom of the table Arbroath then Kelty Hearts at the end of November, I think it would be difficult to appease the Thistle support if these go badly.
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1 minute ago, dibble said:
Our title winning team in November 2012 shows how far quality has dropped -and indeed for the division as a whole . Still having lawless and muirhead 10 years later says a lot. Ā Remembering also that this team had to be strengthend over the course of the season to get us over the line
Think we all probably overestimated squad depth this year.
Types of players from that season we miss are Paton, Welsh, and Steven Craig who shared the goals with Doolan.
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8 minutes ago, laukat said:
However all that is separate from the fact that a manager of a professional football club should not be setting up a team to lose 11 goals in 3 league games. No team in this league had the attack to break down a team that defends reasonably well.
Got the key point there for me - given theĀ standard we are up against, there is no way we should be losing goals the way we currently are.
I'm struggling to think of ever seeing a quickerĀ decline from a Thistle teamĀ over such a short space of time.
Hand could be forced to replace the management team by the end of November.
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14 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:
A very narrow minded view. Just for starters it doesnāt take into account the creation of the next generation of Thistle fans and their parents who could be bringing revenue for years to come. What about potential sponsors brought in due to child/relative playing for a junior side ?
The combination of Nesbit, Lindsey and Hendry brought significant income, almost certainly more than the cost of running the program.
I don't think PTFC ever received any sort of transfer fee for Kevin Nisbet but I'm happy to be corrected on this.
Most parents and children will be Old Firm fans, I think the "next generation of fans" is a negligible effect. I think we'd be more likely to be successful signing first team players released from elsewhere who are a bit disgruntled and want to prove themselves.
To me the success and failure of the academy is solely based on whether it benefits the men's first team of PTFC, whether with good players directly from the Academy, or with money from sale of players put directly back to the playing budget. There is little evidence of success of Thistle Weir on this basis.
It's nice having wee kids in red and yellow tops running around on the pitch at Firhill at half time etc., but there's no evidence that it's going to get PTFC in the top flight of Scottish football and help to keep us there. Academies are a luxury not applicable to PTFC.
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The evidence that Thistle Weir Academy teams are a good use of money doesn't stack up. Stuart Bannigan has obviously made lots of appearances for the first team, but actually signed for the club several years before Thistle Weir was ever started. Other than him, there are no Academy players who have made a substantial impact. Players like Liam Lindsay and Kevin Nisbet left and made the club little money.
Colin Weir should have spent his money on first team signings which would have kept us in the Premier League.
It's a nice idea but in an organisation which has to be as financially lean as possible, the Academy doesn't justify the investment. It doesn't work to benefit the men's first team of PTFC, which should always be the major focus.
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7 minutes ago, laukat said:
Please, please and pretty please can we start players in the natural positions. If that means playing an out of form central defender or a central defender that might struggle to do 90 minutes then just do it and adjust later in the game if needed.
Just to be clear Cammy Smith's natural position is in back of the stand as far away from the grassĀ as possible.
Also need to fix Ross Docherty quickly.Ā
We need to fix Kevin Holt quickly
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Made a good effort of it against opposition from league above - don't overreact. Were people expecting an easy game?